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I think there's some truth to what you're saying - but a reasonable discussion needs to be had, relative to our nation's shameful 200+ year history of overt racism - and the historical legacy and impacts of that history.

I don't know what CRT really is (as being advanced in our school systems) - but I do know what American History is, and Ethnic Studies are... And there's nothing wrong with teaching them.

We need to find a way to HEAL these long-standing and persistent injuries - and before that's possible, we have to agree to look at them, honestly. Capitalism is like a foot race. One group was held at the starting line for several hundred years - then allowed to run, with chains still holding them down.

https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2018/02/26/tulsa-race-riot-commission-is-causing-division-in-tulsa/

And that's just one small panel on a huge quilt...

I feel like if we all try to turn down the temperature a little bit, and shed light, rather than heat... Then maybe we can address the issues of today, that result from yesterday's injuries, and even today's.

Not really. The "blame whitey" people are mostly white liberals. There's some black who go along with that.

White liberals are all racists. They can't even see how obsessed they are with race. They think they are on the right side of it but they let it slip all the time. They genuinely think blacks are too stupid to function in society without them.

And sometimes, when completely unprovoked...

Pretty much. It's a kinda Manichean worldview, don'tcha think? Though I think it's probably unhelpful to go around pointing out all the racist assumptions and attitudes in America, on both sides of the aisle.

There is no "us and them" - only "us". I don't know if you saw what I wrote as response to this meme, on the page, above... Racism is an ugly and persistent human trait. It probably exists on a primal level, as a remnant of kinship identification. But it has social components as well. The meme has a bit of truth, in that the climate being fostered (for political purposes), tends to divide people, rather than uniting us towards a common purpose. As the sh_t hits the fan economically, we're going to be that much more susceptible to those kinds of impulses - and that will likely lead to dangerous trends in politics, from both sides of the monoparty blob.

One upside of the Plandemic, for me, was that it put me into contact with a much broader political coalition, with all of us resisting the tyrranical mandates, which come ultimately from the Bank of International Settlements, and down through the WEF and WHO, to your local political classes (but around the world). It helped me to see the humanity of a whole swath of folks with whom I've never had much in common. Yes - see them in real terms, even the ugly parts. But seeing the humanity in those who oppose you is an elevating thing. If you listen closely to the Rev. MLK Jr. - he talked an awful lot about it. "Hate can't drive out hate, only love can do that". If I could ask anything of all sides in these debates, it would be that we try to employ some strategic empathy.

Dude, I’m a Republican conservative. I have no us v them viewpoint. I am one of the few Republican conservatives on this site that actually posts facts and displays basic logic and I’m shit on by Republican liberal trump supporters that echo the old racist southern democrats values and goals. Proposing Jim Crow after Jim Crow law to tighten the liberty of the individual under the disguise of security and patriotism. Something we should’ve learned under W. Bush.

I don’t hate anybody. What I hate are incredibly displays of ignorance and the pursuance of validation as if it were the truth. This constant political confirmation bias bores me. The opposition on this site has been bullied and shoved into it’s own stream by the very same malicious members who try to pretend I’m not one of them simply because I objectively evaluate Trump to be an incompetent establishment puppet who only seems remotely interesting because he is a walking, talking, meme machine and nothing more. He says usually nothing, and when he does actually say something he is either wrong or lying. Drain the swamp? He filled it with more sewage. He openly admitted this and then said, “he knew the wrong people” but he knows now. And I call bullshit.

We’d be better off with DeSantis and even he wouldn’t be my first pick.

DeSantis has done good work on rejecting the lethal injections. He's kinda awful on Foreign/Imperial Policy - and his history with Torture and Guantanamo scares me... Any chance we could agree on a National Unity Government, under a Bobby Jr?

Well if it's intramural - then go ahead and call 'em racists... Maybe they'll listen to you. In my experience it tends to harden folks and cause defensiveness - particularly when it comes from their political opponents.

You seem to have solid assessment on Trump.

I haven't been spending much time on the site, since they went over to streams. So I haven't been paying much attention. Nice to 'meet you'.

This meme is the work of Iain Davis. It explains why the political class all are largely indistinguishable - and the wedge issues are mostly iconographic policy that makes no real difference to the people in charge.

It isn’t intrumural, it’s an observation. The only accurate statement, maybe, is that a majority of white people aren’t racist. Which is not quantifiable so it is mere conjecture than fact.

I could care less what racists think. I care more about the kind of policies they propose, support, and pass into legislation. It’s unconstitutional and if it takes 5 years or 5 decades, it’ll be eventually overruled.

Iain Davis sounds like just another snake oil salesman like Trump. Pseudopandenic? Sounds pseudo-intellectual.

As are most antivaxxers. What started as an innocent movement of wanting to know facts, and ease the amount of shots a baby had to endure; quickly morphed into this monster that all vaccines are bad and the drugs the government WANTS to give you are either too expensive or lethal.

As for Bobby Jr. We need another Kennedy like JFK needs another hole in the head.

I mean no offense, that is just my opinion.

Yeah - Pseudo Pandemic because it was a series of BioWarfare attacks - that was declared a pandemic - before it came anywhere near the criteria. The disease kills a tiny fraction of the infected, and that's without even disambiguation of the people killed by LETHAL therapies like Remdesivir and Ventilators and propofol. And with access to lifesaving treatments like Ivermectin and HCq and inhaled Budesonide - those numbers shrink considerably.

The response plans were based in the Rockefeller Foundation's "LOCKSTEP" scenario for increased social control - not any kind of actual science (except perhaps the science of coercion). Event201 was a last minute "exercise" - as the BioWeapon was being released in China. It looks very much like it was given a 'quiet open' and a soft roll-out, here, in the Summer of 2019.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/07/17/third-person-has-died-after-respiratory-illness-outbreak-greenspring-village-fairfax-officials-say/

And don't forget "Mysterious Vaping Illness" - an unsolved mystery, with all the same symptoms - used to conveniently advance a campaign that had already been prepared against vape-world.

You might be amazed to find out that completely unjabbed kids have far better health outcomes than jabbed ones do. Children's Health Defense's research director, Brian Hooker PhD, has all the data. And the point that most people miss - is that we have an enormous increase in autism and allergies and other side effects from the toxic "adjuvants" in vaccines, from the 1950's - kicking into high gear from the 70's and 80's forward, in tandem with an exploding vaccination schedule. Mercury and formaldehyde and aluminum are all toxic AF. An interesting film on the subject is called "Trace Amounts".

The term "Anti-Vaxxer" isn't just a thought-terminating cliché... it's a focus-group-tested, Neuro-Linguistic Programming buzzword. BigPfharma has worked hard to propagate it, and turn it into a dismissive perjorative and an epithet - similar to the way the CIA did that with "Conspiracy Theorist". In both cases, it's highly weaponized language, designed to marginalize anyone who's caught-on to them, and contain the damage that their telling the truth might do.

Racism can be distinguished from mere bigotry, in that it's a whole system of power relationships. A black guy may be bigoted against white people - but he can't prevent them from getting equal access to loans and housing.

How bout Cynthia McKinney?

Oxford Dictionary, definition of an epidemic is a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.

A pandemic is defined as a disease that spreads over a whole country or the whole world.

The first confirmed report of the novelty coronavirus that would become known as Covid-19 was first reported in Wuhan, China on December 31st, 2019.

The first confirmed reported case of Covid on US soil was January 18th, 2020 in Washington state.

By February 21st, nine European countries reported 47 cases of the Covid-19 virus.

It was first declared a pandemic on March 11th, 2020.

How exactly did it not meet the criteria of a pandemic if by then the virus had traveled around the world?

Almost nothing you said was factual so, I’ll point out when you said a fact instead.

Rockefeller foundation did release possible scenarios but the lockstep scenario nor the proposed responses bear no resemblance to the covid pandemic.

There was an outbreak in Virginia at a retirement community in the summer of 2019. Not only did the fatality rate not match the covid-19 virus; the CDC could not determine if the illness was viral or bacterial. While they could not identify the cause that doesn’t mean they had a virus. If they did, then the cause would be known.

You’re compelling need to link irrelevant or incomplete facts do not make your conjectures facts.

Brian Hooker PhD does not have all the data. What he does have is evidence likely tampered with his own confirmation bias. A bias as obvious as belonging to a private organization such as Children's Health Defense which likely receives funding for research into validating how unsafe parents believe vaccines to be would be strictly a conflict of interest. No research that supposedly validates their claims, no funding. Neat how that works, huh?

Whether or not Antivaxxer or Conspiracy Theorist terms originated from narrative driven sources or not, if it looks like a duck, then it’s a duck. At least an antivaxxer can at least renounce the title only by stating SOME vaccines are safe, harmless, necessary. But you believe just one conspiracy theory and you’re a conspiracy theorist. Even if the theory is proven true.

Regardless, these nefarious labels do not make these people more right or somehow vindicate any erroneous facts utilized unwittingly or vindictively to further an agenda.

Racism is a subset of bigotry. People can be biggoted toward black people and be called racist. They can argue about it all they like with the people who called them out. Claim things like reverse-racism, colorism, or bigotry; but at the end of the day it’s the people who preyed upon by their bigotry by politicians who wish to exploit them. He doesn’t poll well with black voters AND a string of riots break out in mostly black communities. The rest of the community, stupidly, turn to government to solve their problems and they reduce free speech and protest rights so they can lock up these so-called threats to their community. You don’t even have to be white. You can even be black and support these same legislations because they, of course, don’t word it that way. But one January 6th, later…

Cynthia McKinney? for President?

Third parties are for suckers. For someone who claims the government exerts control over the people, you’d think you know it would be pointless to vote third party in Presidential races by now.

They’re only viable locally in elections for state representatives or federal representation by state.

That’s an interpretation of the document, not a summary. Show me the real document and I’ll show you they’re nothing but vaguely similar but not at all what you claim.

The only similarities, and these are still a stretch, are that it was a global pandemic and that a global crisis impacted the global economy. Shocker! It’s not Nostradamus prediction nor an outline in how to approach or even construct the scenario.

I can't reply to your question there, so I'll answer here. The definition of Pandemic has been changed - just like the definition of Vaccine - to serve the agendas already being advanced. You say "spread" - I say "was released". The decision was made at the WEF gathering in January of 2020 - when almost nobody had it outside of China. And lucky them, because it served the "AgendaID 2020" plan (that's your social credit score/ID/VaxxPort/permanent record - all rolled into one) that they had announced publicly in 2016...so I guess those coincidences and serendipities all just amount to incredibly good luck.

The US Government sure was on top of things going on in China, too...while they were not-so-quietly launching a Hybrid War against them.

https://www.rt.com/news/486072-us-intelligence-israel-coronavirus/

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-19-cdc-was-hiring-quarantine-program-managers-november.html

A pretty smart guy that I used to interview on occasion has written a whole book on the story... You might learn quite a bit from reading it, I think. Professor Michel Chossoudovsky of GlobalResearch.ca.

https://store.globalresearch.ca/store/the-worldwide-corona-crisis-global-coup-d%C3%A9tat-against-humanity/

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-interview-the-worldwide-corona-crisis-global-coup-detat-against-humanity-michel-chossudovsky/5800145- there's a link to a free PDF copy there, I'm not sure if that's still active.

The fact is ... Bill Gates isn't a Doctor or a philanthropist. He's a Eugenicist/Transhumanist, who speaks gleefully of Global Depopulation. If he thought these vaccines were good for you - he wouldn't want you to have them. He's a member of the Pilgrim Society, and has long been an appendage of the Elite Occultists and the Intelligence Community - in short, he's a Philanthropath.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/30/is-it-time-to-launch-an-investigation-into-the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-for-possible-crimes-against-humanity

Those numbers you were citing, hardly speak to prevalence. And I guess Covid cured the flu, instantly - because those numbers just disappeared as soon as it was announced.

I'm pretty sure that I'd had it in December of 2019. Everyone wants to point towards China... What about the "Lab leak" that allegedly shut down Ft. Detrick in August 2019? I recall hearing people speaking about something pretty bad, that was going around amongst us, from Summer/Fall of 2019 forward.

What was the original definition of pandemic? And please use a source to back up your claim.

LOCKSTEP was a plan to clamp down on a global basis - written as a scenario. The plan is already being put into place. Biden's Regime proposed Amendments to the "International Health Regulations" - already ratified by nearly every country on Earth. There's no need for any ratification by anyone - just silence - and that's why you probably haven't heard a word about it. If you've heard about the "Pandemic Treaty" - that's a miracle - but while useful, that's a distraction from the IHR Amendments. Once the latter go into effect - the former is just icing on the cake... And they'll release another BioWeapon, for good measure, synched up to grease the skids... "Catastrophic Contagion", anyone? Just because the specifics of the scenario aren't a perfect match, isn't surprising... it's like a "contingency plan". OPERATION NORTHWOODS and "9/11" weren't a perfect match, either...but if you can't see how they're related in concept and objectives, I don't know what to say to you.

Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Jesse Ventura - all think that YOU'RE a sucker. Where'd the Whigs go?

You seem incredibly credulous and NAIVE about the CDC - which is an active part of "the Intelligence Community" - and works hand in hand with the CIA and Pentagon's BioWarfare apparatus.

http://dilyana.bg/project-g-2101-pentagon-biolab-discovered-mers-and-sars-like-coronaviruses-in-bats/

The original definition of Pandemic had percentages of the population, and I think some talk of fatality rates... None of which applied at any point. I don't have the link handy - try your link + the Wayback machine. And again - you're failing to notice the LETHAL protocols put in place - and denial of cheap, safe, EFFECTIVE treatment options.

And the stats are garbage too. It's weird how the USA has some of the worst Case fatality numbers, huh? You're a conservative - maybe look up Atty. Jeff Childers of the "Covid and Coffee" blog. He's smart, funny, and very well informed. He'll point to Fell off a Roof Covid deaths...traffic accidents, gunshots. "With" and "of" aren't the same thing. Drs Fareed and Tyson treated 7000 patients - with 0 deaths.

Brian Hooker is a PhD - argue with his data - not your contempt prior to investigation/ad hominem tu quoque fallacy. The data is easily visible in Emergency Room visit stats and lack of side effects. But you want to argue - try it with HIM - or Steve Kirsch... I dare you.

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