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4 ups, 2y
Sounds like good moderation on the politics stream side, what's the issue? Oh, conservatives stream is still hosting it.
2 ups, 2y,
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This person is very wrong, but the same could easily be said about the far left hating BIPOC if they're conservatives (and they very much do), which, by your definition of "anti-Semitic" portrayed in this meme, makes the left openly racist.
1 up, 2y,
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If I hate a conservative who is a person of color it's because of what they stand for, not because of the color of their skin
1 up, 2y,
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I know so many democrats (some in my own family) that claim that democrats are the party of blacks because all blacks support them, but if you disprove it by mentioning black conservatives, they just assume they’re all stupid and dull (or they regurgitate whatever the media says about them) without even having heard them (which is my problem with the left, often they don’t listen to the other side, almost like it’s a fear of being convinced that they’ve been wrong). I listen to many people and politicians I don’t agree with (including Biden and Harris), and sometimes it drains my will to live, but I do it so I can actually argue points with people about the people they’re supporting instead of talking out of my “you-know-the-thing”.
If you’ve heard both sides and lean left anyway, that’s fine. I won’t agree with you on much, but I can respect that you’ve actually come to a decision about what you believe instead of believing what you’ve been told to believe. But if you just keep repeating the media or what you were brought up to believe with no backing of what you believe (or poor backing), that’s naive.
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"but if you disprove it by mentioning black conservatives, they just assume they’re all stupid and dull"

Many black conservatives are stupid and dull. But again, it's not because of their skin color.

"without even having heard them (which is my problem with the left, often they don’t listen to the other side, almost like it’s a fear of being convinced that they’ve been wrong"

As I've mentioned before on this site, I listen to conservative Christian radio almost every single day. I listen to black conservatives and white conservatives, and I think they're all full of crap (all the ones on this radio station, not all conservatives across the board). Also, I could say the exact same thing about many conservatives, only listening to people on their side because they're afraid of being proven wrong.

"I listen to many people and politicians I don’t agree with...and sometimes it drains my will to live, but I do it so I can actually argue points with people about the people they’re supporting instead of talking out of my “you-know-the-thing”."

Cool. So do I.

"If you’ve heard both sides and lean left anyway, that’s fine. I won’t agree with you on much, but I can respect that you’ve actually come to a decision about what you believe instead of believing what you’ve been told to believe."

That's good

"But if you just keep repeating the media or what you were brought up to believe with no backing of what you believe (or poor backing), that’s naive."

I agree 100%
1 up, 2y,
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because they’re conservative? Because listening to people talk about the difference between the two sides (and quite a few black conservatives i listen to are ex-Democrats) and talking about the issues of today and how they’re affecting our youth and our minds sounds much more intelligent than yelling about how everything is racist simply for not agreeing with your narrative. I’ve seen some people who are calmer and more reasonable on the left, and I don’t agree with them, but I can at least respect them and could have a logical conversation with someone like that. If you’re gonna yell at me and call me racist for not being left-wing, I ain’t got time for that because nothing I say will convince you otherwise, and you ain’t gonna listen to anything either because “racism” might end up sounding too logical for you to argue against.

I don’t know what kind of Christian radio you listen to, but they may not be very articulate. I always try to find the most articulate representation of the other side so I can compare it with what I currently believe (which btw is the Lee Strobel approach, and is actually why he quit being an atheist). The problem is that it’s not very common anymore because nobody can hear past two parties anymore. And when I hear inarticulate conservatives, it annoys me, because I could play devil’s advocate and argue cases against them and out-argue them with ideas I don’t even agree with. And I know of several black conservatives that can’t really tell you why they’re conservative. But I also know of several that can. I wish this generation was more intelligent, but our education has removed critical thinking from required learning (it was once upon a time), and I can’t help but wonder if that’s intentional because critical thinking would make people too smart to fall for modern agendas they want to push.

Well that’s good.
0 ups, 2y
"because they’re conservative?"

Because of what they believe and stand for

"talking about the issues of today and how they’re affecting our youth and our minds sounds much more intelligent than yelling about how everything is racist simply for not agreeing with your narrative"

And many conservatives do the same thing. They just call people Marxists for not agreeing with their narrative.

"If you’re gonna yell at me and call me racist for not being left-wing, I ain’t got time for that because nothing I say will convince you otherwise"

And the same goes for other side as well

"I don’t know what kind of Christian radio you listen to, but they may not be very articulate"

American Family Radio

"which btw is the Lee Strobel approach, and is actually why he quit being an atheist"

I don't know why Lee Strobel became a Christian, but I do know that he often misrepresents things. He was a Christian long before he wrote The Case For Christ, which is often presented as being written by a skeptic.

"I wish this generation was more intelligent"

I wish every generation was
1 up, 2y,
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also isn’t that what the person who made the real_politics meme was communicating?
0 ups, 2y,
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If so, they went about it in a really weird way
1 up, 2y
well saying you “hate” people is not very decent but that’s why I said neither side is really correct on hating a race when they support the other party.
1 up, 2y,
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Pretty sure those who loudly proclaim they hate whomever are loudly proclaiming they hate them, as opposed to, um, some convoluted supposition, um, based on something that someone contorted out of their own mindset,,,
2 ups, 2y,
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can you explain how these two are different though? Because your argument could be used to defend whoever made the real_politics meme. Not that either that person or the people I described are both in the right, but if you’re going to defend one and say the other is wrong, that’s confusing because there’s no difference between them. And the left is always anti-Semitic but acts like they aren’t.
1 up, 2y
I can't, because I never said it, nor did I present any argument. That's Unite the Right, anyone can watch the video and see & hear what they did & said.

"And the left is always anti-Semitic but acts like they aren’t."

The Right has been claiming for ages that Leftism is a Semitic tool used to spread a so-called Zionist agenda. That's what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion claimed, that's what was said about Communist and Anarchist movements and parties in the USA starting in the early the 20th Century, that's what Hitler said, that's what Conservatives claimed about the Civil Rights Movement, that's what Far Right extremists from the KKK to neo-Nazi Skinheads to militias use as a refrain, that's what the Alt Right means when they're referring to Soros and the Rothschilds and Marxism and Socialism and Globalism and the Great Reset now, etc.
These are are old tired tropes meant to demonize movements by demonizing a people as if they're manning a nefarious plot to wrest control from those 'in charge.' That's what Unite the Right was chanting about.

Anti-Semitism has been the basic go-to for the establishment for two millenia. Resisting progress is tepid, living in caves, after all, really isn't all that appealing. Rallying the masses against the aspect of it being a function of insidious outsiders is a more effective approach for those benefitting from the status quo.
4 ups, 2y,
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2 ups, 2y
Thanks :)
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