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Ukraine and Russia ... like the movie Titanic, we already know the ending.

Ukraine and Russia ... like the movie Titanic, we already know the ending. | Sadly, Ukraine will ultimately fall.  It's only a matter of time. | image tagged in change my mind,ukraine,russia,vladimir putin,volodymyr zelenskyy,the world watches while ukraine burns | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 2y
Yes sadly...

"We’ve given over 90 Billion to Ukraine. That money could have bought housing for every Veteran, fed & sheltered the Homeless, help set up facilities for the mentally challenged, with change to spare. But THIS Govt does not believe in America or Americans first, only a NWO."
3 ups, 2y
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Doubt it.

A map like this makes Russia look crushingly dominant, but in population terms, Russia has only 144 million to Ukraine's roughly 44 million: Only about 3.2x the population. Ukraine is a big country and can take a hit, as it's demonstrated for months.

Add to that:

-Gross Russian battlefield incompetence, staggering losses, depleted morale and supplies, all summed up in a disturbing new phrase I just learned yesterday: "single-use soldiers" (not exactly the battlefield tactic of a winner)
-Russian front lines stalled in Bakhmut, on the retreat everywhere else, and digging in defensive lines
-Crippling international sanctions on Russia
-Ukraine's home-field advantage (knowledge of terrain, morale boost that comes from fighting a war for survival)
-Ukraine's substantial military and financial support from the West, vs. Russia's limited international assistance coming from dubious places like Iran and North Korea

Though it will take time, I feel the likeliest outcomes here are:

-A total Russian defeat and ejection from all or almost all of Ukraine's internationally-recognized borders (Crimea being a question-mark)
-A negotiated peace
-A stalemate and "frozen conflict," just like what had already existed in the Donbas since 2014, but at a larger scale
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12 HIMARS trucks were enough to take out the entire Russian advance by themselves. What do you think happens when that becomes 48 HIMARS trucks? What happens when the F-35 jets arrive in Ukraine in February?

Most of the assistance given to Ukraine hasn't even been deployed yet!!!

What are you so certain of? What piece of magic are we missing that an invading army that DIDN'T capture any of its major strategic objectives and in fact just lost its minor ones, and have lost half its experienced command force - what is the key information you know that war experts the world over have missed when they say that the clear winner here is Ukraine?
1 up, 2y,
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Needing to rely on Iranian drones, no less! And conscripts sent to battle with a mere 2 weeks training, many from farther corners of Russia still not too comfy with the yoke of that citizenship imposed upon them even two centuries later.

The question really is, by the end of this decade, how much of sMother Russia itself will be left, with the irritated minions catching the very splinter fever Poostain has sown around the globe? Does he really think they'd be inoculated against his favorite exported baccilus by the sheer grace of his scintillating awesomeoness?
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1 up, 2y,
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One would hope, but it is difficult for outsiders to appreciate just how bewildering popular Putin can actually be within Russia himself. Fingers crossed you're right.
0 ups, 2y
Ethnic Russians, yes, although as this shindig continues, then for how much longer?
On the outskirts, however, those who are Russians only because the map says so, no necessarily as much.
1 up, 2y
Sooner the better
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