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MANY PEOPLE BECAME ATHEISTS AFTER READING THE BIBLE. AND THE WHOLE THING ABOUT "ATHEISTS JUST WANT TO SIN" IS CHRISTIAN BULLSHIT, NOT SOMETHING ATHEISTS ACTUALLY SAY | image tagged in memes,steve harvey | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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5 ups, 2mo,
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Christians can't stand the fact that many people have legitimate intellectual objections to their religion, so they want to pretend intellectual objections don't exist, and try to make it all about feelings and emotions.
4 ups, 2mo,
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Intellectual objections can't exist in religion. Faith requires that intellect be subverted by belief. This is why "believe" and "know" are so often conflated by theists.
2 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
0 ups, 4w
I believe in the big bang and I'm a Christian
1 up, 4w
Every tie you or I thump on one of these apologists, another one pops up. It's a constant game of Whack-A-Mole.
1 up, 1mo,
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Faith and reason go hand in hand.
2 ups, 1mo,
2 replies
Case in point: that's a patently unreasonable statement.

Reason is rooted in critical thinking. Faith is at best indifferent to critical thinking. At worst it is diametrically opposed to critical thinking. Which is fine. Faith is more of a feeling than a thought. The problem is when faith mistakes itself for an intellectual position, when it occupies that niche the way lead occupies the niche of calcium in the bones of people suffering from lead poisoning. In this way faith represents a sort of tragic yet entirely avoidable disease.
0 ups, 4w,
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Why is faith opposed to reason? Faith is when you examine all available information and you see that some conclusions cannot be drawn from your current information. But there is evidence for them and you know they must exist if other conclusions which are provable also exist, so you must take a leap of faith.
2 ups, 4w
If you believe … by faith … in magic trees, talking snakes, miraculous healing of blindness with mud made from spit, that a man could walk on water, that a couple pieces bread and fish could feed 5,000 people, that an ax head could float by prayer, that cellular necrosis is reversible, you have no standing to ever call upon reason.

Period.
0 ups, 4w
Thomas Aquinas
1 up, 4w
There's this one Babylon Bee video (I hate them) where they interview an "ex-Christian" (not actually, but a satire thing) and they just bullied ex-Christians. They would say things like "I left Christianity because I wanted to sin!" or "I hate being controlled!"

Also, Babylon Bee sucks at satire or even being funny. Everything they make is just bullying the liberal atheists or whatever.

It was pretty insulting for people who have had actual religious trauma and who have left because they've realized how stupid it all is. They don't understand how most ex-Christians were pretty active Christians before they turned atheists. I had been in a Christian school (and still am) for my entire life. My parents took me to church as soon as they had me and put me in Sunday school as soon as I was old enough. I went to the same Christian school from K-8th grade and am now at an LCMS high school. After all of that, I finally looked into it and realized how false everything in the religion is. I found out how they indoctrinate kids at a young age and keep them in it forever. Of course, I was going to be Christian when the youth pastor told 5-year-old me that non-Christians go to hell. Also, it's f**ked up how they do that to kids. It's been difficult trying to deconstruct all the lies and threats I've experienced. I am now a happier person since I left.
0 ups, 4w,
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C.S lewis
3 ups, 4w,
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He was an idiot. Full stop.
2 ups, 4w,
2 replies
Indeed he was!
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2 ups, 4w
Perfect.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
So you agree with him?
2 ups, 4w,
1 reply
I agree that c s lewis was an idiot. Full stop.
0 ups, 4w,
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You agree that belief does not prove?
1 up, 4w,
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It doesn't matter whether I agree or not. Proof exists regardless of belief, not because of it.
0 ups, 4w
exactly.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
Oh boy here we go again
3 ups, 4w,
2 replies
He believed that at one time there was a magic tree with fruit that could make people live forever. Let that sink in…
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
I believe a lot of Christians who are unfamiliar with "Mere Christianity" will find this passage beneficial. This is from the chapter, "The Rival Conceptions of God."

If a good God made the world why has it gone wrong? And for many years I simply refused to listen to the Christian answers to this question, because I kept on feeling, "whatever you say, and however clever your arguments are, isn't it much simpler and easier to say that the world was not made by any intelligent power?" Aren't all your arguments simply a complicated attempt to avoid the obvious?" But then that threw me back into another difficulty.

My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such violent reaction against it? A man feels wet when he falls into water, because man is not a water animal: a fish would not feel wet. Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too - for the argument depended on saying that the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my private fancies. Thus in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. Consequently atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.
2 ups, 4w,
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That’s cute. Full of holes, but cute.
Justice — Jephthah murdered (sacrificed) his daughter TO YOUR GOD — and God did nothing to stop him. I am more moral than your god.
That silly, stupid, book you and CS Lewis calls the “Bible“ records that God tempted David to perform a census. In another passage Samuel says Satan tempted David to perform a census (who was it???) 205. Counting anything was “wrong” so your God decided to punish David. He gave him a few choices and David picked the one that killed several thousand of his people. Innocent people.
I can do this for days and days on end. Your God is an imaginary immoral monster who exists only between your ears and in the pages of a book written my 2,000 to 3,000 year old shaman goatherders in the Middle East.
You and CS Lewis can try to do all of the philosophy you want, but at the end of the day you believe in magic trees, talking snakes, and an immoral God who murders people because of what they believe or don’t believe.
0 ups, 4w
One sec
0 ups, 4w,
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This is for the Satan one https://youtu.be/srOSFdjVvuA?si=KjSDrAUzxjx7eb1V
2 ups, 4w,
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What's always left out of these types of videos trying to say "YEAH BUT OTHER PEOPLE GOT THINGS WRONG IN HISTORY TOO!" is simply forgetting that they're talking about a book encouraging us to worship an invisible being and give him 10% of the world's economy.

II Samuel 24:1 says that the Lord incited David to take a census of Israel; I Chronicles 21:1 says that Satan incited David to take a census of Israel. Which do you believe? And if your explanation is that it was a "scribe's error," explain to me why the Almighty Omnipotent Creator of the Universe is powerless to prevent copiers' errors. Also, explain to me how any scribe could be so inept that he accidentally wrote "Satan" instead of "God" (or vice versa). These are the men responsible for keeping the “word of God” pure? And for that matter, why is counting your people a sin? Why did lil’ Davy choose to have a couple thousand men slaughtered by God as punishment for his own sin? This is the guy “after god’s own heart?

Yeah, sounds like it. All the credit and none of the blame. Typical of a "God"

You are claiming that an invisible man in the sky supposedly dictated a set of books/letters/rules to ancient Middle Eastern goat herders, tax collectors, fishermen, and shaman who despite being illiterate shepherds/fishermen wrote in highly educated Greek…

I find it astounding that there are so many people who are uber skeptical of so many things in the world (government, medicine, science), yet they firmly hold onto a belief in a god that hides himself, doesn’t speak to them except through their minds, and supposedly helps them find their car keys but won’t intervene on a child being molested, won’t stop earthquakes/tornados/hurricanes, can’t do anything in his own hometown “because of their unbelief”, can’t do anything against an opposing army “because their chariots were made of iron”, and just overall is no where to be found. This entity, as described in their holy book and described by their priests and proponents, should be everywhere, readily visible, answering prayers constantly.
In essence, they “believe in belief” — not necessarily in their god. There’s a big difference.

When apologists rush in to defend the BuyBULL, what they're really saying is the most powerful being in the universe can’t get his ghost writers to get things straight.

Learn to think for yourself and quit watching little YouTube apologists.
0 ups, 4w
Hello?
0 ups, 4w,
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Ok no we don't give him 10% of the economy, and second God doesn't just puppeteer humans while when they write the Bible so there will be errors, but you'll find there are no contradictions in the main message (also the answer to the david question is satan based on the fact that god got angry afterwards), third there is so much wrong with that paragraph but basically it boils down to he doesn't give physical redemptive its spiritual redemption let's say hypothetically you can be in the best life you can image or in perfect happiness with God for eternity, fourth ots written by humans there will be some minor errors for example, after the titanic sunk there were many differences and contradictions in eyewitness reports (and before you say that this isn't claiming absolute truth eyewitness ARE claiming that their truth is true)
2 ups, 4w
I literally have hundreds of pages of contradictions in a book I'm writing on Why Christianity is False. I find more every time I open the BuyBull. You might try opening your mind a bit. Read David Fitzgerald's Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed At All.

I did the whole Christian thing for over 50 years and then WOKE UP. I was a preacher, a missionary to Central America, a church planter, a Bible Study leader, attended Seminary, graduated from Christian Schools and I made all the same excuses you're making now. I've been there and done that. And I realized it's all, 100% a lie (read Caught in the Pulpit by Daniel Dennett). Took five decades but dude, your attempts are feeble and full of holes. At the end of the day, I understand you're deep need to prove me wrong but you're part of a psyop. All religions are psyops.
Classic signs of a psyop:
Emotional Manipulation (you'll go to hell!!!!!)
Uniform Messaging and Harmonization of Events
False Dichotomies
Authority Overload
Cherry Picked Data
Suppression of Dissent
Not to mention the sheer number of stories in the BuyBull that are almost exact copies of older myths from antiquity.

How many Norse myths, German myths, Celtic myths, Chinese myths, Greek myths, Mayan myths do you believe? None? Really? Oh but all Jewish myths are true ... got it.
0 ups, 4w
Ok no
0 ups, 4w
Quote source http://usminc.org/images/MereChristianitybyCSLewis.pdf
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