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Captain obvious explain the "Hush money" trial to a simpleton

Captain obvious explain the "Hush money" trial to a simpleton | That is NOT what he was charged with; Trump was charged with paying for a prostitute; But Trump payed Stormy $130k to stay quite; That was Cohen and he used his own money; They were working together on the Hush Money deal; Cohen's lawyer said Trump had no clue about the 130k deal; Trump committed a federal crime; Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor; He tried to sway the 2016 election which made it federal; The alleged crime took place in 2017. I don't care, it's still a federal crime; NY doesn't have jurisdiction on federal crimes and now you look like a clown but that's too obvious | image tagged in black background,michael cohen,trump,hush money,felony charge,falsifying records | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
589 views 30 upvotes Made by gearhead76 6 months ago in politics
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5 ups, 6mo
Yes, I'm aware that I spelled Quiet wrong. Unfortunately, I already published the meme.
5 ups, 6mo,
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Upvoted. Excellent use of these meme templates . . . and also totally true.
2 ups, 6mo
Thank you sir...
4 ups, 6mo,
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Insane Schiffty Clownshit | YOU CUTTING IN ON MY TURF? | image tagged in insane schiffty clownshit | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1 up, 2mo
lmao!!
2 ups, 6mo
"Trying to sway the election" is far too vague an accusation, anyway. ALL presidential candidates are *actively* trying to sway an election every time they campaign.
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An initial falsification of records is a misdemeanor, addititional falsification of records in furtherance of the initial falsification is a felony. Taken as a whole, the collection of individual incidents comprises a conglomerate criminal enterprise, elevates the first falsification of records to felony status. Look it up.
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You're funny......... What turned the misdemeanor of the alleged "falsification of business records" wasn't due to additional counts of falsifications... lmao! (There was *only* one alleged falsification)
It was turned into a felony based on the idea that the alleged crime was a FEDERAL crime with the intent to interfere with the election. That's what turned it into a federal crime. case and point. A federal crime requires a federal court to prosecute. The FBI, DOJ and even the FEC didn't want the case because they didn't see any legitimate reason to prosecute. The NY courts technically didn't have jurisdiction on a federal crime.
In part, there was no legitimate case because the alleged "election interference" by "falsifying business records" occurred AFTER the election.
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Okay... in the interest of keeping this concise and on point while still addressing the relevant issues:

34 state-level counts of records fraud -not federal election interference, **records fraud**- resulting in conviction on all charges by a jury of his peers, -to wit: the aforementioned initial instances of misdemeanor criminal act re: falsification of business records followed by multiple counts of misdemeanor criminal acts re: falsification of business records carried out over a period of months in furtherance of the initial instance of misdemeanor criminal act re: falsification of business records thus elevating the case to the status of felony criminal enterprise under New York Penal Law, Section 460.20.

Ergo, it was neither a federal crime at any point nor was election interference included in the list of charges... meaning the meme self-defeats where it characterizes state of NY's pursuit of accountability for **state-level criminal acts** as prosecution of a federal crime, your response to my comment self-defeats immediately at "What turned the misdemeanor of the alleged 'falsification of business records' wasn't due to additional counts of falsifications... ...(There was *only* one alleged falsification)."

Nope, four initial instances of falsification, followed by 30 subsequent instances of falsification in support of the original crime; one should always read the grand jury indictment rather than rely on what biased political pundits are shovelling.

"It was turned into a felony based on the idea that the alleged crime was a FEDERAL crime with the intent to interfere with the election. That's what turned it into a federal crime."

Again, nope, it was never a federal crime; that's a completely erroneous description of the case.

A little useful advice: read the statutes and indictment involved when working with this sort of thing so when you go to meme on it you've got the subject matter by the balls. Here, to easy-peasy it up a bit, see: IND-71543-23 -THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK v. DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant.
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0 ups, 2mo
Thank you for citing a law which disproves your claim -it really saves me some time and I appreciate that.
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If I punch you in the face. That's an assault charge. While you're lying on the ground I decide to continuously slap you in the face.... 33 more times. That's still an assault charge. What you're describing is 34 counts of what essential boils down to .....

1. Legal services paid to his lawyer
2.Checks paid for legal services
3.Ledger entries for legal expenses.

This doesn't increase the severity of the misdemeanor. It just sounds good for the press. and makes those with TDS happy.
In order for those 34 counts (or simply 1 count of falsification) to become a felony. The prosecutors had to prove that Trump intended to commit another crime....

What was that crime? The alleged crime was a violation of NY election Law.

What election law was broken did you ask? The attempt to conspire with His lawyer to hide payments which would otherwise negatively affect his chances of winning in the 2016 election.

That's what made it a Felony charge. And why do I say it's federal? Because the alleged crime violates federal finance laws.

It's not the 34 counts that made it a federal felony charge. It was the alleged federal crime. Without the federal crime, there is no felony charge. THIS IS THE REASON Alvin Bragg HAD to tie it to a federal crime. Otherwise he had no case. Poor Alvin would be left with a silly misdemeanor that's statute of limitation had run out on...lol

Even with Proving ( They didn't prove) Intent to commit conspire and an election tax law violation. There was a massive hole in their case. Even if All was true.... The alleged crime of "conspiring to hide Hush money payments" occurred in 2017. The election was in 2016. Which means Trump was found guilty for committing a crime of Intent... after the fact....lmao!!!
0 ups, 2mo
Except the problem is that your described assault scenario boils down to a single incident committed starting @ minute 1 and the intial punch and extending to minute x of the same hour with all blows being encompassed as particular of a single incident of assault. Not at all the same thing as the repeated incidence of records falsification carried out over a period of months for the purpose of concealing the initial crime- but points for trying to conflate the two.

As for everything below your opening paragraph, it demonstrates you either didn't read the indictment or did and failed to comprehend it.
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    That is NOT what he was charged with; Trump was charged with paying for a prostitute; But Trump payed Stormy $130k to stay quite; That was Cohen and he used his own money; They were working together on the Hush Money deal; Cohen's lawyer said Trump had no clue about the 130k deal; Trump committed a federal crime; Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor; He tried to sway the 2016 election which made it federal; The alleged crime took place in 2017. I don't care, it's still a federal crime; NY doesn't have jurisdiction on federal crimes and now you look like a clown but that's too obvious