’Murica stands alone!

Spitting facts

Already HOC candidate for FBI/Crusaders, sorry

Oh f**k right off with that and just go ahead and move to:

—Egypt
—Iraq
—Madagascar
—The Republic of the Congo
—Mauritania
—Nicaragua
—El Salvador

All these countries are well-known for their utmost respect for human rights and for generally being some of the best places to live, especially for babies. The good thing about these countries is women aren’t “pressured” either way because they simply don’t have a choice, their governments simply follow the laws of God or Allah and that is that.

Have fun bro.

Yeah, we should totally be like a third world country or war torn like Iraq. If you don't like America then go to Nicaragua where everything is an amazing civil rights paradise. Oh right, you don't have the guts to leave the U.S. because it's the only place where you can scream your mindless ideologies without people with 2 IQ saying that you're crazy.

If a 13-year-old is old enough to get raped by her uncle, impregnated, and forced by the state to bear her pedo-rapist-uncle’s demon spawn then I guess she’s probably old enough to have to endure an auto-censored swear word.

F**k you and have a nice day.

More oddly specific scenarios dropping soon — get ready!

Seriously, read another book

better get my good 'ol popcorn for this now to see everyone's counters

yeah america sucks i never want to go there

Same. Unfortunately, I live here

It’s not so bad if you’re rich. Then again, nowhere is

ye im australian

i mean, australia is incredibly dangerous

“America stands alone”
Japan and it’s puppets attack democracy in East Asia! The Rising Sun plunges its dagger into our exposed Pacific territories! America stands alone against imperialism. We shall defeat the Japanese as we have defeated the Germans! If we must win this next war alone, we shall do that too.

Overturning Roe V Wade doesn’t ban baby murder, it simply kicks the decision back to the states. As someone who claims to be a lawyer, I would think you would already be aware of this.

Welp, Sloth OP wars are back in season I guess

Yup, the states will all leave each other alone on this topic. And the Republicans won’t simply ban abortion nationally next time they hold unified control of the federal government. As someone who claims to be a lawyer, I find this implausible.

As someone who claims to be a libertarian, your lack of concern about women’s rights is… actually, right in line with libertarianism, so carry on.

I’d be perfectly happy with the safe, legal, and rare compromise we used to agree to, where we acknowledged abortion as necessary in cases such as rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is compromised, but that it shouldn’t be used as contraception or just because the mother finds it inconvenient. I would go out on a limb and say most people overall would agree with what I just said. You on the other hand want unlimited baby murder with no restrictions just because. If I have to choose between unlimited baby murder and no baby murder at all with absolutely no compromise allowed, then the baby murder’s gotta go.

“ As someone who claims to be a libertarian, your lack of concern about women’s rights is” blah blah blah.

I’m a libertarian, not an ancap. Government plays a role in seeing that justice is served when an act such as murder, robbery, etc… occurs. And yes, abortion is murder.

You’re strawmanning. As I’ve said many times, I’m okay with abortion bans in the third trimester. Which is exactly what Roe v. Wade permitted — and which falls under the framework of “safe, legal, and rare” that you’ve cited.

What red states are instead barreling toward is a future where abortion is unsafe, illegal, and yet, surprisingly common — because the American social safety net is a f**king trainwreck.

As an atheist MAGA-inclined libertarian, if you want to sensibly accommodate the religious radicals on your team, you’ll also need to become more comfortable with the fact that a state that mandates birth is a state that bears a share of responsibility for the consequences.

As the bottom two circles in the Venn diagram of my original meme suggested, that would include, at a minimum, paid family leave and free early childhood education. Another kind gesture to new parents — whether forced by the state into that role or not — would be the free newborn care boxes like they have in Finland.

The end of Roe v. Wade is only the beginning. I’ll be waiting expectantly to see if red states are ready to build a true culture of life rather than doubling-down on a threadbare social safety net that says you’re-on-your-own.

If states like Mississippi and Arkansas and Missouri thereby unlock their inner potential and transform themselves into the shining cities on a hill of the U.S. and the world, I’ll be right there with you!

“As I’ve said many times, I’m okay with abortion bans in the third trimester.”

I have literally never seen you say that ever. Maybe you have, maybe you haven’t, but I don’t really pay too much attention to your profile to be up to date on literally everything KylieFan has ever had an opinion on.

“As an atheist MAGA-inclined libertarian, if you want to sensibly accommodate the religious radicals on your team, you’ll also need to become more comfortable with the fact that a state that mandates birth is a state that bears a share of responsibility for the consequences.”

Eyyy who’s straw-manning now? I’ve already had this debate with you specifically where I have called for Universal Basic Income and you’ve told me that was too radical of a position even for you. Not a position most libertarians advocate for, but considering automation is upon us and pretty much almost everyone is going to be put out of work by some sort of machine or software bot, it’s something we have to do to ensure people have a somewhat decent standard of living when we are all out of a job as well as to keep society functioning. I’m all for government programs such as Medicare, Social Security and I’m in favor of expanding them such as a public healthcare option, free college for strictly STEM fields and the trades, a national jobs program, and nationalizing, electrifying, and vastly expanding the rail network and Amtrak as well as public transportation nationwide. I could quite literally go on for hours about all the mind blowing ideas I would enact to utterly revolutionize the way we think about this country but I’ll keep it short for now since I’ve already made my point.

Also if you care about funding social programs, maybe stop sending billions of dollars to the Fourth Reich for a war we should absolutely not be involved in and spend that money here instead. Just saying.

well Putin was a former KGB agent, and both target their opponents by conflating them with neo-Nazis/extremists, so I actually kinda agree about the whole Putin-Antifa comparison in that regard, just not in the way you intended