Yes, Taxation is Theft. No, I Don't Care What The Intent Is!

Are you sure? Because the intent is things like having schools which is quite a thing to tell everyone you don't care about.

I was once a student in public school for a while. Perhaps if the American Education system was worth a shit there would be an argument to be had. I firmly believe in education, whether it's from family, life itself, or a school of some kind. Personal Education is far too important to leave in the Government's hands.

Well, if it's the quality of the schools that bothers you, you DEFINITELY want to increase tax spending on education.

Zero taxes means you'd have had no formal education at all back then.

If money alone solved the problem, then America's education system would be the best in the world.

Now that I think of it, do kids today even need schools? The primary role of education is the acquisition of knowledge to apply towards an end goal. Whether that's a skill, a trade, a hobby, or making lots of money, being educated in that area is all but required. As for the knowledge, the internet or even local libraries can offer the specialized insight that the monolithic structure of public schools simply do not possess.

If you throw more money at a bad blueprint, you will just multiply the undesirable results.

In the United States, K-12 schools spend about $612.7 billion annually. This is about $12,612 per pupil. Federal, state, and local governments spend about $720.9 billion annually or $14,840 per pupil. The federal government provides 7.7% of funding, state governments provide 46.7%, and local governments provide 45.6%. On average, the U.S. spends $15,908 per pupil on postsecondary education and $33,063 per pupil on graduate and postgraduate education. The United States allocates about 11.6% of public funding to education, below the international standard of 15%, and spends about 4.96% of its GDP on education, compared to the 5.59% average of other developed nations. The U.S. spends the fifth-highest amount per pupil compared to the 37 other OECD countries, behind Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, and Norway.

School janitors typically make more money than most teachers do.... Let that sink in,,,

The United States ranks 65th in countries by educational spending. We're not even close to making maximum effort on education.

Educators are the weak link in the academic chain.

FACT

Based in what metrics?

Dollars in does not equal quality out.

Federal subsidies = mediocre/sub standard

+State subsidies = mediocre/substandard

+Local tax levies = mediocre/substandard

+Lottery money = mediocre/substandard

+ ??? = mediocre/substandard

Much like more police doesn't equal less crime
(Police react to crime, they don't prevent crime)
more money will not create excellent education.

Why not?

No incentive for teachers to do good, overcrowded classrooms, bureaucratic bloat, etc...etc...

They get paid more than enough to do their one job.

They knew the pay prior to accepting employment.

Any think they don't should resign and get a different job that pays them what they are worth.

Class size has been regulated for about 20 years +/-.

While were talking about it ... if they don't think they get adequate compensation to teach a subject, why do they take on the additional burden of grooming other people's children without their knowledge or consent?

I wasn't talking about pay. Teachers can literally do nothing and they get paid because of the union contracts. They have no incentive at all to teach well. If their pay was based on how many of their students passed independent testing based on a percentage, I bet a lot more students would learn something.

Class size has been regulated but not followed ever. The regulation is around 20 students per teacher, but they routinely put 30+ in each classroom.

The bureaucracy in the classroom is ridiculous. If you compare home schooling costs per student to public school costs you'll see that public schools are almost twice as much. Remove the building and lighting bills, and it's still much more expensive by thousands of dollars each.

I disagree with none of that.

My experience has been 28 students and that is cap.

But lazy, complacent, "teachers" soaking up paychecks and not giving anyone living in America their money's worth.

I do not care about schools.

We already know. Don't worry about it.

He's the one who claimed he got a PhD by passing his finals, sans dissertation, right?

No. You were the one(s) who took an off the cuff comment out of context.

You are the one(s) that refused to state what you would accept as proof because you didn't want have to swallow crow.

Typical LLD behavior.

You have nothing of value to say. Just the same, tired, parrot like, blabbering day after day.

Oh yeah! Forgot about that.

Well, I guess this is as close to an admission as any that he never went to grad school.