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Is the CDC lying to us again? | THE CDC DOES NOT PUBLISH INFECTION RATES BY VAX STATUS, BUT THEY SAY THE UNVAXED ARE GETTING SICK; HTTPS://WWW.WALGREENS.COM/BUSINESSSOLUTIONS/COVID-19-INDEX.JSP; WALGREENS PUBLISHES THE INFECTION RATE BY VAX STATUS. THEY TELL A DIFFERENT STORY | image tagged in walgreens | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 2y
The fact that at this point people are still trying to shove an old flu vaccine on people for a constantly changing virus is clear proof that this isn't about health and all about brainwashing and control.
2 ups, 2y,
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1 up, 2y,
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1. "The CDC says the unvaxxed are getting sick" is a bit vague ...yet obvious. Both unvaccinated and vaccinated can still get Covid. If they said ONLY the unvaxxed are getting sick they might be lying.

2. "Controlling for recent Covid-19 cases, the unvaccinated have a 17% higher positivity rate than the 3-dose [vaccinated] group." - Walgreens
1 up, 2y,
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"The CDC says the unvaxxed are getting sick" is a bit vague"

That is my fault for the wording. The CDC is promoting that it is the unvaxed who have a higher positivity rate, and needs to get vaxed, which seems untrue.

The chart shows that of those who are tested, only 14.9% of unvaxed are testing positive, while almost 85% of those who had any vaccination are testing positive.

This aligns with data from Isreal and the UK. They are also seeing a higher positivity rate in the vaxed at about the same percentages.
0 ups, 2y,
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Seems untrue... now.

That Walgreens tracker chart looks like it only tracks 1 week. I did a little digging & it looks like USA Today & Forbes both reported on the Walgreens Covid tracker in January and both claimed the unvaccinated had the highest rate at that time. Maybe the unvaccinated who previously had the highest rates got antibodies from the massive wave this winter and flipped the chart. ( The ones who didn't die anyway.. as far as I know it is still disproportionately killing the unvaxxed.)

As far as Israel and UK, both also seem to have had a pretty good size wave this past winter. UK had one and has already had another.
0 ups, 2y,
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I am not a virologist so I can't explain why, though I have my own opinion.

Here is the link to the Walgreens Covid Tracker. It is constantly updated and is now showing 4/26/2022 - 5/2/2022

https://www.walgreens.com/businesssolutions/covid-19-index.jsp

Page 3 of the index is still showing the vaxed has higher positivity (15.4% vs. 84.6%) even as the infection rate is climbing.

Unfortunately, other trackers like John Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, and the CDC have stopped reporting rates by vax status.

I did find a Wisconsin tracker which shows fully vaxed at a lower positivity rate. However, they only count those with 2 shots and a booster as vaxed. Everyone else is counted as unvaxxed. They also don't consider an infected person vaxed if their last booster shot was <2 weeks ago.
0 ups, 2y
Although it cannot be easily copy/pasted, the link to the tracker is in your meme... I've looked at it already. That's how I noticed the chart they provide is for ~1 week. I would be interested to see like.. a timeline of charts though. To see how it has changed over time in relation to how vaccination has changed over time.

Boosters being administered in America began plateauing months ago (January I think) and the CDC has stated (and I'm pretty sure it's still on their website now) that vaccine efficacy against catching Covid declines over time..... I could be wrong but I would tend to think that might be a factor here, as well as in Wisconsin. It will be interesting to see if /when another round of boosters is given (and taken) next winter how that plays out... Maybe people won't bother with it though idk.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
https://www.wnd.com/2022/03/official-data-fully-vaccinated-people-account-9-10-covid-deaths/
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
9 in 10 people over the age of 12 in the UK have had at least 1 jab. So maybe deaths are now becoming proportionate. Eventually I thought the % vaxxed vs unvaxxed deaths would flip as vaccination increased (I was warning people here about that) and maybe that time is now.

If 100% of a population is vaxxed, 100% of their covid deaths will be among vaxxed people. However... I would expect the overall number of deaths to be lower than it would be had nobody been vaxxed. This seems to be the case in the UK with their latest wave of Covid deaths considerably smaller than previous ones prior to the vaccines. This does not seem to be the case in Japan and tbh I'm not exactly sure why.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
You are comparing two different statistics.
From the data:

About 73.5% of the population of England has been fully vaccinated, and 56.9% have received a booster shot, as of Feb. 28.

Overall, the vaccinated population accounted for 89% of all COVID-19 deaths during the four-week period.
0 ups, 2y,
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Right. And as I said, as vaccination increases, eventually vaccinated Covid death % will flip..meaning they will become a higher percentage than the unvaccinated deaths. I was saying that about 6 months ago or so when Covid deaths were overwhelmingly unvaccinated. However the total amount of deaths for a given wave of Covid should theoretically be smaller with increased vaccination.

Within 7 months of 2021 in the UK, Covid killed a total of 51,000 people... 50,700 of them were unvaccinated (99.4%) and 300 were vaccinated. (0.6%)

Basically covid ripped through the unvaccinated higher risk population in the beginning of this pandemic. And the UK actually already had 2 major waves of unvaccinated deaths. That is not sustainable. The amount of unvaccinated humans are not being replenished at the same rate they have been extinguished. At some point there are virtually none left and the only ones left are a handful out of the boatloads of vaccinated (primarily elderly) people.

But if a total of 10 people die in a month and of them are 9 vaccinated 90% would look pretty bad I guess. (I understand that is not the statistics but this is just to demonstrate the point) the last wave of (allegedly) primarily vaccinated deaths was tiny compared to both previous primarily unvaccinated waves.
0 ups, 2y,
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That is a misrepresentation of the data. It is not that the vaccinated are a higher percentage of the overall deaths because they are a higher percentage of all people.

The data shows that a higher percentage of vaccinated people are dying. An example would be 15 out of 100 vaccinated people are dying compared to three out of 100 unvaccinated.
0 ups, 2y
UK Covid deaths
(within 28 days)
Jan-Feb 2022

4.5 out of 100,000 (age 60-69) triple vaxxed people died
vs
15.7 out of 100,000 (age 60-69) unvaccinated people that died.

Idk.. am I missing something? Misinterpreting data?

The chart here was taken directly from the source of your source.
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1 up, 2y,
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The chart show the NOT vaccinated have the lowest positivity rate at 14.9%. Buy eyeglasses!
1 up, 2y,
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1 up, 2y,
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April 24-29. I would imagine in that one week there were thousands of people tested. That would be a statistically valid sample.
1 up, 2y
I'm not saying it's not a statistically valid sample size. I'm saying that looking at 1 week of incredibly recent data, apparently ignoring the rest of however many months the unvaccinated had Covid at higher rates, and trying to claim it is evidence that the CDC is/was lying to us (at some point?) seems like a bit much. There's not even any quote nor date from the CDC to look at here.

I mean if that data was a 3 month span, say Jan-March and the CDC put out a statement late March claiming the "Unvaccinated are getting Covid at a higher rate than anyone", ok they would seem to be lying... This is not that.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
I’m just curious and you don’t have to answer. But if you were vaccinated, were you informed of the over 1200 significant side effects that were described in the clinical trial data?
0 ups, 2y
No but I was informed about Covid from direct family members and friends who died, were hospitalized, and have had severe long term side effects from it (before we had vaccines). And I was willing to risk whatever possibly MIGHT happen (to me) from the vaccine so that the rest of my family and America might not have to deal with what I KNOW had happened to my family and friends of family from Covid.

The outcome: literally no side effects to me beyond a sore arm and as far as I know, I've still never had nor transmitted Covid. Everyone else in my family and I'm pretty sure even extended family (except babies) are vaccinated. And nobody else has been severely impacted or died from Covid. Even the people highest at risk for myocarditis from vaccines (younger boys) haven't had it nor any legit side effects as far as I know. Some of the older women felt sick-ish for a day or so from the vaccine but that was basically the extent of vaccine side effects in my fam. Maybe we're just lucky idk. *shrug*
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