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"It's gendercide...and it's trendsgenderism all in one!"

Killer Instinct

Breast cancer is the worst, y’know?

The topic is "transgender" attention seeking behavior NOT medically necessary surgeries.

Save your red herring dinner.

Attention seeking? Really? Is that why you think people transition?

Oh, I see that you misunderstand.

I think people cannot "transition".

They can cross dress, have body parts removed, prosthetics added, take medications, but achieve only a poor imitation.

To directly answer your question, yes, I believe that they do this for the sole purpose of garnering attention for themselves.

PS - my earlier comment should have read, "save the red herring for your dinner"

Now, provide the reason why you posted a disingenuous red herring comment when you are fully aware the topic is not related to medically necessary surgeries.

Because I wanted to give you a chance to say something good for once and not utter nonsense. Don’t know why I said that, I’m just the forgiving type, y’know?

And believe me, I’m not transitioning to get your attention, I’ve done that well enough already by opposing your viewpoints. I transition so that I can get the body that I feel the best in and not feel dysphoria when I have to shave my face or see an extra appendage below my waistline. It wouldn’t matter if everyone did it or there was no one else to see it, we’d still do it

You posted a disingenuous reply because you are seeking attention.

Not just attention, but my attention.

I know it does not matter if no one was there to see it because you will post about it endlessly and make sure you get your attention.

Perhaps it is you that needs the opportunity to speak something other than utter nonsense.

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Here you go again, with your delusion that you live rent-free in my head. Listen, I didn’t even realize it was you who made that first comment, you mean nothing to me.

And if I do so desperately post about being trans for attention, please show me every time I’ve said “Oh, look at me, I’m trans!” Because I only bring it up when it’s relevant to the conversation, unlike you going off against certain programs and philosophies with ties to affirmative action. I think you’d highly benefit from buying a mirror, lad.

There you go with your bullying, bigotry, hatred, heterophobia, and refusal to accept others that are different than you.

Was it was the question as to why a word would require being created to distinguish women from not women that made you so angry that your true prejudicial colors came out?

I am sure that it was.

Affirmative action is discrimination.

DEI is discrimination.

You do not have to answer, but you will.

If you do not reply we both know it is because I stated the above. 😄

I don’t care that you know I will answer. You think I’d be put off by you saying the sky is blue? Don’t kid yourself.

And what do you mean, “prejudice?” Where was I prejudiced in my earlier reply? Oh, wait, I wasn’t, and you’re just trying to prey on my insecurity by faking that you care about being PC.

If I sound hateful towards you, it’s got nothing to do on your race, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion or whatever. I hate you because you’re a troll who’d rather make [insert buzzword here] arguments instead of doing anything to actually improve your life.

Actually, No, I don’t hate you. I just pity you because me blowing up in your comments is the only thing that makes you happy in life. Maybe I should stop and let your happiness wither away.

This is the one time the last picture should have them laughing.

Yeah no one is bullied for being cisgender. At all

Uhhhhhhow about just the act of referring to people that consider themselves STRAIGHT as Cisgender against their will?

Here comes the flow chart! 😄

Well those are two different things. Someone can be trans but still straight, and gay people (using gay as an umbrella term here) can still be cis. And of course, straight people can be cis and gay people can be trans

So if a straight man plans to become a woman, is he wanting to be a lesbian?

He is a crossdresser that has sex with women as his "kink".

Short answer: If a trans woman likes women, then she’s a trans lesbian

Long answer: Not necessarily. Sometimes hormone therapy can change sexuality, so a trans woman who likes women pre-transition may find herself attracted to men during or post HRT. Though if it doesn’t, then she’d be a trans lesbian.

And who knows! Maybe she’ll still be attracted to women but gain an attraction to men as well, then she’d be a bisexual trans woman. Or maybe after transition, she won’t feel sexual attraction at all, and be an asexual trans woman.

I don't know a single straight person that wants to be called cis as opposed to just being referred to in proper person, him his he she hers her. One group; in this case the lgbtq community, referring to ANOTHER GROUP, they see as adversaries, in this case straight people, is no different than any other belligerent bigoted group coming up with names for people they find undesirable. I.e. F@ggots, N-gg-rs, Guk-s, slants etc.

Please, we don’t see straight and/or cis people as “adversaries.” The only people we are opposed to are the people who oppose us. There is nothing “undesirable” about solely being attracted to another gender or identifying with the gender with which you were assigned at birth. Heck, it’s good that you don’t have to suffer from social stigma like we do. All we want is to end the stigma around us, not push it onto others

There is no such thing as "cisgender".

It is a made up word created to distinguish a man/woman from a "trans" man/woman.

I think this serves as another example that no "transition" to the opposite gender occurs, and more to the point, that those choosing an alternate lifestyle also realize this.

Otherwise, they would simply say man or woman.

But where's that attention in that?

There are men, women, and the rare hermaphrodite/intersexed individual.

Anything else is sexuality and/or "kink".

So if it's as simple an explanation as o well we made it up because it's easier for us to identify them by words we've made up n defined despite what they want to be called.....then what's wrong with referring to lgbtqs as F@gs or Home-os?

I agree that regular folks should not be referred to using bigoted derogatory terms, such as "cis", "het", "normie", etc.

But people can say what they want to say...until it becomes a "hate crime" once the true goal is achieved - protected class status.

A license to be an whiny, complaining, A-hole and coast through doing nothing in school, in the workplace, in society, in life.

I maintain that if a man in drag is a real woman, why do you need to create a word that distinguishes him from an actual woman?

The correct answer is you would not find it necessary EXCEPT for the purpose of drawing attention to the man in costume.

Self victimization coupled with emotional appeals does not grant license to discriminate against others that do not wish to participate in pushing an agenda that does psychological and physical harm to people based on their sexual preferences and beliefs.

A common phrase is "you gotta accept me the way that I am", yet they do not accept those in disagreement with them the way that they are.

Odd is it not?

Accept me as is but I do not accept you as is.

This is not coming from the LGB community, it is coming from the rest of the alphabet that appropriated the LGB organization, hijacked the LGB.

Hi, I'd like to try clarify a few things here.

First, men in drag are not women. Men are still men regardless of how they dress. Trans women, however, are distinguished from men by the fact that they experience their lives as women.

Second, we're not discriminating and pushing a harmful agenda, you are.

Third, the reason why disagreement is not accepted is because trans people are tired of having to fight so hard just to be seen as themselves. The acceptance we're looking for is acceptance of self, while the acceptance you are looking for is acceptance of disbelief that it's possible for someone to exist a certain way. Gender, unlike someone's beliefs, cannot really be changed. At the same time, I understand that it's not always easy to change what you believe, especially if you have reason (or supposed reason) to believe it; however, that does not make it true or right.

Fourth, the trans community has always been an important part of the queer community, helping to fight for rights and even build a community in the first place. As for "the rest of the alphabet": though some identities have not been named or recognized for long, they exist for a reason, that reason being that someone identifies with them and wants to see if anyone else does, too. I myself am asexual and aromantic, and could use more specific labels if I wanted to and thought they fit. I do not identify this way because it's a trend, or because I want to be part of a club, or even because I think people will treat me differently because of it; I identify this way simply because it matches my experience of never having been sexually or romantically attracted to anyone. I don't expect special treatment, it's mostly just a form of self-discovery (for me).

Hi, cis girl here! I'm pretty sure I exist 😄

I agree that the term is used to separate us from trans people, and I see no problem with that. Just how the term "white" isn't discriminatory for separating us from other races, neither is the term "cis" discriminatory for separating cisgender people from transgender people. One (of either of these examples) isn't more "normal" than the other. One might be more common, or not. Either way, neither are something you can change.

Aren’t all words made up? When we find something that we need a word for, we make it. For your logic to be consistent, you’d have to refer to mammals by their definition every time you wanted to reference one or call video games “programs with a specific goal for the user to accomplish, usually made for entertainment purposes.”

And the thing is, these terms probably wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for widespread transphobia, where we have to distinguish ourselves from our brethren who identify with their assigned gender at birth because a very vocal group of people don’t believe us when we say what our genders are.

I will give you a point for knowing the intersex term though, but to disregard all non-normative gender expression as a “kink” is disingenuous. Yes, AGP people exist, but there isn’t any real correlation between AGP and trans people, as AGP people still usually identify with their assigned gender at birth, just fantasize about being the opposite gender. Just like how cross-dressers tomboys/femboys, and drag performers often still identify with their assigned gender at birth. Not always, of course, as despite being a transwoman myself, I do tend to be tomboyish.

And let me be clear: I’m not forcing you to agree with me, but I am asking that you still respect how people identify, and as long as you’re willing to be open to it, many of us will have the patience and grace for if you slip up

I knew that would be your argument.

Your "for your logic..." line is illogical. Or to use your terms, "utter nonsense".

If a man dressed as a woman is a woman in your mind, why would your mind find the need to distinguished the costumed man from a regular old, ordinary, everyday since birth, woman?

😄 You "aren't forcing me"...that is amusing.

Especially since I have been perfectly clear in saying that I in no way agree with you.

But I must inquire, why do you not hold yourself to the same standard of respect for the difference(s) of others?

I am not open to "it".

It is not based on phobia.

It is based on reality.

Save your patience and grace.

That is something I do not require.

You don’t want neither my patience nor grace? Fine, you asked for it.

“But I must inquire, why do you not hold yourself to the same standard of respect for the difference(s) of others?”
The f**k do you mean by that? Of course I respect others in their beliefs. At least, for most people, but since you don’t want that, I guess I won’t. Though isn’t that in a way respecting your beliefs? Looks like you’ve built yourself one of those clever little paradoxes, huh? Too bad, I don’t care.

You say it’s not based on phobia, yet why do you post long rants against LGBTQ+ people when challenged? If there was no fear or aversion to it then why do you care? Are you that desperate to log onto this site on the school bus and find someone “woke” just you can go home and say “Mommy! Mommy! I owned a lib today!”? Is that seriously how you want to live your life?

And clearly you didn’t (or maybe couldn’t?) read my previous reply, as I CLEARLY stated that someone dressing to what is traditionally feminine doesn’t mean they call themselves a woman. Maybe check back at someone’s argument before saying your Instant Ramen rebuttal.

And here’s the kicker, I know you wanted this type of reply all along. You’re just gonna take this and say “LoOk My FeLlOw AlPhA mAlEs! ThIs [insert slur here] GoT sO mAd BeCaUsE I pReSeNtEd “FaCtS aNd LoGic! HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!!” Because that’s all you are: a pathetic child who thinks they know it all and every single lady would love to marry you and have your kids because you’re just so “Intelligent.” Well here it is, I hope you’re satisfied. If you’re not, good, because at least I got catharsis out of it.

😄 Get a life.