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The education system has strayed from its priority.
3 ups, 3y,
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3 ups, 3y
It’s time to overhaul the education system and eiminate the unions being in charge of the school system. Educators should not be allowed to sit on local school boards because that constitutes a conflict of interest.
2 ups, 3y
Yup... robbing kids of their childhood... because they had bad ones themselves... makes perfect sense...
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2 ups, 3y,
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Child molestation can also happen by the words that you say. Best not make teachers into verbal child molesters.

It's bad enough that the schools can't fire physical child molesters if they're tenured.
0 ups, 3y,
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Do you even believe the shit you’re saying? Wow.
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2 ups, 3y,
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I have a good friend who was verbally (not physically) abused by her father ever since she was about 7 or 8 years old. She still has emotional scars from that.

Kids should not be exposed to sex at such an early age. You guys on the left keep trying to sexualize kids and everyone else's kids for decades so I don't expect you to understand or even care about child psychology.
0 ups, 3y,
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That doesn’t mean your friend was f**king molested. Molestation implies physical contact.

This language of the law prohibits instruction about “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” that aren’t age appropriate. Didn’t right-wingers used to care about the harmful effects of laws when they are purposely vague and open to interpretation by courts and police?

Leftists aren’t trying to sexualize kids, we only want them to feel comfortable being who they are. You cannot be so naive as to believe this law won’t hurt LGBTQ+ kids. I had at least three crushes on girls by the time I was in 3rd grade. You think gay kids won’t experience the same, and be subject to more harm at home? And not have their identity respected in the classroom?

Conservatives are so barbaric and reactionary it’s actually crazy.
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2 ups, 3y,
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"Molestation implies physical contact."

I disagree

"Leftists aren’t trying to sexualize kids, we only want them to feel comfortable being who they are."

It is your right to "want" other people's children "to feel comfortable" about anything? You really need to pull back on your "trying to make a difference" on other people's children. How a child is raised is only the right and responsibility of the parent. If a parent does not want their children exposed to homosexuality, then your opinion is null and void. You have no right. It does not matter if you think you are right or your line of reasoning is superior. You have to keep your mouth shut.

That is exactly why Florida passed this law. To stop the do-gooders on the left from "trying to make a difference" on other people's children.

Is there a problem with schools doing what they were designed to do and teach kids, math, science, grammar, etc WITHOUT the leftist dogma?
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It doesn’t matter if you disagree, the definition of molestation is “sexual assault”. You can’t sexually assault someone with words.

Basically you’re praising a law that you’re admitting stops well-intentioned people from keeping schools a safe environment for LGBTQ kids because it’s up to parents to accept their kid’s identity/sexual orientation or not. And yet, DeSantis wants us to believe it’s the teachers who are doing the harm. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Do we need to adjust the curriculum for all kids just because a minority of snowflake parents don’t want their kids exposed to reality? Why is anything LGBTQ immediately connotated with the left? Do you think only leftists can be gay or transgender? Do you think these sexualities and identities are a choice?
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"You can’t sexually assault someone with words."

You can certainly traumatize someone with just words. The effects can be the same or worse.

From Kindergarten to 3rd grade there are no homosexuals. Maybe in a few cases but most gay people do not know they are gay until sometimes around puberty. And yes, I know gay people. I used to live in the San Francisco Bay Area. If you don't know gay people in the Bay Area then you are living under a rock.

Gay kids in 3rd grade and younger are not being threatened because like I said most of them don't even know they are gay. Kids that young don't comprehend sexual attraction.

"Do we need to adjust the curriculum..." Adjust??? LGBT concepts IS an ADJUSTMENT to the curriculum. The curriculum is about education not social engineering. LET THE PARENTS SOCIALLY ENGINEER THEIR OWN CHILDREN.

Your "well-intentioned people" have no right or responsibility to raise other people's children.

Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to other people's children. Your well-intentioned ideas to some parents are considered dangerous, perverse or corrupt. It does not matter of you are right or not, you have no right to tell parents how to raise their children.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!!

Maybe you would understand it better if I were to show you exactly what you are doing.

Let's suppose that the school passed a law that said Baptist theology should not be taught to kids in the 3rd grade or younger.

All of the sudden there is an outrage by "well-intentioned people" who think Baptist theology is good for all children.

It doesn't matter if it is or isn't, it is not the right or responsibility of the teacher or anyone else to teach Baptist theology to someone else's kids.

This does not mean that Baptist kids are going to now be persecuted because religion isn't fully understood at that young of an age.

Do you get it now? The messages may or may not be wrong but your intention is definitely wrong.

The state does not own our children. The state is, therefore, should be prohibited from teaching our children anything that the parents would object to.
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If kids as young as 3 can recognize their gender identity I think a good number of kids below 8 can recognize same-sex attractions.

For someone who cares so much about abused kids, you’re literally defending abusive parents here and insisting no one else has a right to teach the kids something different.

If LGBTQ content isn’t currently being taught to children, then there really is no purpose for this bill, now is there? You are concerned about the power of the state but don’t care that this bill is so vague and would embolden the state to interpret and enforce it however it wants.

If children were actually being groomed in the classroom or were victims of a sexually predatory teacher, there are obviously already laws against that. This bill will only harm LGBTQ kids, make them feel that their identities are wrong, eliminate a safe place to feel comfort and develop understanding of their feelings and character. How the hell can you not see how that would harm the development of an LGBTQ child? You don’t think they will have problems accepting themselves? This bill is so obviously anti-LGBTQ.

Schools used to get backlash for teaching evolution. Should parents be allowed to sue over that, too? Some parents don’t want their kids going to school with racial minorities. Should the school have to bend over and cater to that demand, too? Your arguments are ridiculous.
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How is it abusive for parents to not teach them about LGBT issues?

All schools try to protect children from bullies. Do gay kids need more protection than other kids?

Maybe a small handful of kids as young as 3 might recognize their gender identity but do they understand it. Do they comprehend what it means?

It is your kind of thinking that causes parents to give their kids sex changes or hormone therapy just because they think their child is transgendered. That is child abuse. They don't know if that child is going to grow up to be transgendered.

"This bill will only harm LGBTQ kids, make them feel that their identities are wrong"

How? How will this harm any kid? The bill is to keep LGBT issues out of the classroom, not replace it with instruction that all of that is wrong.

"How the hell can you not see how that would harm the development of an LGBTQ child?"

How can you see that it does harm them. It is the omission of information that does not belong in the schools. He never did belong in schools.

If this is such a concern then the solution is to open your own private school where LGBT kids can feel safe. Then parents can CHOOSE to send their kids there or not.

For this bill to be anti-LGBTQ then it would require schools to teach that LGBT is bad. It does no such thing. It just gives the parents their rights back.

Yes schools did get backlash about teaching evolution and that is exactly what I am talking about. They took the right of the parent away from them if that parent believed in Creationism. Evolution is a theory but it is being pushed as scientific fact. If it was taught as a theory, just one possible answer to where life begin then the backlash would not have been so severe. But it was forced on schools and taught as fact and Christian parents revolted.

Did the schools have that right? No. Evolution should always be taught as just one possible answer in PUBLIC schools. The government must never force one opinion over another on school kids when they specifically know that the parents will disagree. This is not a Communist nation, let's keep it that way.

This is supposed to be a free country. Not a nation where you are forced to believe one certain way. You can believe whatever you want and you can be a flat out wrong as you want and live your entire life that way. There are a whole lot of people who believe in UFO's or that the earth is flat. They are wrong but they are free to believe it.
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When discussion about LGBTQ issues and existence is barred from the classroom, LGBTQ kids will feel stigmatized and like their identities are wrong.

Evolution is confirmed fact you nut.

This bill is not about parental rights. It’s obvious in the language you and other conservatives use when talking about it. An early version of the bill would have required principals to out gay kids to their parents. Don’t tell me it’s not an anti-LGBTQ bill.
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"Evolution is confirmed fact you nut."

I'm the nut? You're not a dumb guy but seriously. You might want to review the scientific process and see if evolution is a fact.

There is a whole lot of research that has built up on the idea of evolution but there are still some very glaring missing components in it. When was the last time science observed a fish evolved into a dog? In order for it to be a fact it must be repeatable and observable.

The bill is just about not teaching about LGBT issues to Kindergarten through 3rd grade. I didn't think it mentioned parental rights but I haven't read the bill. But the reason the bill exists in the first place is because the state legislature responded to the people.

Why is this such an end of the world issue for you anyway. Why is it so important that this be taught in school? Teaching these issues is NOT going to stop bullies from being bullies. There will always be bullies. Even schools with a zero tolerance toward bullies cannot stop bullying. Wouldn't the better solution be to toughen the child rather than hide them from bullies? Why are safe spaces so important? Shouldn't the child learn to develop their own self-worth rather than be coddled. I am saying this as one who was bullied as a kid. I am probably older than you. I didn't like it then but I think it added, rather than detracted, to my character as an adult. I don't back down anymore.

If the parents don't love their kids who show gay tendencies then they have a problem but once again, the children do not belong to the state, they belong to the parents.

Freedom is not always pretty and it definitely is not fair or equal. Regardless freedom is the only thing more precious than life.
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So we can teach kids about heterosexual people from history, but not the gay ones? Sounds Orwellian and incredibly heteronormative.
2 ups, 3y,
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Says nothing about not teaching on historical figured based on their sexuality. Only courses directly about sex and sexual orientation.
Nice try man
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No, it’s prohibiting instruction about “sexual orientation” or “gender identity”, and triggered parents can sue if they think their child has received any of this education.

You should know this is obviously very vague and open to interpretation. A similar bill in Tennessee would scrub textbooks and eliminate instruction that touches on “LGBT issues or lifestyle“. Yeah, I’m sure LGBT history won’t be erased there at all. 🙄
2 ups, 3y,
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My last sentence and your first sentence we said the same thing essentially but you had first made the point about nit being allowed to teach about someone if they were gay. That's inaccurate.

I have heard a small bit about Tennessee and it is for all ages. That isn't acceptable. Now prohibiting promotion of one life style or the other is bad. It should be education and resources of support to an extent and parents should know what's going on as similarly to the Florida bill
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If the Florida bill is signed into law, do you really think a teacher is going to feel comfortable talking about a gay figure from history, or different LGBT rights movements? They could lose their job and be sued by a parent.
1 up, 3y
I sure what like to see a PreK, K, 1st, 2nd, 3rd standard curriculum that has LGBT rights in it. Quite the stretch your doing
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You do realize gay people exist, don't you? I learned what gay is way back in first grade, back when it was being thrown around by everyone as an insult. I really don't see a problem with telling kids "men can like men and women can like women"

As long as they don't tell kids about sex at that age, let them teach children what it is. It takes less than ten minutes
2 ups, 3y
Like the Knight who says ni says, it's the parents job until a certain point when it is appropriate for schools to provide in depth teaching on it...called sex ed.
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2 ups, 3y
The point of the bill is that sexuality of any kind, if it is to be taught to K thru 3rd grade is the sole responsibility of the parents. The state has no right to teach that to kids that young.

It doesn't matter if kids use it as a derrogatory word. Must gays don't know they're gay at those ages.

And it certainly is not the business of anyone not living in the state. If you do live in the state and you have kids in that age group, their is nothing to prevent you from teaching your own kids about it. You can give your kids all sorts of emotional scars and no one will stop you.
0 ups, 3y
Teaching gay stuff is gay
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