That Would Be Great

Nukes can't be the measure. Truman used Nukes. Twice!

Not for offense

I understand from the Allies perspective that may be the perception, but the 200,000+ mostly citizens killed and their families probably don't share that perspective.

How about the million American soldiers who did not die invading the homeland or the 2 million or more Japs who would have died in vain. In all, it saved lives.

That's conjecture and they would have been soldiers. The Japanese women, elderly and children were real. Understand, I am not questioning the decision Truman made. It did hasten the ens of the war. But you shouldn't ignore the actual horror of what happened.

No that was calculated based on losses taking islands up to the main islands.

If you think there is a clean war then I invite you to share with us where the clean end of a turd is for picking it up.

A calculated estimate is not a fact. I have first hand experience that war is not clean. I don't see where we disagree, but I sense you do.

I'd love to see them use the same standards for those over 200,000 civilians killed by the US in Iraq...

It is...

200,000+ Iraqis killing each other*

FIFY

Sunni vs. Shia civil war. Look it up. America didn’t create these ancient Muslim rivalries.

Sorry... those people's deaths are directly connected to the American invasion...

Using nuclear weapons is allowed by thw Geneva convention. Bombing hospitals, civilain areas, killing civilians, are not.

If you have served, you would know that.

That was not what I meant. I meant there is no scenario in reality, in which the President of Russia, will be arrested, taken into custody and put on trial for any type of war crime—without Russia nuking the United States and probably several other NATO members. Also, Russia is only subject to the Geneva Convention. Neither Russia nor the US are subject to any other types of war crime treaty.

Geneva says it all. But you would know that....

Well, I am against the US referring to Russia as “terrorists” - because they are fighting a far more respectable war in the Ukraine, than we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe not by American standards, but by most other countries’ standards. America is further isolating itself with nonsense communist policies like the new technique of sanctioning private citizens. That’s the greatest act of communist naziism. That’s not a war crime? To use tactics that are only supposed to apply to terrorists with no flag and no uniform? Agains a member of the UN Security Council? It’s worse than a war crime. Next, we won’t need bail reform, because the courts will start freezing people’s assets. Then, after that, it’ll be routine for Americans to be sanctioned like that for everything, parking tickets, to credit card bills. Anything and everything Watch. That’s how it always goes.

"they are fighting a far more respectable war in the Ukraine"

wOw

Yes. They are. Shooting missiles off of ships and planes from 1,000 miles away is considered cowardly. As is going door to door and terrorizing women and children every night at gunpoint while searching their homes. The US committed 20 years of genocide in the Middle East. Covid was phase 1. Ukraine is phase 2. Pray for no phase 3 and 4. No matter how brainwashed we might be, it’s not how we are seen by billions of people who hate everything about us. America quit being a liberator almost 30 years ago. Anyone who thinks they are overthrowing the Russian government without at East one nuclear attack on America is living in fake news la la land. Dementia Bidenland.

tl;dr

There is nothing "respectable" - let alone, "a far more" - in an unprovoked invasion, attack and massacre of people, even for beta cuck Donny's boss fanbase.

Stick with your fanfic of life in NYC no one else has ever heard of. At least that isn't this chilling.

Do not reply to this.

It was not “unprovoked” several top officials of the US government were colluding with Ukraine using their relatives as intermediaries, to attempt a fanciful, pathetic minded bloodless coup over the government of Russia. Like it’s Iraq or Serbia 🤣🤣🤣 a bloodless regime change in russia 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂 we couldn’t even pull that off in Afghanistan, these democrats are literally saying it was their plan. That is insanity. This whole thing is America further isolating itself from the world. Europe talks support, but does nothing. The war is already going on in Yemen. America is hated more now than ever before. China put their ports on lockdown to sanction America. China mobilized all of their island bases. China and Russia are staking claims to Japanese islands again. And Taiwan is about to be invaded. The stage is perfectly set for a war.

I can only find articles with headlines saying Ukrainians calling Russia terrorists.

"America is further isolating itself with nonsense communist policies like the new technique of sanctioning private citizens"

What programs at the federal.level is doing that?

" Next, we won’t need bail reform, because the courts will start freezing people’s assets. Then, after that, it’ll be routine for Americans to be sanctioned like that for everything, parking tickets, to credit card bills."

Is this when we start folding tin foil?

You need to watch the news. The white house is saying it. Every day. Folding tinfoil? I lived through the end of the USSR. When did Russia ever openly state that it is prepared and ready to use its nuclear forces against the U.S.? This is the first time. The reason Putin is arresting spies is because those are the people the US thought it could use for a bloodless coup in Russia. It’s all fun and games when you’re addicted to the brainwashing fake media.

"You need to watch the news... It’s all fun and games when you’re addicted to the brainwashing fake media."

Lol which is it?

"I lived through the end of the USSR."

Yeah, I remember the whole school being called to the basement classrooms, to sit "indian" style (that was what it was called in the 70s, f**k off) for 30 minutes (2hours to a 9 yo). So, yeah, ive been there. Unless you are talking about being at the WALL coming down. Is that what you are talking about?

"The reason Putin is arresting spies is because those are the people the US thought it could use for a bloodless coup in Russia."

Very interesting! Which folded foil hat are we folding now?

Yeah. Liberal logic. Everyone who’s not an enlightened sheep genius, is a dumb redneck ignoramus. Ha. Ha. Ha.

No value! Is that what you have to bring?

Please stop pretending to be a conservative. Your not. You’re a regular pedofile protection club police state liberal.

And this has vakie to conversation how? Should we talk about the leaves on trees in DC, in the Spring?