Things that make you go hmmm

And someone who actually believes what's in the bible would be a sociopath if they worshipped a god who kills millions of innocent people just...because.

Shut the f**k up

Yes, this. Hypothetical thought is a higher order mental activity often anathema to fundamentalism. Curious, since dogma is supposed to be a matter of "faith", the subject of which is necessarily hypothetical in the first place.

Nope, KTG's got you there, you can't on one hand say God doesn't exist and then on the other hand say he killed a kajillion bajillion people.

You can but you never do 😀

I do. The imaginary god of the Bible only killed imaginary people.

Abby isn't a woman unless you're referring to me, how's it going Kev?

Lol. And you call me self centred.

atheists: God doesn't exist. Full stop.

also atheists: He's a terrible, terrible being and you're a terrible person for believing an irrelevant book written by stupid people centuries ago

Yes of course. What part of Christ Jesus' teachings which CHRISTIANS are supposed to follow is bad in your opinion? Old Testament aside since Jesus came to fulfill the prophesies of that time not perpetuate its problems and His sacrifice renewed mankind. Atheists seem to obsess about a few exaggerated, sometimes hyperbolic stories which may or may have not happened in the OT while totally ignoring the New. My church is founded on Gospel principles not Leviticus, or some chapter in Genesis principles.

Check out who is morally superior to Jesus Christ Himself God made Man. That's a level of arrogance I didn't know you were capable of. Please list here all of His sins oh irreproachable one.

A long diatribe from a fellow atheist who totally misinterprets every scripture passage mentioned is your source for discrediting everything Jesus said? Ok then.

You take all of scripture literally like the extreme churches that drink poison huh? Have you ever participated in a scripture study or read scripture scholars who do exegesis on passages like this taking into account the culture of Jesus' time, the literary forms used, the differences in translation from the original Greek and Hebrew which we just glancing at an English translation might not understand? You might spend your time on those rather than atheists just ranting. I can get you started.

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From what I've read in many studies of scripture in different denominations the "hate your mother, father etc" is actually hyperbole, translated it could mean you can't love mere humans more than God (which is Himself) i like Brant Pitre's explaination for many of these difficult passages https://youtu.be/aMDnoAGCrRA

Jesus tended to use imagery to shock his audience, get them thinking, do i think it would have been better for Him to just speak plainly to eliminate confusion? Sure but how could I possibly know what that would look like across the centuries for millions of people speaking thousands of languages? I trust the Son of God knew what He was saying and for those who actually ponder scripture with a humble and prayerful heart the meaning becomes clear it is not clear for the arrogant.

Bad teachings of Jesus such as? Judaism exists because of the OT when are you going to start criticising them? Christianity has roots in Judaism but we never followed the rules of Leviticus or Deuteronomy like they used to (I suppose there's still orthodox sects of Judaism that still do though I don't know of any stonings recently, check the Muslims for that) and this isn't a whataboutism, we're talking about old and new testament testament religions.

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

There have been countless people throughout history who have literally sold their possessions, left their families behind, and become monks and nuns. Is that what Jesus would have wanted them to literally do?

I did and it was the best experience of my life. Christians aren't the only ones who do that either.

If God told me to do something extreme, such as? It's called discernment of spirits. And I've been inspired and tempted throughout my life to do good or bad things but you learn to not act on every impulse that pops into your head. You should know that. You might be tempted to run over a person on the sidewalk, a crazy person would say God told them to do it.

Show me the Christian religions that take everything in scripture literally and I'll bet you they're the fringe ones drinking poison and holding snakes and possibly plucking out their right eyes.

I believe we were given the Catholic Church directly by Jesus to interpret the scriptures as He intended with logic and reason (of course, not everyone thinks so and that's why there's been disagreements)

Is drinking alcohol ever okay? Yes,
Is circumcision necessary? No, Baptism replaced that.
Is divorce and remarriage a sin? Depends on the circumstance.
Will suicide keep you from going to heaven? Not necessarily,
What does blasphemy of the Holy Spirit actually mean? Basically doubting the mercy of God, thinking your sin is greater than God could ever forgive and presuming you know more than He does.
Is warfare ever acceptable? Yes, just war theory.
Who should be allowed to be in positions of church leader ship? That would depend on the role, time, place, suitability of the candidate to fill the role if they have a true calling.
Which day is the correct Sabbath? Sunday the day of Christ's Resurrection

The Catholic church talks at length about each of these things and hasn't changed all that much since it's beginning in 33AD it's protestant churches that decided they didn't agree and took out Bible passages to match the lifestyle they wanted.

It's because Sacred Scripture isn't clear that the Catholic church depends also on Sacred Tradition which was passed down by Jesus to the Apostles (not everything He said was written down) and down through each Pope and Bishop in unbroken succesion for thousands of years. The confusion has come from those who broke off from the Catholic church.

You've openly admitted that you haven't actually read the bible...even though you spend hours every day here.

Maybe leave the bible-talk to the people who actually know what they're talking about. Nobody cares about your feelings.

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Let’s not talk about all the atheist sects like anything with socialism and communism and all the different views who have killed more people than anything in history

Bad choice of words, but communism and all that is based on the belief that there is no gods

All of them are based on a hatred of organized religion, which is basically what atheists believe also.

Some of us view organized religions as attempts to control and take advantage of individuals' legitimate spiritual experiences and growth.

Communism throws out all religion

False, Christians have killied more people than all other religions, ideologies, cultures, peoples, countries, etc in history COMBINED.
In fact, the British Empire alone has killed the most.

How many has the British empire killed?

100s of millions according to some accounts, more maybe?
Hard to tell, as this took place over 4 centuries, and record keeping is sketchy or non-existent and subject to bias and distortion.

100s of millions due to socialism and other ideas in which gods aren’t present

Correct, there weren't much in the way of Gods when the British became the biggest killing unit in history - that is, as an entity that isn't just the area of Christian Europe, which itself has killed more than all others COMBINED.

I didn’t really find Christian europe killing hundreds of millions of people. Sure, the Catholics killed a lot, and weren’t really Christian at the time, but hundreds of millions? No

Catholics invented Chrisitianity, so "weren’t really Christian at the time" is bogus.

Like the above, the rest of your statement displays historical ignorance.
Where do you live that you really aren't aware of Western history?

Please list resources here indicating Christians have killed more than any other group in the history of the universe. And please don't go and say Google it since you're such a wealth of knowledge on the topic.

I was referring to the time period in history when the Catholic Church wasn’t representing Christianity well and was corrupt at the time like the zealous Spanish Inquisition under the name of Catholicism. And Protestants aren’t out of that either. Both did stupid things like that in history

agreed. There's no church or human entity on earth that's not guilty of doing stupid things, unfortunately.

Exactly. It wasn’t an attack on the Catholic Church, but since modda brought it up, that was the example i used

No, not in any words whatsover, because I never said anything about Google.

And I do not need a reply that I already gave to a Protestant whose obvious ignorance of history includes religion. Like most so-called 'religious,' they know not what they pretend to preach, other than refer to minute bits of Genesis (and erroneously, on top of that) and Leviticus's infamous admonishment that the "Love thy neighbor" crowd would like to chisel on the tip of their AR-15 while they go hump their cousins in the barn?

Granted, Cock-Crows-Three Shimon/Petras was one helluva con man.
"Yeah, sure, I betrayed him, but then he told me when yous wasn't looking that he's cool with it and he's making me boss now."
The first ant-Christ to hijack the Word. The second anti-Christ was Saul/Paul, murderer of Christians, who knocked Peter off his crown and hijacked the Church from James, fulfilling prophecy by seating the Church in Rome, and proceeding to corrupt the Word beyond recognition and calling it their own while slaughtering God's CHOSEN for the next 2000 years.

PS: Satan never killed anyone nor did anything wrong, other than testting Job on behalf of Yahweh, which makes him a bit of a meanypants, I reckon. Oh, and according to Christians, telling Jesus to make himself some bread in the desert to go with that jug of wine because he was hungry. Some big sin for someone who sits with the other GodS at the Divine Council. Roman Pagan lies added by anti-Christs about Zoroastrain concepts of Satan don't count.

The source is called "History"

So in other words Google it because you're not going to list any actual books that you got these for sure true facts from, it's common knowledge that Christians are just a murderous bloodthirsty lot?

"Sure, the Catholics killed a lot, and weren’t really Christian at the time"

Interesting,,,

That wasn't a comment of mine, nor a claim i would ever make. The Catholic church considers itself the first Christians seeing as Peter the First Pope was given that title by Christ Himself. Christian means anyone who believes God became incarnate in Jesus. The term can be adopted by those who don't really act Christian though like those murderous types you keep bringing up.

It’s a debated topic whether who started the first church, but there was a time in the Catholic Church where they weren’t practicing very Christian beliefs until they fixed themselves,

Not "the," "an"

What part of murdering Christians then hiljacking the religion and warping it into something else did you not understand?

You’re saying that’s what Catholics did?

Correct, and that time began with the anti-Christ Saul/Paul and continues to this very day.

Why do you claim Paul to be the antichrist