Fact Checkers at Snopes forced to admit Ashley Biden's diary is real. Along with this tidbit...

"Hate to break it to you all, but… you all probably bathed with your parents at a young age."

No, no we didn't. You might want to rethink your childhood if you think that's appropriate. Especially at Joe's Daughter's age at the time.

It's crazy to me there are still people out there defending ol' pervert pedophile Joe for anything. Y'all are a dying breed.

Yes, yes you did.

If your parents never bathed you as a baby or a toddler, that’s just bad parenting.

You don’t know what her age was at the time. It’s never stated. You’re only speculating.

It’s crazier to me to jump to conclusions and think you’re too quick to label someone you disagree with a pedophile.

I know she was old enough to remember. She wasn't a baby, but nice try on spinning it to make it sound not perverted.

And nice try on spinning five words to make it sound perverted at all. We don’t know what happened.

She says he showered with her, both naked, in the shower, older than 5 or 6?

Come at me and I’ll say ew.

A father doesn't shower with his daughter, regardless of the age. And you thinking that's okay is sick. You're trying to make it sound better.

Parents give their baby a bath. Parents don't take showers with their children. A mother may get in the tub with her newborn to have skin-to-skin time. A father doesn't shower with his daughter.

Keep spinning it, the more you make excuses, the more you come off sounding gross.

Ad homenims doesn't make your argument more impressive.

All I'm saying is that five words don't infer much and everyone runs with it.

We don't know her age.

We don't know exactly what happened.

The outrage is fake.

"We don't know exactly what happened."

We know her father took a shower with her and you don't seem to understand that that is wrong. I don't care what age she was.

"The outrage is fake."

No, it's not. The outrage is real, just as the outrage y'all have for Trump is real.

The bottom line is you think there's nothing wrong with little kids showering with their parents and you would like to believe that ever child has done it, which they haven't. But there are the vast majority of us who know it's wrong. And no amount of bickering back and forth is going to change that.

Exactly, so there is nothing more to say. I’ve explained my position reasonably.

You would all rather believe the worst.

I don’t. And it’s just not a factor given every horrible thing that’s tried to be applied to Biden is equal to Trump.

That's all they do. Spin, spin, spin, until they can convince themselves that they didn't say or do what they said or did, and it would be okay no matter what.

Liberal logic. It's not logic at all. It's delusion. It's got no purpose other than to allow them to delude themselves into thinking they weren't wrong.

How they look themselves in the mirror or sleep at night is beyond me.

So now, it's "If your parents never bathed you as a baby or a toddler, that’s just bad parenting." instead of what you said in the first place, which is "you all probably bathed with your parents at a young age".

What you did is change your statement from 'bathed with' parents to 'bathed by' parents.

Typical lib tactic; change the meaning of what they said very significantly and then pretend like they're the same thing.

Bullshit like that might work with the media and dimwitted sheeple, but non-libs are too smart and have a better moral grounding than to fall for that brand of liberal shiftiness and lying.

Three posts about this now?

Excessively thinking about incestuous pedophilia is your side.

I just don’t think that was the intent.

"Three posts about this now?"

I'm just responding to you.

Not for you, because you have some sick views about bathing WITH children. Disgusting.

As is usually the case, I'm hoping that someone will read the reply, when they haven't seen the other replies.

Anyway, in another brilliant display of liberal hypocrisy, you seem to think it's okay for you to post three times (or more...) but not me.

Liberal hypocrisy on full display: good for thee, but not for me.

You're free to post as much as you like, but I'm not really seeing much a difference between what you're writing.

Just more ad homonims.

More speculation.

Yawn.

I was likely bathed with one of my parents, but not up to an age that I could have developed a thought of inappropriateness.

Their is a difference in your wife handing you your two year old daughter to bathe while you are in the shower and taking your 13 year old daughter to shower with you.

To quote your prophet, "Come on man*!"

*Use of the word "man" is used as a direct quote of your lord and savior and is not intended to reflect the ever changing, fluid nature, of liberalized leftist gender identity.

There, not their...🤭 Oops, a typo means my whole premise is trash.

Her age is speculative as is the nature of said bathing. She may have showered in his presence but that doesn’t mean he was in the shower with her. Young age could mean anything. Old enough to stand?

Solo bathing begins around age 5 or 6. If her mother was the usual person to help, and her father only occasionally, that can draw a sense of inappropriateness. Especially with the benefit of hindsight with sexual trauma that could be unrelated.

You projection of people’s devotion to Biden as if it is on par with yours for Trump does not make it so.

I can call Biden a scum-sucking, incompetent, incontinent old fool to his face. And I’m voting for him.

Most of MAGA and the people who have already made up their mind to vote for Trump, cannot do the same to Trump.

I disagree with your analysis.

It likewise does not mean he was not in the shower with her.

And the phrase written states "showers WITH my father, not by my father, under the supervision of my father, my father instead of my mother...

A child has no sense of inappropriateness

Show me any post I have made expressing worship of Trump (*hint* there are none).

Well aren't you the bad@$$, you can say that to Biden's face and still vote for him?

Wow, you are so virtuous.

Sounds like you are very devoted to him.

He must have brought you a chicken sandwich and quesadilla platter from the Cook Out.

I must know; how does one declare a man incompetent, to his face no less, yet place their total confidence in his leadership to the point of giving him their one precious vote?

Equal speculation. They were in the shower together, they weren't.

The adult wrote that. The "probably" could infer she only found it inappropriate in hindsight. Perhaps she thought it not so inappropriate at the time. Maybe it wasn't as inappropiate as she thought it was. How accurate are your memories as a child? 100%? 99.9%? 75%? Hmm?

Show me any post I have made expressing worship of Biden (*hint* there are none).

So your assumption that *I* do, leads me to a more probable assumption that *you* do. Perhaps I'm wrong. But even so, there are tons of people who've claimed that they'd "believe Trump over Jesus" Blasphemy.

It's rather simple. I'm proposing that you can't even type that you would consider Trump scum-sucking, incompetent, incontinent, inconvenient old fool.

But I do. Even objectively incestuous, more so than Biden.

So the problem is we have two incestuous scum-sucking, incompetent, incontinent, inconvenient old fools running for President. Again.

The solution? Focus on the polices and the long-term effects of their representation of the American people.

But there is also the other problem that you have inferred. Some people worship the crap out of Trump. Not Biden. I don't see large rallies with Biden. I do with Trump. Even with all his faults. The only shame comes from the people voting for Biden. Trump voters, don't share that shame with their candidate. Denying the obvious that he's just as horrible as they claim Biden is. But see, they don't really care. They know how horrible Trump is and are not only incapable of doing what I would do to Biden...

They can't even type it.

Maybe they don't really believe it... maybe they're really that objectively stupid. Honestly, I'd have more respect for someone who could say that about Trump AND still vote for Trump.

Not that my respect is worth anything to you, of course.

But I do find it troubling that people hide behind subjective truths just to forward their own agendas. I'm sure you find it equally as troubling. And you should.

But if you really did... you would have no problem typing what I typed for your chosen candidate.

I'm sure, like me, you've already picked before the race has even really begun.

And nothing could ever make you say something like that about Trump. Even if it were objectively true. Which it is.

And I find that far more disturbing than what some woman wrote in her journal in confidence.

You will only admitt that your hero is a degenerate if another says your champion's adversary is an equal scumbag?

That is disingenuous.

Find another rube to help you.

Speak to the truth that Joe's own daughter stated in her own truth and in her own words.

You are not adhering to your own support of Occam's razor - the simplest explanation is the most likely explanation - Joe used his own daughter as a side chick...and she's a junkie as a result of his incestuous molestations.

Wow, you really love Joe Biden to call that guy a hero. Me? He's just a piece of toilet paper I wipe my ass with every four years. Twice, and then I reach for the next one.

I've HAPPILY admitted my choice for President is a degenerate. With zero conditions. I think your choice is equally degenerate. That doesn't really make much of a difference of choice, with the exception of policy.

And it's hilarious that you can't say the same. So, forgive me, if I don't find your poor attempt to see Biden as more horrible than your guy hilarious.

You wanna jail Biden for five words on a piece of paper? Fine! But lets jail them all. You wouldn't dare jail a single Republican... or at least Trump... because somehow you think he does any good.

He does not.

"Your opinion is that the facts are what you believe to be true while any opposing opinion is not based on facts. How quaint...and insufficient."

No, I simply value facts over opinions.

Fact. Joe Biden's daughter wrote that she showered with her dad at a young age.

Fact. The right have speculations on age, context, and motive.

Fact. Even if Joe Biden did shower inappropriately with his daughter; this does not make him more of a scumbag than Trump considering how many interviews there are about him wanting to ACTUALLY sleep with his own daughter.

In any reality where Biden was running up against any Republican, that wasn't Trump, I would've happily voted for that Republican. Even if THIS was the sole reason. Those five words.

Sadly, we chose Trump again for the Republican nominee.

We really need to start looking at whom we select if WE really don't want another Democrat in the white house in 2028.

"The only damning thing here is she thought it was “probably inappropriate”."

In this case, the "it" being that her pedo dad showered with her as a child.

Here's what she wrote: "Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma,”

Have you read any part of the diary? Cleary not. She said she was hyper sexualized at a young age.

"Hate to break it to you all, but… you all probably bathed with your parents at a young age."

I literally said, out loud, "Oh my God" when I read that sentence. The absolute blinders you libs have on for this and other issues is just astounding. Willful, actually, which makes it all the more disgusting.

Let me make what I suspect will be a futile effort at explaining to you just how sick and perverted that statement is. First of all, Biden is the only parent that I've ever heard of bathing WITH their child. Sure, parents bathe their children, but WITH their children? Hell NO!

Also, the diary is quite specific in that he showered with her. Not giving her a bath, or even as sick as it would be, bathing with her. He showered with her.

Do you understand the differences here?

AND btw, the photo I attached is just sauce for the goose. Look at that fcuking pedo... look at how he's got her positioned in this photo.

I won't vouch for this photo, because I just found it and haven't checked into its authenticity. But if it's true, and she's 15 here, and his wife is still alive, and he's in his 30's, all of which the photo claims, then he's one sick fcuk.

Even if that photo isn't true, tell me you want to defend that sick fcuk who showers with his kid. Go on, take a shot at it so we can see just how your mind operates.

I have started there, been there, and am satisfied that I'm pretty much done with OTHER legitimate reasons to dislike Demented Joe Bribe-em. Now I've moved on to worrying about him being a pedo.

In my experience, people tend to find politics tedious.

It’s much easier to start with accusations and worry about politics later.

That’s exactly why you shouldn’t.

Look at all of Trump’s accusations. It took liberals 250 things before maybe one or two things stuck. The whole, “the only way they could get Capone was through tax fraud” comes to mind.

Now the right is trying that with Hunter… but at the end of the day…

We both know who wins in 2024.

So, I guess, keep thinking horrible things about people you disagree with politically. Keep exacerbating and escalating problems instead of solving them. Look how well such politics have worked for the last eight years and look where we are now.

Having fun yet?

Those first three sentences (paragraphs?) make no sense. Trust me, I am not starting with accusations. I'm probably one of the more easy going anti-Bribe-em sorts here on imgflip, but when I hit my limit with his bullshit, that's it. I call it as soon as Bribe-em deals it. 9% inflation when he took office? Just more demented bullshit from the bullshitter in chief.

"Look at all of Trump’s accusations. It took liberals 250 things before maybe one or two things stuck. "

Wow, just wow. Two points. It's not that it took 250 things before any would stick, it's that 250 lies made up by the media and dems, then spoon fed to the sheeple, who of course lapped up all of them. This resulted in things like the Alvin Twinkies Bragg case, which is not a case at all. The FEC said there was nothing there. You really should try and get some perspective on this.

"Now the right is trying that with Hunter… but at the end of the day…"

Just what is it that they're trying with Hunter?

What are they trying that even approaches the level of lies that have been told about Trump constantly, since the moment he announced?

Speaking for myself, (well of course... that's all I can do) if I had a pocket full of fcuks, I couldn't bring myself to give even one about what that klown Hunter does in his personal life. But when he drags in Demented Joe Bribe-em into his sleazy business dealings (or is it the other way around?) and it impacts the country, then yes, I will give a fcuk about that loser because I care about my country.

"We both know who wins in 2024."

I bow to your superior ability to predict the future! 🤣 Of course I know who I want to win. With you, I'll play my cards close to the vest. You could be an RFK Jr type of person for all I know.

"So, I guess, keep thinking horrible things about people you disagree with politically."

You have me confused with a leftist. That's what they do. I am 100% live and let live. As stated previously about Hunter, which also applies to plenty of sleazeballs on the left and right in the political arena, I couldn't give any fcuks about what they do in their personal lives. Besides, I'm no paragon of morality, so I try not to judge.

Cool.

Not really. But somebody has to point out your disgusting hypocrisy when it comes to bathing with children.

What's hypocritical about speculation? You speculate it was probably incestuous, I speculate it was probably nothing.

We don't know anything. We may think we know something, but we don't.

Lmao..."Y'all bathing with your folks like the Bidens?"

At a young age, yeah. Babies don’t bathe themselves. Your parents very likely bathed you.

Try again.

Lol...of course they bathed me, they didn't bathe with me.

You try again...wtf!

And that's the point exactly. Gumshoe changed what they wrote and are pretending like they're saying the same thing. It's pathetic, imo.

Good. So you see my point. All we know is what she wrote. Inferring more than that is pure speculation.

In typical liberal fashion, you moved the goal posts. You're acting like you said all along 'bathed by' when you actually said 'bathed with'.

Your viewpoint hasn't changed and what you find acceptable hasn't changed, so only the way you described it has changed. And I'll bet it's changed in the direction of being less representative of what you believe. Disgusting.

I’m just not interested in the speculation.

You are.

You're interested in willful ignorance, I'm not.

I think you're more interested in having the final say, honestly.

I've been pretty consistent with what I said.

Outside of those five words, we have no context, and everything else is speculation.

Nor does it affect anything politically.

Trump and Biden are equals in terms of horribleness with the exception on policy.

The choice comes down to policy.

...

And I would've happily chosen a Republican this time, almost anyone but Trump would've been a better choice than Biden.

But the partisan hacks forced me to vote this way.

I lost more under Trump's terrible policies than I have in the last four years. The country has has irrevocable damage for the next decade under Trump. Biden's damages? They'll end after his second term.

You're also not interested in explaining why you completely shifted the meaning of what you're trying to say.

Quick refresher: you're attempting to ignore the fact that I've called you out repeatedly for changing your story from it being okay for children to "bathe with" their parents, to "bathe by" their parents.

But that's okay, keep ignoring your disgusting views being called out with you totally ignoring the fact.

Nobody would expect integrity from a lib.

Lmao...nah, I don't see your point...in fact, I think at this POINT for you, it would be in your best interest to hop outta the hot water, you threw yourself in the tub with, along with the disturbing topic.

Hey, you guys brought it up.

I’m mostly here to discuss politics.

You’re here trying to prove Biden is a pedophile, whether it’s true or not.

I think we have different goals.

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Neato! F**k Joe Biden.

He’s too old, too out of touch, and certainly not my first-to-billionth choice.

Too bad you can’t say the same to your number one choice.

Exactly.

Trump is not too old.

Trump is not out of touch.

Trump is certainly not your first to billionth choice.

You're not going to prove your point by making statements that put Trump in a positive light.

Why am I not surprised when libs are unaware of what they're saying?

Biden's not too old either... he's demented. Regardless of age, we don't want someone with dementia having their finger on the nuclear button. Let alone all the insanely horrible policy decisions he's made, both foreign and domestic.

Bruh...

Your willful ignorance is showing.

Bu that's not what you said/wrote before. You wrote 'bathed with' NOT 'bathed by'.

Huuuuuuuuge difference.

I don't think you mis-wrote what you were thinking, so why the change? It's certainly not that you suddenly realized what you wrote represented being a pedo... or anything correct like that.

You speculate it was sexual in nature.

I merely don’t see the point.