Republicans hate democracy and freedom

304 views • 4 upvotes • Made by Manhattan 2 years ago in politics
60 Comments
Graeystone
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
How can it be an end to something the country never was?
[deleted]
1 up, 2y
Republic means there's no king. Democracy means people vote. We're both.
[deleted]
6 ups, 2y, 3 replies
Well, let's see.  If the election was fraudulent (which it was) then democracy ended early in the morning of Nov 4th, 2020.  It was killed by Democrats.  The fact that the Texas GOP pointed it out is NOT and end to democracy.



Once the talking heads on TV tell Democrats what to think they just shut themselves down to any thoughts if their own.
Octavia_Melody
3 ups, 2y
The election wasn't stolen. Get over it.
[deleted]
4 ups, 2y, 2 replies
70 court judges said that it wasn't fraudulent, though.
AmericanViking
3 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Which one scheduled a court date to hear the evidence?
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
70 of them. You didn't have any evidence so it didn't go to trial.
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Nope... try again
[deleted]
1 up, 2y
I don't have to do squat! YOU'RE the accuser! YOU get some evidence and try again!!
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
And that's your proof?  How many actually went to trial?  How many just dismissed the case without even examining the evidence?



What there enough evidence known to prove fraud back then?  How many judges were bought off or had their families threatened or both?



Stop being ignoring the real hard facts that there was voter fraud.  I don't care how much Trump hatred you have, the truth is the truth.
Modda
0 ups, 2y
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Manhattan
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
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2 ups, 2y, 4 replies
Dude!  Do you seriously think that what I have seen has anything to do with what Trump said.  Do you think I even trust Jerry Nadler?



Those court cases, the 1 or 2 that weren't just dismissed without even examining the evidence, were based on what was known at the time.  There has been a flood of facts that have been discovered since then.  Try to keep up with what's happening.  Don't let your extreme Trump hatred keep you from the truth.



Trump didn't have to say a word about voter fraud, I knew it was going to happen right after Trump won on 2016.  I knew that you guys were not going to hold back like you did in 2008, 2012 and 2016, just to give the appearance of a close election.  What I didn't know is just how sloppy you guys were.  I thought you would have had a better grip on your fraud.  It's so easy to prove fraud that even a caveman can do it.
Manhattan
1 up, 2y
Manhattan
1 up, 2y
oh and the only fraud"... has been trump supporters.
Manhattan
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
and in 2016 where he again lost the popular vote. just like bush. worst presidents ever. 'selected' not 'elected'... and if you think trump who tried to rig this one with fake electors this time, did not do it last time... you are kidding yourself. 



https://www.justsecurity.org/81939/timeline-false-alternate-slate-of-electors-scheme-donald-trump-and-his-close-associates/
[deleted]
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
You do not that every single recount in the state of Florida, including all of the recounts done by liberal newspapers, all showed that Bush won.  But you can go ahead and just keep believing that Gore won.  It makes no difference to me.



I am not big fan of Bush, his dad or even Trump for that matter.  What I am a fan of is the truth.  I know that the truth will never be found in the Democrat Party or any of their operatives.  There isn't much truth in the Republican Party.  So I do not go to them for anything reliable.



I know you very much long to paint me as a Trump supporter who is just believing every word that comes out of his mouth, but you would be very, very, very wrong to do that.  I didn't even vote for Trump in 2016.  I only voted for Trump in 2020 because I knew what a flaming moron Biden is and always has been.  And since he has been in office he has proven to be much worse than I thought anyone could ever be.  Biden should go down in history is the dumbest president we've ever had if it wasn't for the fact that the left controls our education system and the media.



Biden was only vice president as an insurance policy for Obama.  Even the most insane psychopath would have to think twice before attempting an assassination on Obama because no one would ever want to wake up the next day to a President Biden.  Boy was I ever wrong about that.  Democrat voters are much, much, much dumber than I thought.  I felt the same way about Trump in 2016.  I never expected Republicans to fawn over him they way they did.  However, I would easily take Trump over Biden any day.  I would prefer my shoe be president over Biden.  My shoe has twice the brain power as Biden on a good day.



So you keep enjoying paying, on average, an extra $500 per month.  You keep enjoying paying over $5.00 per gallon of gas every time you need to fill us.  If you live in Manhattan as your name suggests then you get to pay a whole lot more than $5.00 per gallon.  



The high price of idiotic Democrat economic policies is collapsing the economy right before our eyes.  The important thing to remember here is that Biden caused all of it because Biden isn't working for the American people.  He is working for China, Russia and the World Economic Forum.  Their goal is the destruction of capitalism.  They do not care about the mass starvation that will happen as a result of their stupidity.  You cannot take capitalism down without collapsing currency and making it impossible to buy food.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y
What does biden have to do with the price of gas? Why is it 11.50 a gallon in Hong Kong?  thats called "Capatalism".... you know , the thing you love so much...



Working for China Russia? lol TRUMP PRAISES RUSSIA... He tried to take down NATO FOR THEM..... smh.... His crap that he sells is all made in CHINA...



If you dont like the price of gas.... dont buy it.
Manhattan
1 up, 2y
Its so easy' that it has not been done. not once. in fact the opposite, its been PROVEN not true. 



sad. 



https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104081027/ivanka-trump-said-she-accepted-barrs-conclusion-that-the-2020-election-wasnt-sto
nickbean
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
That is one of the most polarizing, one-sided memes I've ever seen. I don't appreciate it when anyone does this, whether left or right wingers. But thank you for not disabling the comments!!
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Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
nickbean
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
If you wanna go there, have you thought about how divisive the last election was? Whether you believe it was stolen or not (I am not stating my opinion here), bags of literally just Biden votes last minute "found" in the back of someone's car is a tad bit suspicious. Also, illegally kicking out poll watchers right before counting the last votes is a little weird, don't ya think? And every time one of these events would happen, coincidenally, Biden would always win. Not Trump. Biden. Am I a Trump supporter? HECK no. Am I a Republican? Absolutely not. Am I a seeker of truth? Well, I at least try to be. I'm just put what you are posting here into greater context.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
If trump was not a crook, and could act like a grownup, put country before self, honored his oath to the constitution, and shut his lying mouth, we would be where we were after Nixon, it was a path to healing.. trump is still at it. He is a liar, his family, his legal team, everyone around him says the same thing, not to mention the bazzilions of lies we have all witnessed publicly. Hey, covid is a hoax to hurt trump lets not do anything about it, meanwhile 100's of thousands died that did not need to. 



He lost. Both times. Despite his pressuring GA to "Find" votes... despite the multitutes of people caught voting twice for him, despite his trying to defraud the electoral college again... the Truth his, he lost. The sky is blue, the earth is round, we really landed on the moon, and trump lost.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Hey mate, let's back this up a bit. Like I said, I'm no Trump fan. But before pointing fingers at the Trump family scandals or lying history, can we just acknowledge that politicians in general are lying scumbags? If you wanna hate on Trump specifically, you can do that, but consider the greater picture here. And Trump asked for a recount in GA, which considering the chaos that was the last election, isn't exactly a crazy thing to request. And Trump won the first election. Saying that the Russians made him win is a flat out conspiracy theory. The FBI, who is no friend to Trump, couldn't find any dirt on him. All that came out was that the Clinton's were spying on his campaign illegally. So consider both sides of an argument before posting these statements
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
"Russia if you are listening, you will be highly rewarded if you can find her emails".... 24 hours later they did.



Did you see what he tried to pull with the electors this time? How do we know he did not pull it off last time?
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 5 replies
Okay, that is not the quote at all. The quote is as follows: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 (Clinton) emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press." It kinda sounds different in that context, right? He is a loudmouth, not a Mafia boss. And yeah, I know that there was encouragement for the electors to defect this second time around. But that has literally nothing to do with what "might" have happened in 2017. Did Trump make any public statements then? Because if not, you can't prove that by lack of evidence. For heavens sake, the left tried for three years to dig up evidence that there was election cheating, but couldn't find a single bit. Trump won in 2016, like it or not. Also, you didn't respond to my points about the Clinton's spying on Trump's campaign or the GA recount attempt.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
He was a freaking political candidate. And did I mention that Trump has always been a loudmouth?
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
He was and is a traitor. 



https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
Trump is not a traitor. Seriously @Manhattan, you need to keep things in perspective. Trump has had a lifetime of business deals, none of which I particularly care about. Just cause he partners with a country that is a semi-ally to us does not make him a traitor. What he did was perfectly legal.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
https://sos.ga.gov/news/raffensperger-certifies-may-primary-results



January 6 hearing: Local 'heroes' rebuffed Trump, then faced threats

By Lisa Mascaro, Farnoush Amiri and Daniel Miller Published June 21, 2022 7:18AM Updated 5:56PM Capitol Riot FOX TV Digital Team



https://www.fox5ny.com/news/january-6-panel-hearing-june-21-georgia-brad-raffensperger-trump
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Was any of that Trump's doing though, assuming those testimonies are true for a sec? Did he order those idiots to act that way?
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
Show me some evidence for this.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y
Here is a thought, why dont you watch the trials..? "if they are true" wtf reason would they have to lie? yea they and the whole world is out to get poor little trump, and covid is a big hoax just to hurt his re-election...  thats why I get short with you, its annoying, 



Ivanka Trump pleaded with her father, former president Donald Trump, at least twice on January 6 to stop the violence at the US Capitol. 



Jan. 6 Select Committee Vice Chair Rep. Liz Cheney revealed the first daughter's efforts to stop the siege, during an interview on Sunday. She added that the panel has firsthand testimony confirming Ivanka's requests.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
If you wanna talk about Mafia, need I go into the Clintons?? That might put these things in context here.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
I haven't even said anything about the Clintons Mafia behavior yet. The only one erecting straw men is you this entire conversation.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y
US election 2016: Trump says election 'rigged at polling places'

Published17 October 2016



https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37673797
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
https://krdo.com/politics/cnn-us-politics/2022/06/19/us-is-worried-about-russia-using-new-efforts-to-exploit-divisions-in-2022-midterms/



https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
I'm happy to read your links, but I'm not sure what argument I am refuting here
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
trump is a traitor, con man, liar, thief and has done much damage to the very pillars of America.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
Okay, you're going too far here at this point. That is your opinion, and I really can't argue with that. Nor do I want to defend Trump's nonexistent honor. I don't like Trump either.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
He did not ask for a 'recount'..... he ordered the official to "Find" him 11,128 votes....
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 2 replies
Okay, yes, that happened. I don't know what Trump meant there, but it certainly did not make him look good in the public eyes. Keep in mind though that nobody found Trump votes just cause Trump wanted to win the election. On the other hand, countless stories of Biden votes "found" in the strangest places have surfaced on the internet. In one case, a tractor trailer unexpectedly pulled up at a counting place and unloaded mysterious boxes there. I dunno about you, but that makes me a tad uneasy. The votes were supposed to all be in hours before that truck arrived.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y
https://www.businessinsider.com/esper-trump-book-withholding-ukraine-aid-broke-the-law-2022-5
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Okay, yes, that happened. """



Full stop. Conversation over. Time for a trial for sedition.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y, 3 replies
That kind of sounds like you're jumping the gun there. Is there any evidence that asking for a recount to get more votes caused voter fraud? Because you're making heated statements here without really think if any of this would stand up in a court of law.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Demanding they "find" him votes is not a recount. this convo is over. If you dont see what a twisted crook and traitor trump is and the damage he has done and continues to do, at this point thats on you and maga.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
This conversation is not really taking any good turn. I'm trying to have a friendly discussion with you, and you are getting more and more angry at me. Trump said that on an hour-long call about a recount in Georgia. Obviously, he wanted the recount to result in more votes for him. But there is no evidence that Trump himself was adding those votes. You are taking him out of context and trying to incriminate him for it.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Trump recorded asking Georgia officials to 'find votes' | Full Recording

283,872 viewsJan 3, 2021



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBIG5Tv0fZk
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
Okay? And how does this link do anything for your argument?
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
You want context'? There is the whole recording, listen to it. If you dont see how corrupt he is... dont know what to tell you, I watched Nixon resign over much less.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
My word. You just fed me my own evidence and are trying to force it on me. Trump was trying to sort through a boatload of voter fraud. He also happens to be one of the greatest exaggerators America known. Should we impeach him for asking Georgia to recount, openly admitting he wants to win re-election?? I mean, if the Dems wanna try round 3 of impeachment, they can go lose their minds again over that clip. But lets not be so focused on Trump that we lose the context on what happened last election.
Manhattan
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
despite his blackmailing Ukraine to make s*** up on Joes kid... Despite Russian hacks posting nonsense designed to divide us on FB and the like.... despite so much, the whining lying treasones, putin loving, mobster wanna be, trust fund baby... lost.
nickbean
0 ups, 2y
I don't even know what to say here... Make up (not gonna type out that word)?? Do you have any evidence that Trump made that up about Hunter Biden? Because Hunter has decades of corruption and scandals on his name, some of which predate Trump's presidency. Did Trump make those up too? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or mean here, I am just asking you to think about your statement for a second. And Trump did lose the second time. But you have to admit that the last election was very strange. There was a record amount of fraud then. Was it enough to tip an election? I'm not the one to be the judge of that. But voter turnout rates of over 100 percent in some counties mean that people who were legally dead found a way to the polls. Did Biden summon an undead army to his side? XD Lots of crazy things happened in 2020. And I admit Trump was his own biggest enemy a lot of the time. He's got an annoyingly big mouth and doesn't really think a lot of the time. So the fact that the election was close enough that the possibility of voter fraud being an issue to the turnout of an election is all on Trump. I'm not gonna touch on your other insults except to say that you might want to consider what you just claimed about Trump before posting those. I don't have time too delve into each one of those.
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