Voting for change...

894 views • 30 upvotes • Made by sevenheart 1 year ago in politics
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AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
6 ups, 1y, 2 replies
They would be absolutely insane if they tried to put Biden back in the White House.  The whole world knows he is as senile as you can get and still be alive.  They have to give him drugs just to keep him coherent.

But the Dems don't have anyone else who stands a snowball's chance in hell to win in 2024.

If they try voter fraud again there is just no way to cover that up.  It was absolutely absurd to think that Biden got 81 million votes in 2020.  They're going to have to create that same lie again in 2024 only a whole lot fewer people will buy into this scam this time.
sevenheart
5 ups, 1y, 1 reply
I laugh at how they dismiss the science of math that says there were 22 million more votes than there were registered voters. I guess they have other things to think about while they are waiting at the hospital for their man friend to have a baby.
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darko_yolo
0 ups, 1y, 2 replies
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
So I am not a John Birch society kind of a guy.  I have nothing against them but I am not into conspiracy theories.  I just try to make sense out of the facts instead.  But my dad leaned a little more on the John Birch side all my life growing up.

But here is the point I am trying to make.  I have been hearing that the CFR is part of the New World Order all my life.  It wasn't until I heard about the UN's Agenda 21 and then Agenda 2030 that I saw who the New World Order is.  And now the World Economic Forum is just blatantly throwing it in your face that they want a global fascistic government.  One were "you will own nothing and be happy."

So forgive me if I just do not put any faith in your meme, seeing how it came from the CFR.  Regardless if they are part of the New World Order or not they skew heavily to the left.  Which means (just like everything from the left) they are lying.  There used to be a time when the Dems still had a shred of any semblance of morality, but those days are long gone.  Without morality there is no reason not to lie when you are trying to prove your point.

So try and find actual stats from a reputable source.

And why are there fewer registered voters now than back then?  Did all of those fake registrations get cleaned out of the system?  BTW you do know it is illegal to vote more than once.  It does not matter if you travel to another state and have a bogus residency setup in that state.  It is still illegal.  You know what else is illegal?  Allowing millions of non-citizens to flood across our border and creating bogus id's so that you can bus them around from precinct to precinct and making them vote Democrat.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Was every major news source in America bribed to "cover it up" ? Soros?

"And why are there fewer registered voters now than back then?"

Well a million of em might've died in a pandemic but I have a feeling you think those deaths are also "fake news".... registered voters has ebbed and flowed for almost 20 years though. Also I'd tend to think people give more f*cks about being registered to vote for president vs the midterms 2 years after.

Yes I'm aware voting twice is illegal. Several Republicans were caught doing that in 2020. I think trump even suggested it once? Not sure.

Ya I've heard about the alleged millions of undocumented immigrants voting... on an anonymous meme website.

..Interesting claim in this context though. I mean... weren't the borders "closed" under trump??? Did Biden "open" the borders and send immigrants back in time to vote for him in 2020 or how exactly does that work?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 2 replies
Every major news source sold out their integrity decades ago.  The mainstream media is nothing but propaganda for the left.

The pandemic????  You're blaming the pandemic????  In case you forget the pandemic stated BEFORE the election.

How do you know from you stat that the majority of voters were Democrats.  The left hates to admit it but Trump was a wildly popular president.  The left could not see it because they were blinded by their extreme hatred.

Trump winning changed the mood in America so that businesses started reinvesting in themselves causing a massive hiring boom.  The economy was well on its way to recovery.  But then the global fascists released the virus they engineered on the world.

No president who presided over a booming economy has ever lost re-election.  But then no president who presided over a dead economy has ever won re-election until Obama cheated his way back into the White House through voter fraud.  But as it turned out we wouldn't have been any better off if Romney had won.  What a massive disappointment Romney is.

This is how you will know if there is voter fraud in 2024.  If Biden wins he can only win be fraud.  And it's going to have to be on a much bigger scale then in 2020.  Biden has the lowest approval rate ever.  A lot of Dems ate disappointed with him.  And if you leftists could suspend your hatred for Trump for a minute and ask if the country was better under Trump than under Biden then you would realize what a horrible mistake Biden is.  But then maybe you think unemployment is good for America.  Perhaps you think millions of people from all over the world illegally immigrating into the country, including hundreds of thousands of Islamic terrorists.

Your president is the most anti-American president we've ever had.  Well, I shouldn't say that, he's just a puppet.  That's why the senile idiot was installed.  It's the international fascists who are pulling his puppet strings.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Ah.. well I guess this discussion will be based on feels then. If you don't believe any media, you can't cite a source to back anything up because its all fake news and you won't believe mine if I do.. CFR or not was irrelevant.

Did you forget what we were talking about..? Maybe I need to do a recap...

You: "And why are there fewer registered voters now than back then?"

Me: " well a million might've died in the pandemic"

You: "The pandemic??? You're blaming the pandemic??? In case you forget the pandemic stated BEFORE the election."

True. It *started Feb 2020 And it did not end in 2020. It continued. So that might be 1 factor in explaining why the amount of registered voters decreased from 2020 to 2022.

"How do you know from you stat that the majority of voters were Democrats."

Once again you seem to be forgetting context. The person I originally responded to here's point was that there were millions more total votes than registered voters in America. Therefore muh fraud.. because math. (apparently their source was the tweet on facebook...but not 100% sure..)

Whether or not the majority of the voters were democrat or republican is irrelevant to my point. I'm saying there is no evidence that there were millions more votes than registered voters. Multiple sources say the opposite.

And as far as trump losing, saying something has not happened before is not evidence that it cannot happen. 

Obama was handed a recession/ stock market crash aka "dead economy" from GW Bush. He turned it around. I literally dont know what you're talking about &I don't think you do either.

There.. I added a meme of the DJIA so you can see my point.

"If Biden wins he can only win be fraud".

Yes I understand you think that is the only way he can win. Pretty sure the twice impeached, 4 times indicted failed former president trump said the same thing in 2016.

This might be a shock to you but I don't think America has been destroidDdDd.. I think Joe Biden was handed a complete pile of sh*t state of affairs in 2021 exactly like Obama was in 2009. The right seems to view the trump years with rose colored glasses & seems to have completely deleted 2020 out of their memory. Or if they do remember it they blame dems and Joe Biden anyway.

I dont know how you can bring up unemployment considering biden beat trump in terms of lowest unemployment number.... Ah... nevermind... To you the media is fake news. So you can basically say whatever you want.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 2 replies
Look up the Bureau of Labor Statistics and find the Labor Participation rate.  This is the rate of the number of working age adults compared to the number who are employed.  Everyone looks at the unemployment rate but that is a bogus rate.  That rate is the number of people who are collecting unemployment compensation.  It does not take into account anyone who has been on unemployment over 2 years and have fallen off the roles.

Under Bush the Labor Participate was not great but it wasn't bad either.  Under Obama it was dismal.  The media will NOT report that.  Their job is to tell you everything is wonderful when a Democrat is president and everything is awful with a Republican is president.  That is all they know how to do.

Also look up the Debt to GDP ratio.  The lower the percentage the better off America and the dollar is financially.  It is easier to pay or debts.  There have only been two times in American history where the Debt to GDP ratio has been over 100%.  When it is over 100% American manufacturing cannot produce enough products for the government to tax so they can pay their bills.  It is like if you work at McDonalds and you take out a loan on a $300,000 house.  You don't earn enough to pay your mortgage.

The first time the Debt to GDP ratio went over 100% was during the Great Depression and it was a result of Roosevelt being a compete and utter moron, prolonging the depression over 10 years.  He spent money like crazy.

The second time it went over 100% was under Obama.  It has never been less than 100% at any time after Obama (including the Trump years).  Obama lowered our national credit rating twice.  It went back up by the end of his second term but it has dropped even further under Biden.

So while you are fussing over news that you disagree with being fake news, I just told you to look up the stats directly from the government.  Always, always, always go do the source.

The mainstream media lies their butts off to protect Democrats and lie their butts off to destroy Republicans.  This is clearly obvious when you find the sources yourself.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 3 replies
So ya I looked up the labor force participation rate stats directly from the government. Idk what you think you proved with that.

The labor force participation rate dipped ~3% as Obama got us out of the recession which he inherited from Bush and then leveled out more or less flat before trump got in... therefore Obama destroyed the economy?

And it was "booming" after Obama when trump got in..  because it rose maybe ~0.6%... total.. at the most... and was still lower at that time than at any point of obama's first term.. .....which you said was so bad that you implied it was some sort of evidence of voter fraud that Obama managed to get elected again. 

If a ~0.6% increase in 3 years regardless of what the previous rate was indicates a "booming economy" then I guess Joe Biden's economy is even better than "booming". 

I think its interesting that you brought up unemployment but soon as I mention Biden beating trump in the unemployment rate, the unemployment rate becomes fake news. It was fake news under Obama, then it became real news when trump got elected (and was often mentioned defining "the economy" and how great it was at the time). Now apparently the unemployment rate has become fake news once again under biden. Shocking. 

And of course you hear literally zero right wingers describing it as "the economy" these days because now the definition of "the economy" they have switched from the unemployment rate to inflation..for Joe Biden anyway. For Obama "the economy" is apparently defined as labor force participation and/or debt to GDP ratio. Funny how that works.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
"Pointing to it continuing to decline after Obama got elected and saying "AHA look what Obama did".... but not allowing me to attribute the recession which precipated that chain of events and began under Bush to Bush... seems somewhat absurd."

Nothing absurd at all.  If Obama understood (and also Bush for that matter) understood how free market economics then that decline that continued under Obama would have been an up turn.  And that's the problem.  So, yes, I can blame Obama for being a Marxist idiot.  Marxist economic theories are crap.  They do not work and they never have.  And, yes, Obama was a Marxist.  He was raised in Marxism.  His mother, grandparents and his mentor were all steeped in Marxism.  Obama met Michelle at a rally for a new political party that lasted about 5 minutes in Chicago called the New Party.  It was based on Marxism.

If Obama had the slightest clue about how economics works he could have turned the recession around in less than a year.  Reagan did it after the malaise that Carter left us in.  Warren Harding/Calvin Coolidge did it after the nightmare that Wilson left us with.  In fact there was a stock market collapse in 1919 that looked just like the one 10 years later.  No one ever heard of that one because Coolidge prevented the depression that would have followed if he acted like Hoover and FDR.  Hoover and FDR created the Great Depression because of incompetence and no other reason.  Hoover should have known better but FDR was steeped in Socialism and had no clue what to do.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y
Sounds pretty absurd and ridiculous to me. 

Are we just going to pretend that free market capitalism isn't what caused the housing bubble to burst and banks to collapse in the first place...?  Was Bush secretly a Marxist too or how does that work...? 

I mean sure the banks were handing out loans like they were halloween candy but the real problem was mean ol marxist Obama!.... trying to actually make banks have rules!

Is that the "Marxism" you're talking about? Trying to make banks be a little bit more responsible or what?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
How come you wrote Bush Recession during the Obama years?  Yes, there was a recession when the housing bubble burst.  And, yes, Bush was partly to blame, but Obama was NOT the solution to the recession.  You can't expect a devout Marxist to ever fix a recession.

You also see how the labor participation rate was going up under Trump and down under Obama.  It did start to go back up again at the end of Obama's term.

The left will always put the blame on Trump for the economic decline during the pandemic but that blame falls right at the feet of the governor and other local politicians and all of their totalitarian lock downs.  Trump didn't cause the lockdowns.  No politician at any level had the right or the authority to lockdown businesses for any reason but they did it anyway.  The vast majority of those lockdown Nazis were Democrats.

The labor participation rate was going up under Trump.  The greatest thing that happened to the economy was not anything Trump did, it was Hillary losing.  You could almost hear a massive sigh of relief in the business world.  They started hiring again because they no longer feared the government.

The labor participation rate will never be at 100% because there are a lot of stay at home moms, despite all of the brow beating on the left for moms to work to survive their economic downturns.  Plus there are people who prefer to freeload off of other people (like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, neither of whom worked a day in their lives in the private sector).

I noticed you didn't cover much of the Biden years.  How's that going for you?
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y
"How come you wrote Bush Recession during the Obama years? Yes, there was a recession when the housing bubble burst...."

Yes the housing bubble burst.. the stock market was crashing.... huge banks were failing.... Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Washington Mutual, Ameribank etc were failing......... and the labor force participation rate had already begun to decline.

Pointing to it continuing to decline after Obama got elected and saying "AHA look what Obama did".... but not allowing me to attribute the recession which precipated that chain of events and began under Bush to Bush... seems somewhat absurd.

But to be fair "Bush Recession" IS somewhat vague considering apparently there were 2 of them which began "under his watch". The first one apparently began only 2 months after Bush was inaugurated in though so eh..

Anywho that (2nd) recession was a complete sh*t show. A sh*t show that Bush started, handed to Obama, and Obama finished... In part by spending our way out of it. I wonder if they had said f*ck it, let the banks fail, and not spent a dime of stimulus where we would've ended up.

If labor force participation merely going up slightly is evidence of a "boom" well... good news everybody. We're in a boom right now.

If you want me to cover said "boom"/ how its going with biden, cool. I will do another chart with trump handing a piece of sh*t to Biden. .....The labor force participation rate is still "the economy", right?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
"Are we just going to pretend that free market capitalism isn't what caused the housing bubble to burst and banks to collapse in the first place"

It didn't.

The reason why "the banks were handing out loans like they were halloween candy" was because of the government.  Carter passed the Community Reinvestment Act which pushed the banks to give housing loans to lower income people.  When Clinton was president he tweaked the CRA to push banks harder.  Bush came along and upped the game of the CRA and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

However, there were a few banks who didn't go along with the updated regulations.  Those banks didn't suffer like the ones who bowed to the regulations.

This was the direct cause of the housing bubble bursting.  Suddenly there were a ton of loan defaults by people who had not business getting those loans in the first place.  They could never afford the payments.

The rules that Obama tried to make on the banks was to take them over.  He wasn't successful at that but he didn't even come close to solving the problem.

You need to understand what the free market ACTUALLY is and not the BS hype Karl Marx and all of his minions think it is.  The cause of every financial downturn or disaster in America was NOT cause by the free market.  It can all be directly or indirectly traced by to Marxism.  You can also call it corruption but then Marxism IS corruption.  Woodrow Wilson (Marxist) forced the Federal Reserve on us.  The Feds cut the money supply and caused a panic in the stock market which lead to the crash in 1929.  Hoover (not a Marxist but also not an economist) thought the government could help and turned the crash into the great depression.  People were disappointed with Hoover and ran to the wrong direction and voted for Roosevelt (Marxist).  FDR didn't get rid of Hoover's plans to correct the market, he enhanced them despite running on a campaign of "change" (sound familiar).

Bush didn't cause the housing market bubble collapse but he enhanced an existing policy that did.  Nor did the banks cause the housing market bubble to collapse.  It was policy based on Marxism.  When you demand the government do everything for you, you are relinquishing your freedom and empowering a monster.  This is what the Democrats have been doing ever since Woodrow Wilson was president.
darko_yolo
0 ups, 1y
"The reason why "the banks were handing out loans like they were halloween candy" was because of the government. [CRA] "

No. They were doing it to make $ and there was plenty of it via Wall Street demand from investors through mortgage backed securities and such.

And loans made by CRA banking institutions were half as likely to default on loans compared with similar loans made in the same neighborhoods by private nonbank mortgage originators not subject to the law. (400 of them went bankrupt during the housing crisis.)

So idk whick ones youre talking about that didn't "suffer like the ones who bowed to the regulations"..? 

Also how exactly are you claiming Bush "enhanced" the CRA? ..Less regulation or more?

"We simply cannot accept a system in which hedge funds or private equity firms inside banks can place huge, risky bets that are subsidized by taxpayers and that could pose a conflict of interest.  And we cannot accept a system in which shareholders make money on these operations if the bank wins but taxpayers foot the bill if the bank loses." 

- more 'Marxism' from Obama?
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 2 replies
I looked at debt to GDP ratios too... it increased as Obama spent us out of the recession. And then it increased again as trump spent us out of the pandemic. We seem to spend our way out of problems.

"The second time it went over 100% was under Obama. It has never been less than 100% at any time after Obama (including the Trump years)."

Idk where you got ^that information but the information I found directly from the government (or from the WH anyway) seems to be different.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 2 replies
Something strange is a foot at the bureau of labor statistics.  I think there's been some history revisionism going on here.

I distinctly remember the dept to GDP ratio going of 100% under Obama.  It was in the conservative news and more importantly I looked it up on the bureau of labor statistics website.

To say it never went over 100% until the pandemic hit is false.  It didn't even drop below 100 the entire time Trump was in office.

I remember all of that.  I looked it up.

Well that just goes to show you that you can never trust the government.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y
I'm not going to call you a liar.. but I have no way to verify the accuracy of your memory of whatever the charts were before.
Modda
0 ups, 1y
Post it
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y
"I'm not going to call you a liar."

Well let me put it this way.  I would not have asked you to go look at the debt to GDP ratio if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes.  And actually it was some lib on ImgFlip who pointed out with stats from the BLS about how the debt to GDP ratio was over 100% under Trump.  I had just assumed it had come down because the economy was doing better.  I looked it up and he was right.  But now it is below 100%.  There's some funny business going on at the BLS.  Now I don't even trust the Labor Participation stats you posted.  They looked similar to what I saw but I thought it went back up a little more under Trump.  However, I will accept what you found on that because it wasn't a major difference if there was any difference at all.  But the debt to GDP is something else.  That is a massive change.

I should have realized that the economy had been doing better but Trump's spending was on par with every Democrat in the last century.
Modda
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 3 replies
You wanna know where you can find 81 million Biden voters?  No where. They don't exist

The Democrat motto has always been: Vote Democrat and vote as many times as you can.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 2 replies
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
That's what Dems did.  The Dems motto: Vote until we win and then keep voting.
darko_yolo
0 ups, 1y
Republicans: the election was secure. 

Republican president: vote twice.
Modda
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Calling takeout for delivery is worth a try too! Almost.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
Oooohhhhh  That phone call.  He was ordering a 11,780 topping pizza.  You guys got it all wrong.  He can order that many toppings because he's rich.
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 3 replies
Happy Meals?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
"Yeah, all going 100% automated. Pretty soon the only place to get a job in flyover states is at the Walmart, given that the Military doesn't accept dropouts,,,"

I know for a fact that my job will be done by AI eventually.  I'm a software developer.  We are the ones who create the code that makes things like ImgFlip happen.  If you see it on your computer it is because someone like me wrote the code to make it happen.

We keep getting closer and closer to AI doing our jobs for us.  But that's okay I also pretty close to retirement so it won't matter to me.
Modda
1 up, 1y
Nooooooooooo-o.

You see translucent captions here? I MADE that happen. AndrewFinalyson & a certain someone in HQ then developed it from there, so now we have that in a way that's more easily applicable and also the same ability with images too. 

That's the original translucent color in the meme, btw,,,

Given that you're stuck at basic Impact font with shadows level, well,,,
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
He does like him some McDonald's doesn't he?  

What if he bought the McDonalds restaurant chain, he could called it McDonald Trump.  Then he could put his picture on all of the McDonalds and just continue to piss liberals off every time they drove by a McDonald Trump's.  Who knows, he might even make them serve better quality food.  McDonalds is already going lib proof.  Every city or state that imposes a repressive minimum wage, McDonalds just turns their restaurants into 100% automated.  And that is how the left kills low wage jobs.
Modda
1 up, 1y
Yeah, all going 100% automated. Pretty soon the only place to get a job in flyover states is at the Walmart, given that the Military doesn't accept dropouts,,,
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
0 ups, 1y
No, no, no and no.  This is a normal color print and she's hiding her eyes.  Your usual is a sepia toned image of a chick with freaky eyes.
Modda
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
gaagh, you lobbed what I said back at me!
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y
Are we having fun or what?
AmericanViking
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
So you're saying it was an almost 95% turnout... 🤪

Yup... thanks for proving the fraud...
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y
Muh FraudDdDd!!1 😭 

Thanks for demonstrating that y'all don't actually care because your mind is already made up.

MORE votes than registered voters= 

proof of fraud!!!

LESS votes than registered voters =

also proof of fraud!!!
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
No, no... we realize you think the Dominion/Fox lawsuit is "fake news".... And the election lawsuits getting laughed out of court in 2020... And Trump's  indictments, etc.... Basically anything generally negative for him or against his narrative is considered "fake news" by the right. 

America knew Biden was old as dirt when we voted for him in 2020. This might be a complete shock to you but apparently there are many people who realllllllllly don't like trump.... They would vote for the rotten cadaver of John McCain propped up in a coffin if the other choice is trump. Hillary Clinton actually managed to get more votes nationwide than trump did in 2016... without a pandemic. But I know, I know.. you probably think that was fake news as well.

"a whole lot fewer people will buy into this "scam" this time."

Based on...? 

What evidence has come out against biden as far as voter fraud aka the "scam"..?

...anything?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 2 replies
The proof of voter fraud is irrefutable.  When are you guys going to admit it?
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Who would've thought 3 years later the right would still be crying about trump's loss....... 

Muh FraudDdDd!!1🤣 

There is SOME voter fraud sure. 

I understand the state of Texas (which has a total of 8.1 million people who voted in 2020) has caught a total of 155 people committing voter fraud........... in the past 20 years. 

So in other words..... Joe Biden totally stole the election bro.

I mean sure, me and ~98% of everyone I know voted for Joe Biden... legally... and we didnt buy any signs or hats or go to any rallys... but we're probably just fake news as well! 😝
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
3 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Are you insane????  I don't care about Trump winning or losing.  I care about the election process being commandeered by corrupt fascists who want to destroy this country.

This is our voice and our power over the government and it has been destroyed all because liberal voters won't pay attention.  And those who do know don't care because it is their guy who is being installed.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
Lol I'm not the one still ranting about the election 3 years ago... The only people I ever see going on about muh FraudDdDd!!1 here are trump supporters... clearly still upset about his loss. If you're actually not a trump supporter and you merely quack exactly like a duck , my mistake.

I just cited examples illustrating the existence of SOME voter fraud.... but what else should i be paying attention to that would lead me to conclude that anything has been "destroyed" destroDdDdD!!1...  (another common right wing talking point. You managed to mention the word twice in one comment. Good thing this isn't a drinking game. Lol)

"Biden was installed" would be yet another one.... Meanwhile the right's guy has literally been indicted and is awaiting trial for basically trying to re-install himself. 

But change my mind... What should I be paying attention to that indicates fraud to the scale of democracy being "destroyed" or that Joe Biden has been "installed"?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
There are some of us who have been watching this fraud build up ever since Obama's second election.  Surprisingly it has always been a Democrat who mysteriously wins the popular vote every presidential election since then.  Obama defies the norm by getting re-elected after he decimated the economy.  That never happened before.  Trump presided over a booming economy and lost re-election and that has never happened before.  Bernie Sanders was the most popular Democrat in both the 2016 and 2020 primary elections but for some reason just kept losing the primaries.

It is the total collapse of the integrity of our elections.  When Trump won by the electoral college in 2016 I knew right then and there that the Dems were going to move heaven and hell to make sure a Democrat won in 2020.  They were not going to let a little think like Trump's massive popularity get in the way of pushing that senile idiot into the White House.  Because, with the left, it is always the ends justifying the means.

They would be total idiots to try it again in 2024 but if they don't Trump is going to win in a landslide.  That is just the reality of it all.  And I don't want Trump to win.  I would much rather have Ramaswamy or DeSantis in the White House.

If we don't put someone 100% committed to the constitution and understands free market economics in the White House and if we do not dump 90% of Congress and replace them with the same type of candidate, they we will have lost this great nation.  Freedom will have died along with the economy.  America will collapse.  There will be all sorts of finger pointing and it may even start a civil war but I will tell you know -- just as I knew, back in 2016, Trump would lose to massive voter fraud -- that the entire cause of the collapse is because of the Democrat party and far too many donkeys wearing elephant costumes in Congress.

The dollar will be worthless.  People will not be able to buy food.  It will be a repeat of Germany under the Weimar Republic.  It collapsed and out of the ashes rose Hitler.  We have a modern day Hitler in Klaus Schwab, president of the World Economic Forum.  He has been instigating this global collapse for years now.  He's the one telling Biden what to say and do.  He's the one who wrecked the integrity of our elections.  He is in league with Larry Fink, president of BlackRock, Inc.  They have all the money in the world to buy up presidents, senators, House members and judges to enforce their vision.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
"Surprisingly it has always been a Democrat who mysteriously wins the popular vote every presidential election"

Why is that surprising? Republican policy is wildly unpopular in America. Giving rich people tax breaks at the expense of the poor? Anti-choice abortion policy? Those are just not winning policies. That's why the right has to hype all this culture war smokescreen.

You keep repeating that Obama allegedly ruined the economy.. explain how and in what way.

"Trump presided over a booming economy and lost re-election and that has never happened before. " 

1. The pile of sh*t that was 2020 was the end cap to trumps first term.... the economy was not "booming" at that time.

2. Something not happening before does not prove fraud or anything else. 

"I knew right then and there that the Dems were going to..." 

Feelings. 🥱

"The dollar will be worthless. People will not be able to buy food."

Funny you say that. Republicans were trying to convince me years ago if Hillary got elected we'd be waiting in lines just for water and basic products like toilet paper. Meanwhile trump got elected and we had to wait in lines for water and toilet paper. 

"He [Klaus Schwab] is the one telling Biden what to say and do."

Really? I'll be sure to let the repubs who were claiming it is Obama who is allegedly controlling Biden know that its actually not Obama. What is your source on that though? Trust me bro?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 3 replies
You must live in NYC or San Francisco or some other liberal enclave.  Once you get out into the real world that world view of Trump's unpopularity will crumble to the ground.  That's just how it is.  Trump will win the next election in a landslide if you think you can get away with cheating again.

Biden has the lowest approval rating ever.  He's an absolute embarrassment.  They have to pump him full of drugs just to keep him lucid enough to deliver a speech.

Then there's the RFK factor.  He's going to pull away the thinking Democrats.  They finally have been given a voice.  There's not enough of them for RFK to win.  The braindead, do-what-your-told Democrats still out number the thinking Democrats.

Even though most Dems are disappointed with Biden they've been told to vote against Trump as if your life depended on it.  But that still won't be enough to overtake Trump.  And all of your bogus indictments have only backfired on you.  It's made him more popular.  Especially in the black community.  They can see when someone is being railroaded because the Democrats have been doing that to blacks forever.  BTW Trump got the most black votes of any Republican prior to him.

Tax breaks for the rich is such a specious statement.  This nation was founded as a tax free nation.  It wasn't until that racist, communist idiot, Woodrow Wilson forced the Marxist taxation and control scheme on us.  IF the rich are actually getting any tax breaks from the Republicans then good for them.  At least someone's getting a tax break.   Everyone is long overdue for a 100% permanent tax break.

Taxation is theft!  Taxation is slavery!

Tax breaks are never unpopular.  You seriously think America wants less of what they work their butts off for?  More taxation is only popular with the braindead left.

When we work for someone they pay us for our labor.  That money does not belong to the government.  They did nothing to earn it.
darko_yolo
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
"Woah!!! 1987??? Are you sure about that?" 

Yes.

As I said... his political affiliation changes with the wind. Meanwhile he decides whether a life-long republican is a legit republican or not. 

As far as gun stuff, ya he also banned bump stocks. 

"When has a former president been treated like this?"

When his university got shut down in 2011....... was that also a "liberal judge" "mistreating" him?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
0 ups, 1y
Well I think I have been pretty clear that Trump's not my favorite president.  If I haven't said it to you, I said it to a bunch of other people on ImgFlip.

I never looked into when Trump became a Republican nor do I really care because it changes nothing.  In fact, I'm not even a Republican.  I'm registered with the Constitution Party.  And Republican does not mean conservative.  There is some overlap between the two groups but far too many Republicans are liberals.  Some are masters at deception, like Newt Gingrich.  Newt could word a phrase in such a way that you would think he was hard core conservative but if you paid attention to what he was actually saying he was a liberal.

I just assumed he became a Republican just prior to running.  When he was first campaigning he sounded exactly like a liberal trying to fake being a conservative.  He campaigned for government run healthcare when he started his campaign and for some reason that didn't send the conservatives in the Republican Party running.

I was so disappointed with the Republican Party when they nominated Trump.  I thought that the conservatives in the party could see through his facade.  I could and I ain't nobody special.  My wife could see it also and she is somebody special, to me anyway.

I never liked Trump but no matter how bad Trump is there are absolutely no Democrats that even come close to being as good as Trump.  None and the proof is in Joe Biden's pudding, or is that ice cream.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
You voted for him in 2020 when he lost.... but you did not vote for him in 2016.. because "he was a loser"... when he won. 😂 

Trumps political affiliation changes with the wind. Since registering as a republican in 1987 his political affiliation has changed 5 times. That's why it's so interesting to see people who have been republicans their entire life labeled as "RINOs" for not marching lockstep with that guy. 

"Trump hasn't committed any crimes." Bold stance considering his university & charity got shut down, his organization was found guilty of fraud, and he is currently under 4 indictments. That being said I'd be also surprised to see him do any jail time.

Also... to touch back on republican policy being unpopular in America.... Trump won Ohio by roughly half a million votes in 2020 yet they recently voted to PROTECT abortion rights. 

"Dems are weak therefore Russia attacked ukraine" meanwhile Republicans were ready to cuck right away and let Russia take over.... Ya i guess that'd be one way to end it in 24hrs. 🙄 

"He is a blithering idiot. He makes stuff up on the fly and lies his butt off just to make himself sound better than he is. "

Ya ya ya what else do you have to say about Biden.... Criminal? Corrupt? Racist? Mentally unfit? An embarassment to America? It's like you're copying verbatim lefty criticisms of trump from 7 years ago.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
"You voted for him in 2020 when he lost.... but you did not vote for him in 2016.. because 'he was a loser'... when he won"

Score 1 for darko_yolo.  Yep, I kind of stepped in that one didn't I?  Well if it is any consolation I held my nose real hard when I voted for Trump in 2020.

Woah!!!  1987???  Are you sure about that?  I think it was more like the early 2010's.  He was a full on Democrat prior to the 2010's.  He even supported Clintons (unconstitutional) "assault" weapons ban.  Even when Trump was president he stated his support for Red Flag laws.  Those are laws that anyone can report anyone for being "unstable" and owning a firearm.  The police will then confiscate the firearm(s) and hold them while they investigate the instability claim.  After that it takes an act of Congress to get your private property that was stolen by the government back.  All because some nitwit hates guns.  Now clearly Red Flag laws are sold as someone to reporting someone who is an actual threat to themselves or others.  But it opens itself up for major abuse.  It will be used by bedwetting liberals, who hate guns, to harass law-abiding citizens.

Yes it is a bold statement.  But Trump will not be found guilty of any of them because the cases are super flimsy.  When was the last time you ever saw a former president get this kind of treatment?  Every single indictment came from a liberal judge.  This is not prosecution, this is persecution.  This is how the left thinks they will stop Trump from winning the election.  It has absolutely nothing to do with any actual crime, it is all about stopping Trump and they are using the legal system to try to accomplish this.  He's being railroaded.

Each case is just as valid has the Hillary fabricated Russia collusion nonsense.  They are just as fabricated as both of those impeachments the Dems put Trump through.

I have no problem with the law throwing any politician in prison if they break the law.  I don't care who the politician is, if they break the law then throw the book very hard at them.  They should automatically get the maximum sentence allowed for the crime all the way up to the death penalty depending on the crime.

But to railroad a politician and to turn our legal system into a sham just to stop Trump from running again is a new low.  I guess that is what you can expect from the party that committed massive voter fraud in 2020 to put their puppet in the White House.
darko_yolo
1 up, 1y, 1 reply
I have friends and family spread all over America. One of the few people I do know who voted for the donald the first time in 2016 expressed voter remorse after the fact. Their vote was not necessarily a vote FOR trump in the first place though.... it was more of a vote against Hillary.

I won't make any predictions as far as who will win the election a full year from now. Trump could be in jail by that time, Biden could stroke out like McConnell, or vice versa or both. Who knows.

Old people in general have to be pumped full of drugs to remain alive and Biden is old as dirt. Many in our government are. 

"IF the rich are actually getting any tax breaks from the Republicans.."

What???? Have you not been paying attention? I thought that was supposed to be one of the big trump "wins". He gave the rich "permanent" corporate tax cuts. Claimed it would spur some amount of GDP growth. It never did. The tax cut $$ by and large went back into corporate pockets of the rich via stock buy backs. 

Tax breaks only "work" in countries if you either cut funding elsewhere or increase tax revenue. Taxes fund our government, the police, etc. No taxes = anarchy. Chaos. I guess Antifa would approve. The right would probably also approve because then they could just shoot Antifa.... as well as the democrats, trans people, poor people and elderly people who depend on the government.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y
I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because I he was a loser.  He hadn't gotten over his Democrat upbringing and pretty much had to be schooled on the job by the Republicans.  I did vote for him in 2020 because I've known about Biden for decades.  He is a blithering idiot.  He makes stuff up on the fly and lies his butt off just to make himself sound better than he is.  And then he went senile but the Dems hated Trump with such passion they could not see what a disaster Biden was.

I have friends and family all over America also.  Only one or two that I know of are Democrats.  My brother was a Democrat until Obama ran for president the second time.  I still can't convince him that Reagan was the best in my life time.  He left the Democrat party as fast as he could after the mess Obama made in his first term.  He's a total Trump guy now.  I wanted Cruz to win the primary, in 2016, because he was the closest thing to Reagan and Coolidge to come along since Reagan and Coolidge.  I want Ramaswamy or DeSantis to win the primaries in 2024.  I really do not want Trump back in the White House but I will gladly take him over ANY Democrat.  The Democrats are just wrong on everything.

I seriously doubt Trump will be in jail but even so there is no law that prevents a president from running the country from jail.  And he would just pardon himself.  Trump hasn't committed any crimes.  Everything the Dems are pushing on him is made up.  They are trying everything in their power to stop Trump because they know he will win in 2024.  It is inevitable.  Biden couldn't beat him in 2020 and he has much less support now.

If you are going to vote for a liberal then vote for Robert F Kennedy Jr.  He and Tulsi Gabbards are the ONLY liberals who think for themselves.  RFK is an old school liberal from the era when libs still loved the country.  I would never vote for him but he at least has common sense, unlike that twit illegally occupying the White House right now and his bimbo vice president.  Oh man... if you guys ever put Harris in the White House this country is history.  Every nation on the planet who hates us will see this as the best opportunity they have ever had to wipe us off the planet.  They know Dems are weak and that is why they do things like attack Ukraine and attack Israel.  But with Harris they'll focus all of their hatred on us directly.
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
post it
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
2 ups, 1y, 1 reply
Are you selling Post-It notepads today?
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
No proof, huh? shocker.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y, 2 replies
Giving you proof would be too easy.  You have to work for it.  You have to earn it.  What have you done to find the proof?

Let's say I gave you all the proof necessary, would you belief it?  Would you change your mind?
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AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y, 5 replies
Ah... I see.  Back to calling me a liar are we?

You've seen gobs of proof posted on ImgFlip and you just brush it off as "fake news".  The problem is not that I am a liar, the problem is prefer to believe lies.  That's why you're still holding on the Trump/Russia collusion scam invented by Hillary Clinton.
Modda
1 up, 1y
oh no, you're using my lines on me!
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AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
It's kinds of boring.  You keep lobbing missiles at me but I just swat them away.  Where's the old Modda?  Where's all of those sepia toned pictures of women with freaky eyes?

Speaking of which.  Whatever happened to that one dude who kept posting memes of the actor, Stanley Tucci, from the Hunger Games movies?  He just disappeared.  I guess you can only use Stanley Tucci's image just so many times before it just gets old.
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
No. It may be a Britishism to you, but not over here it is.

Still waiting for your supposed 'proof'
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
That's because you live in the Bronx.  They're ain't no Brits there.  They'd have to be crazy to live there.
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
"we"?

Indulge me, post it. 

I'll wait.
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
"we".  It's a Britishism.  Read that sentence again with a British accent.  It makes more sense that way.

I'm sure you seen it in your profiles that you keep on all of us conservatives.  You already have it, why should I send it again?

What are you waiting for?  Are you waiting for some liberal talking head to validate what we have been telling you all along?

Where's your proof of fraud in the 2016 and 2000 elections?  Dems were making wild accusations of voter fraud on both of those elections.  And the crazy thing with the 2016 election, if the actually looked into that election they would have seen fraud and lots of it.  Hillary didn't get that many actual votes.  Everyone hates her.  She is probably the most corrupt politician we've ever had run for president.  She lost in a landslide if you counted the real votes and not the bogus ones.
Modda
0 ups, 1y, 1 reply
All those people dead, and you call it boring?
AdamSmithsInvisibleHand
1 up, 1y
Who'd you kill?
Modda
0 ups, 1y
No, it wouldn't be, hence why you didn't - nay, can't - do it.
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