Victor Stenger

true Christianity doesn't fly you into buildings ;:)

Nah, it just flies grown men into young boys

🤣Based on all the rape and child abuse in the bible it could be interpreted as god's will.

"Don't worry my child, that's just ectoplasm from the holy ghost. The spirit is in you!"

0-0 oh dear

Well, science failed with the first try … and people still don’t know why (big science lie, b.t.w.)

Big lie about science? That sounds about right.

The biggest difference between science and religion is that when science fails, it learns from its mistakes and keeps trying to get it right.

In principle you are right, but the problem is that (buggy) so-called science has become something like a religion itself - they do not want to see some huge mistakes….

It's highly counter-productive when scientists--due to ego or simple closed-mindedness--resist advancements to their respective feilds of study. It sets back scientific progress and harms the credibility of science as a whole.

Scentific understanding is very much a work in progress, requiring both faith that it represents the most accurate explanation of a given subject, as well as a willingness to accept refinements and revisions as further evidence becomes available.

I absolutely agree, but the sad truth is that most so-called scientist are more worried about their ego than about their subject.

What are the names of these scientists you're describing?

but religion doesn't fail >:)

Fake religion does.

true... like Muslims 0-0? I mean you know a religion is fake when it's always causing violence and making women do stupid crap. being Jewish is an exception because they are all very pacifist nowadays and the woman actually have some rights, the problem is, they still think Jesus hasn't come yet 0-0.

I correct myself: false religion. Any sincerely held belief is valid, so no matter how stupid the shit people believe happens to be, it's still very much real to them. What really matters is what they do with that belief.

as a Christian, I cannot agree, but you are right in one way. I'd rather they believe in the wrong god instead of believing there is no point in living here because someday they might feel empty in their religion, and find Christianity, the only true religion.

I'd quibble about a lack of faith in god equating to a belief that there is no point in living, but the fact that you believe in god means your opinion in this area is at best ill-informed. I'll instead ask for clarification in an area with which you claim to have personal experience: which christianity, catholic or protestant? There can be only one true faith, so which is it?

Catholic's is messed up. The Catholic Church, if I may simplify it, all revolves around random old dudes and only the old dudes can have anything to say about the bible, it's a lot like a cult. but protestant actually follows Jesus's message of acceptance and how sinners deserve god as much as anyone else. being that you are an atheist, I assume that you are Liberal, because who gives a crap about tradition if there's no moral compass. if I am wrong, elaborate to me why you chose to be conservative. back on topic, I am not liberal, but I still believe everyone has a place in the church, even people who are trans. but seeking god means giving up sin, and not making everyone else support your decisions (which is why I strongly hate LGBTQ marriage in a church). and Catholicism seems very exclusive and serious, the exact opposite of Jesus.

Oof, a lot to unpack there. Not really interested in critiquing your assumptions about liberalism, atheism, morality, etc. but I'm glad you shared your assessment of Catholicism vs Protestantism. If you consider the Catholic church cult-like, that pretty much answers my followup question about Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses. (I am a bit perplexed by your intimation that Protestantism isn't serious.)

The next obvious question is, how do we know that God has a preference for the manner in which he is worshiped?

but Buddhists are great because the entire religion is mostly pacifism and Idealism, which although it isn't a great structure, at least they live good lives. this is why Christianity is the best religion, not only is Jesus in Buddhism and the Islamic religion, they both say he is a way to heaven. but Jesus says he is the only way, which is ironic because Muslims believe that he is a prophet, and claiming to be the son of god would make you a terrible prophet (so he's gotta be the messiah)