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4 ups, 2y,
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Doesn't need to. The principle is what matters.
0 ups, 2y,
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The principle doesn't make sense unless you believe time traveling projection is a thing...."Accuse the other side of that which you might be guilty of years in the future".

Or are you saying "the principle" referring to the OP's underlying examples? I think those are also inaccurate. This isn't exactly WW3 and our economy isn't crashed.
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You are missing the point. The way the democrats work is to do that thing themselves, and then blame it on the right. It happens so often. That is the principle.
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0 ups, 2y
"Fallacious reasoning."

Which fallacy am I committing?
0 ups, 2y,
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You do realize that you are (or at the very least were) arguing for "feelings, not facts"...... right?

The OP's supporting "example" doesn't add up... You said "it doesn't need to" because the principle... You then repeated the OP claim without providing any other valid examples.
1 up, 2y,
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No, directly acts in fact. That was a switcheroo on your part. Here is what I am saying. A dem, like Biden, will do something, and then blame it on the right, or a certain politician. Here is a good example of Biden blaming his acts against (not the right, but even better), Putin! he shuts down pipelines and makes us no longer energy independent, then blames Russia on the high prices and reliance.
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Ok let's look at the "facts" in your example.

First of all, America never was legit energy independent. We have been importing oil from Russia and many other countries for decades... including when Trump was president. I don't think you understand what people actually mean as far as "energy independent"... Basically it means for a short period of time, we exported slightly more oil/petroleum products than we imported from other countries. We're a global economy. We trade. It is what it is.

Second of all, Biden shutting down the Keystone XL literally did not change anything as far as our oil production or reliance. Zero oil was flowing through the pipe in 2019, nor in 2020 and zero oil is flowing through it now. It was never functional. Him shutting down that pipeline did not "make us no longer energy independent".

Third yes, in a way, the most recent oil price hike was due to Biden's policy... specifically: his policy of cutting off Russian oil coming to America...(exactly what everyone here seemed to want us to do). Biden cut them off so that created less supply which made prices go up.

However.......If Putin hadn't invaded the Ukraine, we would probably still be buying their oil (as we have for decades) so we wouldn't have had the latest price hike..... So in a way the price increase was also kind of Putin's fault.

Fourth, oil prices crashed while Trump was president and began rising before Biden was president.. and then began rising even more as America recovered from 2020 and we began going back to work. And I mentioned- after that, the most recent rise due to Biden cutting off Putin's oil. But both seem blame-able for that.

But overall, basically Biden is not guilty of making us reliant on Russian oil (we already were), nor is he really guilty of making oil prices rise (they began rising before him). Except for the most recent rise..... but that was for cutting off Russia. And considering Putin invaded Ukraine, it seems like a legit move to make.

I would also point out that it seems people here have generally complained on both sides of that Russian deal. Before he cut off Russian oil many people here were like "bruh why is Biden buying oil from Russia?" .....Then literally the next day he cuts off their oil and people are like "bruh why is Biden making oil prices go up??"
Did y'all want us to keep buying Russian oil or nah!?!?

Anyway.. I hope Godzilla took enough meds to survive reading this.
:P
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"First of all, America never was legit energy independent. We have been importing oil from Russia and many other countries for decades... including when Trump was president. I don't think you understand what people actually mean as far as "energy independent"... Basically it means for a short period of time, we exported slightly more oil/petroleum products than we imported from other countries. We're a global economy. We trade. It is what it is."

>>Yes, we were energy independent, and yes, we were trading, but MUCH less reliant on other countries. You can't trick me on that.

"Second of all, Biden shutting down the Keystone XL literally did not change anything as far as our oil production or reliance. Zero oil was flowing through the pipe in 2019, nor in 2020 and zero oil is flowing through it now. It was never functional. Him shutting down that pipeline did not "make us no longer energy independent."

Here is the summation of my arguments:

1. https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/gas-and-oil/the-united-states-was-energy-independent-in-2019-for-the-first-time-since-1957/

2. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/energy-independence-trump/
0 ups, 2y,
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Sucks to be you dude! But it's ok you need the practice anyway.
;P

Basically my point with that video was this: yes Biden is old as dirt (as are many other prominent members of our government)....But you cannot deliver an over an hour long speech like that if you got crickets upstairs.

He said Iranian instead of Ukrainian... How did we know he made a mistake? Because everyone knew what he meant. Because of context.
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I mentioned more than that slip up. I sent you a video containing numerous slurs. And you can find countless more on Youtube. he is not fit for presidency and you know it,
0 ups, 2y,
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1. Biden did everything to he could to get most of America vaxxed and save lives... meanwhile they compared him to Hitler for it.

2. Biden got America millions of monoclonal antibody treatments to save lives.

3. Biden got out free home covid tests to America for anyone who wants them to save lives.

4. Biden recently also got free covid antiviral pills to pharmacies for anyone who tests positive to save lives......which is great news for the high risk people who still refuse to get vaccinated! Although the unvaxxed might also refuse the pill.... but if they want to get severe covid and possibly die that badly ok. Many of 'em have died already. They're free to do that.

5. We have recovered economically so quickly under Biden that it caused gas prices to go up.

6. Oil production is still going up and eventually it will match or exceed demand, prices will recede, and the people on the right currently complaining about oil prices will most likely scurry back under whatever rock and then it will be radio silence about gas prices.

7. POTUS is no longer retweeting dumbass qanon sh*t about covid...influencing people like my neighbors to think covid basically the same as the flu. Yes. No more "mean tweets". Good.

8. "Someone" is not pulling any Biden strings and he isn't an incoherent dementia patient. His recent state of the Union is proof of that. It wasn't perfect but it was generally coherent. Sure he flubs stuff sometimes but so does Trump. Trump was on Fox News recently and he totally did not understand what was going on. Somehow he thought America was putting boots on the ground to fight against Russia. But in any case, I do generally think many of the presidential candidates are older than I would prefer but it is what it is.

9. We are a global society. In the long run I don't think we have much of a chance against China all alone. Isolating ourselves from the rest of the world gives China the opportunity to steal influence with our allies and that is a bad strategy.
0 ups, 2y
Trump had the vaccine created, Biden got passed on his success.

I don't know about that. But if true, then yes.

Yeah, but after the fact. Trump was the one who had to struggle the supplies, Biden got passed on success.

Did Biden gets pills to pharmacies, or did someone else?

We have not recovered economically, are you blind? The only "recovery" that we have done, is that most of the millions of people who quit or were forced to quit their jobs (or shutdown by stupid democrat policies) have gone back to work. That has nothing to do with Biden.

"oil production." What oil production? We are buying 700m$ of oil from Russia everyday.

Who cares about mean tweets when you are competent, and don't have dementia? Covid is a bad flu, and by design, worse for certain people.

Yeah sure. You don't know shit about rhetoric. Not to mention his stuttering and weak ass shit, such as: Putin may invade Ukraine, but he will never gain the hearts of the Uranian people.

Basically: while he is going to kill you, and you baby brother gets blown to bits right in front of you, its okay, because he will never gain your hearts! What is this, a Disney movie?
Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuEP38gFW3M
"uncle Joe is back." Dumbasses. Evenly the daily show new it, but deleted it when they realized the narrative.

Chuck shoemer...Hahaha. His mistake at clapping at the right time really shows it. None of them think he is doing well, that's why the approval ratings are at an all time low! They are simply keeping up the narrative.

No one is in control but he globalists. Its that simple.
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Trump "had the vaccine created".. and then what did he do? Got vaccinated hiding somewhere and didn't tell anyone!! Dude claimed to be a "war time president" over covid and then got vaccinated hiding in a bunker. No wonder so many of his followers are antivaxx.

It's true. Some of the ones now are not effective against Omicron but they had em out for Delta.

After the fact? After what fact? The fact is Biden's talking about (and doing) millions of tests for America. Trump was talking about "slowing the testing down" in America. Reporters asked him if he was kidding and he said "I don't kid, let me just tell you, let me make it clear"

"Did Biden gets pills to pharmacies, or did someone else?"
In the same way that Trump was not somewhere in a lab coat making the vaccine, I'm sure the current president was not driving a fed-ex truck delivering pills. Biden and/or his administration launched the initiative for it and approved whatever funding to pay for it including delivery.

With all those people going back to work, pent up consumer demand returned all at once and there was not enough supply. Jobs are back, many places are hiring, GDP is up, and the stock market is doing ok considering Russia is invading and bombine Ukraine.

"We are buying 700m$ of oil from Russia everyday."
President Biden banned oil from Russia 2 weeks ago... No new orders from there will be allowed.

"Mean tweets" are for emotional children..... Not POTUS.

Uranian? Bro you just messed up the mess up. He said Iranian... not Uranian. Biden said Iranian, Trump said Nambia, Biden stutters, Trump slurs, as I said both are older than I would like to see in the white house.

And talk sh*t about what he said if you want to but unless your goal is an actual genocide, winning hearts is extremely important. I don't think we ever truly won the hearts of people in Afghanistan and that's why the Taliban was back in power soon as our military left.

I think the same is true for Putin. He's not winning any hearts in Ukraine. He will now have to either kill every single Ukrainian... Or... indefinitely leave Russian troops there to be sitting ducks for decades of attacks from Ukranians.

Chuck's premature clapping is of little concern to me.

"No one is in control but he globalists. Its that simple."
What the f*ck does that even mean? Just say whoever's names.
0 ups, 2y
Ah f**k. I just spent all time responding, and the page refreshed, lost all my comments.

Look, the bottom line is this. Biden is incoherent, he slurs and can't keep his thoughts together without a script, and even with a script, he can't really do it...

Did you watch the video I sent you?
0 ups, 2y,
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"Yeah, and it was lower (in 2017) than it was in 2018, 2019, and 2020."

Yes. US oil production has been generally going up since the 2008 recession... speeding up around 2011-2012.
0 ups, 2y
And further speeding during Trumps pres, until 2020, when (in my opinion he should not have) he aided in shutting down the country.
0 ups, 2y,
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"Domestic oil production was higher in 2017, than it was in years."

? And right now, in 2022, domestic oil production is higher than it was in 2017.

I don't know what your point is.
0 ups, 2y
Yeah, and it was lower than it was in 2018, 2019, and 2020.
0 ups, 2y,
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"And further speeding during Trumps pres, until 2020, when (in my opinion he should not have) he aided in shutting down the country"

Well.. maybe it was lucky for Trump that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidency... Now Biden is the one who has to deal with the aftermath of that instead of him.

It's easy to be president when times are good. Maybe Biden will get America back to normal just in time for Trump to come back and beat him. Lol
0 ups, 2y
Biden has worsened the entire situation, and you know it.

Dude, we all know that:

1. Biden is the president, someone is pulling the strings

2. Biden is a dementia patient, and is incoherent...He isn't pulling anything back together.

3. Things will only get worse from here. The globalists have control. Even if a "good" president does get into office (they will make sure that doesn't happen, or that he or she does seem good), they are manipulating the world. Food shortages, water, you name it. Whether it happens in a month or the next president, it doesn't matter. They have control and no president can change the outcome. Are you ignorant of this?
0 ups, 2y,
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"I just spent all time responding, and the page refreshed, lost all my comments."

One more thing we can blame on Joe Biden!! Would've never happened under Trump!
;P

Yes I watched your Australian hit piece compilation of Biden flubs taken out of context to make it look incoherent.

Here's a video for you to watch:
(One these should work..both the same)

https://youtu.be/DDMuoc65Bok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDMuoc65Bok
0 ups, 2y
Bro, I literally spent half an hour thinking and commenting. :(

Bro, this is an hour and some long. Give me a segment.

Out of context? Context doesn't matter. We aren't talking about a subject, but a way of speaking.
0 ups, 2y,
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Corporate needs you to find the difference between what your sources said and what I said in my previous comment.

From both of your sources:

1. “energy independence”—which is not to say that we did not import or export energy, but that we produced more energy than we used."

2. "Last week, the U.S. exported more oil than we imported ("energy independence")

Me:

""Energy independent" basically means for a short period of time, we exported slightly more oil/petroleum products than we imported...."

So ya idk. Your sources seem to back up what I said.

Also... I did not see anything in either of your sources about "Biden made us no longer energy independent"... so I don't know why you brought up my second point. (?)

Neither of your sources even mention Keystone XL and neither of them mention the US oil production crash which happened during the Trump presidency in 2020.
1 up, 2y
Yes, because of what Trump allowed the companies to do.

No, they don't. The production crash was because of the lockdowns, and lack of people working.
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"Yes, because of what Trump allowed the companies to do."

Overall total net trade (exports minus imports) of oil/petroleum products has been going down since 2006.. kind of a long time before Trump...... so idk.. touting that as like... something he should get total credit for seems kinda eh... Idk.

"The production crash was because of the lockdowns, and lack of people working."

Ok. Yes. Lockdowns and people not working...which happened in 2020... Glad we could straighten that out.

It's like people are trying to blame Biden for what happened in 2020, meanwhile it happened before him and he is the guy trying to get America OUT of the 2020 hole.
0 ups, 2y
Domestic oil production was higher in 2017, than it was in years.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbblpd_a.htm

We seem to have two conflicting ideas from the same source.
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0 ups, 2y
No prob Bob.
:P
Everybody always wants to blame everybody else. Maybe that is human...Idk.
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This is exactly how ww1 started. People blaming others for problems others caused. Biden didn’t start the invasion on Ukraine, Putin did. But personally I think there is a hell of a lot more biden could be doing than saying “nO MoRe WaR GUyS” and problem solved. There’s no better way to say this but Putin is a dickweed
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Right, I don’t really know how they are gonna make Putin stop without taking away his nukes so he won’t start an all out war. And like that’s ever gonna happen. some BODY once told me th-…
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