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John Hopkins University Study vs The Lockdown Lovers

John Hopkins University Study vs The Lockdown Lovers | "Lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."; JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY STUDY:; THE SOCIAL CONTROL-LOVING LEFT: | image tagged in john hopkins university,covid-19,pandemic,mandates,lockdowns,propaganda | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups, 2y,
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C'MON MAN, THESE POLICIES ARE WILDLY UNPOPULAR.  THEY'RE GONNA COST US THE MIDTERMS. BEST I CAN DO IS NO MORE T-SHIRT OR ETSY MASKS. | image tagged in president joe biden on the phone | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 2y
lol
6 ups, 2y
You can't handle the truth | LIBERALS CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH | image tagged in you can't handle the truth | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
6 ups, 2y
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6 ups, 2y,
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even people who should be wise enough to see past the propaganda are so emotional about: "If everyone would SHUT UP AND DO AS THEY ARE TOLD it would be over by now! It's the anti-masker's fault!!!" After 2 years, I'm kinda tired of listening to and heeding lies.
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5 ups, 2y
Exactly.
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Yup... they hid the truth...
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4 ups, 2y
Sure did.
3 ups, 2y
1 up, 2y,
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LMAO

That quote is being flaunted around as the easily digestible, oversimplified conclusion of the "John Hopkins University study", but they don't mention a single name, ever, almost as if the university itself was typing it using whatever buildings use to interact with the small, hard plastic buttons that give keyboards the first half of their name.

First of all, it's a non peer reviewed study with a focus on economics, which authors don't know anything about any of the scientific fields involved in medical research, they just selectively quote papers by other people, without them acknowledging their veracity (which is another way of saying that it's not reviewed by the peers they're cherry pickingly quoting).

You know why nobody, not even Tucker Carlson nor Bill Maher, had the decency to mention the names of the people (SHIAMALAN TWIST, It was people, not the University itself, buildings don't write articles ya silly goose!!!, they don't write with pencils either, they don't write at all!!!) that wrote that "John Hopkins study" being flaunted about so much.

Those, definitely guys, not buildings, are the crooked non Christmas-y villains of our messed up, out of season carol, or the Three Unwise Men, if you will.

The first is PhD Steve H. Hanke, a professor of Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins University, and a Senior Fellow at the, dramatic pause, libertarian think tank, Cato, mofokin' Institute.

They also forgot to mention that the other two authors of the "John Hopkins University study", are Jonas Herby, described in the paper as a special advisor at the Center for Political Studies in Copenhagen (oops, not John Hopkins, and not even America, in fact, a European country that took lockdowns seriously and is recovering better than the US) in Denmark, and PhD Lars Jonung, who is a professor emeritus in economics at Lund University, Sweden (OOOOPS, the country that tried the natural immunity thing and, fortunately, realized sooner than later how much they were about to f**k it up).

So, a John Hopkins University study, that was not peer reviewed by the John Hopkins University's medical professionals they're selectively quoting, authored by only 1 out of 3 actual guys from John Hopkins University, and they're not even a doctor or a researcher, they're an economist, whom also works for the Cato Institute, known for doing this kind of crap.

Meme Rekt and Fakcheckt.
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5 ups, 2y,
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You are good at reciting the "scientific" and media voices that gain the most from the generous purse-strings of the pharmaceutical industry. Cry the sky is falling, Chicken Little. People aren't as gullible as you want to think.
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4 ups, 2y,
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Interesting that Brandon and blue state governors and mayors have so fervently kept up what you describe to be a "tRump" policy.
5 ups, 2y
the strictest/longest Lock downs were State by State... almost to the one, Blue States

TP shortages were hoarders pregaming said lock downs... the current shit show, pun intended is about supply chain issues
3 ups, 2y,
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Sorry... that's a lie... it was democrat governors who locked down... Trump banned flights from China...
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0 ups, 2y,
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sorry but you lack facts.

That same day, HHS and the White House National Security Council produced a memo warning that stay-at-home orders and widespread closures could become part of the nationwide effort to stop Covid-19 from spreading, according to The New York Times.

These warnings turned into a reality just weeks later, when much of the country was shut down to enforce social distancing.
0 ups, 2y,
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sorry... but you don't know the federal government cannot lockdown states...
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0 ups, 2y,
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the order came from tRump and the WH. governors chose whether to follow it or not. sorry...
0 ups, 2y,
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LOL
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0 ups, 2y
"The president's policy says you can't start to reopen under his plan until you have declining numbers for 14 days," Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, a Republican, said on CNN's "State of the Union." LMAO! keep trying!!!
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2 ups, 2y,
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He definitely should have kicked Fraudci to the curb. Now if only Brandon would just do what he failed to do, huh? And while he's at it ask the pharmaceutical corps to stop their false narratives. And also tell those Dem governors and mayors to give up their authoritarian mandates.
4 ups, 2y,
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Nope. The vaxxed are the ones dying. They are counting anyone they don't know the status of as unvaxxed for the purposes of death and hospital stays.
4 ups, 2y,
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Hospitals are starting to do their own numbers and they are finding that the vaxxed are dying of all causes at a greater percentage than the percentage of people vaxxed, including covid. That means that 60% of the people are vaxxed and 90% of the people in the hospitals dying of various causes including covid in one hospital. You can research the others.
2 ups, 2y,
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Yup... and what they're not telling you is that the majority of people admitted to hospitals were for heart issues... not Covid...
0 ups, 2y
Yes, heart issues caused by the vaccine which gives you all the bad stuff from covid without giving you covid.
0 ups, 2y,
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I believe my friend's heart specialist over any misleadia bs you can regurgitate... so
0 ups, 2y
"Like I said... I'll believe the doctor... he works in the hospital..."

See that's the issue. Because you think your doctor is an expert, you believe what they say.
In reality your doctor's not a virologist or a vaccine specialist. He's literally just repeating what the CDC told them to say.
This is known as an appeal to authority fallacy.
0 ups, 2y
"From your very link

What was claimed
About 80-90% of those hospitalised with Covid-19 are unvaccinated.

Our verdict
This used to be true. The figure now is more like 35%..."

Yes, if 35% are unvaccinated, that means 65% are vaccinated. Which is currently more than the percentage of vaccinated people. Please try to keep up.
0 ups, 2y,
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https://fullfact.org/health/economist-vaccination-status/
0 ups, 2y
LOL... He knows what percentage of the patients are in for heart issues... The CDC does not... OOPS
0 ups, 2y
Like I said... I'll believe the doctor... he works in the hospital...
0 ups, 2y
From your very link

What was claimed
About 80-90% of those hospitalised with Covid-19 are unvaccinated.

Our verdict
This used to be true. The figure now is more like 35%."

This is what it says on top of the page, which is a format followed by most, if not all fact checking agencies, before proceeding to explain in detail.

Furthermore:

"The report did say that 83.7% of Covid patients admitted to hospital were unvaccinated—but this covered the period between 8 December 2020, when vaccination started, and 28 July 2021. This includes a time of very high hospital admissions around the new year, when few people had been vaccinated.

After discussing the error with us, the Economist also drew our attention to the notes on the meeting when this research was discussed, in which SAGE says: “For patients admitted after 16 June 2021 (by which time vaccination rates in adults were high) the majority of patients had received two doses. This is to be expected, as SAGE has noted previously.”

The vaccines substantially, but not perfectly, protect these people from severe illness. As a result, some still become ill enough to need treatment in hospital. And this small share of a large population is now enough to make up a majority of hospital admissions."

It's not a debunking, it's a statistical update from what was known up until half a year from now, and it doesn't say anything about the vaccines I haven't said so myself.

The virus is the same, and vaccinated people are still getting less hospitalizations than the unvaccinated, which is NOT, the fact your source was trying to check in the first place, just that The Guardian was being inaccurate in their statistics reporting, which they went out of their way to collaborate with both FullFact and their initial source, SAGE.

Sorry but your source didn't really check the fact you thought it was checking.

You still gotta pass the disease first, and the latest study i've found about Covid's natural immunity being better against variants, was conducted before booster shots were widely available, and the emergence of Omicron, which now accounts for the vast majority of new cases in the US.

Even if healthy.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-covid-19-younger-adults-are-at-risk-too

Less likely so of course, but not impossible, and the longer the disease goes around in unvaccinated folks, the greater the chances for a new mutation, deadlier for everyone.
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5 ups, 2y
Are you unable to find the John Hopkins study conclusions on your own?
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