Israeli Studies - Natural Immunity verses Alleged "Vaccines"

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Interesting that the country that reports the highest amount of vaccine injury has such a lax mask policy
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-is-the-new-hitler-israelis-protest-invasion-outside-russian-embassy/

Well... perhaps they're familiar with more that 20 years of peer reviewed science...that unanimously shows that anything less than a P100 Respirator is useless for preventing infection, and medically contra-indicated, outside of a clinical, or an acute care setting...

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/manipulation-guilt-shame-vaccine-compliance/

Something something Correlation implies direct causation between the thickness of the tinfoil hat and the lack of credibility of your nothing burger sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-48000-idUSL1N2R41J6

Wait a minute, another bullshit conspiracy by the same Thomas Renz? Damn son! you're working (probably for free XD, what a mark) for a professional grifter.

Congratulations, you're helping the scum of the Earth!!

The facts remain. Thomas Renz isn't the source of this information - The DoD's DMED system is...He's just the Lawyer for at least 3 WHISTLEBLOWERS - all of whom work directly with patients. Am I correct that the ONLY "whistleblowers" that you listen to are Ukrainian NAZIS and CIA Spooks like Eric Ciarramella, or that fake Whistleblower from Facebook - demanding more DNCIA Censorship?

And the attempts at obfuscation are laughable. Are you SERIOUSLY quoting "Thompson-Reuters" (a CIA and Event201 partner) as your source here?

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/20/reuters-bbc-uk-foreign-office-russian-media/

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/08/04/twitter-uk-cia-reuters-censorship/

A 1000% increase in Neurological disorders, and 300+% increase in Cancers... Is an UNMISTAKABLE warning signal... All of the hand-waving in the world, can't make that disappear.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccines-miscarriages-cancer-neurological-disorders-military/

Talk.about being a MARK!!! You're working for DARPA, BigPfharma, Gates/GAVI, and the DavosWEF/Klaus Schwab 4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION/"Great Reset" - aka "Build Back Better"... Good luck with that. Get back to me in 2030 - and will see how that worked out for you...

Bizarre
I thought Granduoso had deleted his post asking me where natural immunity came from.
He's obviously a shill

That study is bunk

"According to Malik, data from the UKHSA show that people who received two or three doses of a COVID-19 vaccine are “more likely” than the unvaccinated to contract the disease.

“I want to focus on some of the data that’s coming out because we’re told: ‘Take this vaccine to protect your patients,’” he said in the interview.

While it is true to say UKHSA data show unadjusted case rates are higher in the vaccinated population compared with the unvaccinated (see table 13 here, and table 12 here), the figures do not suggest vaccines themselves increase susceptibility to COVID-19 infection.

The UKHSA’s weekly vaccine surveillance report, which publishes rates of COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people, uses population data from the National Immunisation Management System (NIMS) – the limitations of which are highlighted by the agency on page 42, here, and discussed by Reuters in a previous check here.

A November blog written by Mary Ramsay, a consultant epidemiologist and head of the Immunisation, Hepatitis and Blood Safety department at UKHSA, warned against making simple comparisons between case rates, saying they can reflect a population’s behaviour and exposure to COVID-19 rather than vaccine efficacy (here)."

"Here"
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-britain-idUSL1N2UE1SI

"Here"
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1045329/Vaccine_surveillance_report_week_1_2022.pdf

And "Here"
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-britain-idUSL1N2RP229

Now mald all you want, your lies are so easy to destroy it almost makes me feel bad.

I can explain to y'all vaccines and natural immunity work just the same with my own words, so I can save you hours of reading, or you can block me and admit this stream is little more than a Echonservative chamber.

Lmao I know what's going to happen but I don't care, I'm doing this one for fun at this point, I know this is the diametrical opposite to preaching to the choir.

False

What an argumentative genius...

You prefer failed Jedi Mind Tricks, Hand Waving, nonspecific references to some post where you claim that something was "debunked" (even though it wasn't - or you'd put a specific link) and the appeal to CIA Disinformation Front as "authority" - as you have above.

I'm not gonna put a link, do your own research like I did, and it's as easy as looking at my post history, find where I'm not debunking something, and point to it.

Ah yeah, it's easier to just make the assertion without going through the effort of actually working on the assertion.

I already did the effort and it's registered in my comment's history, I'm not gonna do it twice, I'm neither your office assistant, nor your private teacher.

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Bullshit. You say you proved something - post the link - or eventually you're going to get deleted and RUN from this group. Nobody needs to go through your pedantic sophistry to figure out which nonsense you're referring to, but you.

Here's a tip - put a link - or cut and paste the arguments. The HASBARAH and Perception Management PSYOPS TRADECRAFT, and not so subtle ad hominem arguments that you've posted so far, in this thread - are entirely unconvincing. His one word response seems like plenty more time than a reply to you deserves. But we've seen that there's a one-way Global "Moderator" that covers for you ... That's not going to work, in this stream. "TRUTH" is the groundrule here. Handwaving and unsubstantiated claims are in defiance of our community standards. Put up your evidence...or go elsewhere. Those are your choices.

I've included some of the meme comments that your low standard bearer didn't want seen, seemingly - since your crappy comments were left in place, while the proportionate and proper responses to them, were not. Don't worry - I have some more, still.

Nice contradiction between your first and second paragraph. Typical circular logic of card stacking

Ya, good thing vaccines came out in the 50's
Mankind could have died long before we climbed out of the trees and into the caves.

No but a lot of people wouldn't have died of diseases that, from the 50's onward, we considered nuisances instead of a city wiper from olden times.

You're making jokes with history but you don't even history, bruh.

The Black Death Wiped out Half of London - but those who survived retained all of the rights that free people in this country had, in 1776.

In case you're interested in being educated by a Dr., that isn't completely bamboozled by Bill Gates' and the Faucist orthodoxy on Vaccines (or even the coerced/forced Human Medical Experimentation mRNA Gene Therapy, that you're $hilling for, here)
perhaps look into this book... https://dissolvingillusions.com/

Or some of the facts unearthed and published in RFK Jr's heavily suppressed, but so far unchallenged best seller "The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health"

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-Fauci-Democracy-Childrens-ebook/dp/B08X5YWRRP

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/jimmy-dore-rfk-jr-bestseller-the-real-anthony-fauci/

Lmao you're not unearthing any facts, just manufacturing a fantasy that Bill Gates prefers people to believe, rather than giving him heat for refusing to make a deal with Oxford University, to keep the patents for a vaccine he didn't even put a single dime to develop.

You're Bill Gate's lackey defending right wing conspiracies over left wing economic analysis.

You're the shill here bucko, you're the elite, this entire stream might as well be, financed by some think tank that's in turn financed by Bill Gates or some other Fortune 500 labor parasite.

Really!?!? So you think that your "Safe and Effective" EXPERIMENTAL mRNA injections causing CANCER is "Mild"? WTF!?!? Great. Let's give it to newborns and kids whose risk from Covid is so low as to be unquantifiable - particularly when we factor in the dangers posed to them by Iatrogenic disease and death - based upon the rejection of safe and effective, PROVEN early treatment protocols - for expensive, toxic treatment protocols like Remdesivir - with proven dangers, but no demonstrated benefits.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/newly-released-pfizer-documents-reveal-covid-jab-dangers/5774926

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/remdesivir

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/are-the-official-covid-19-treatment

https://flccc.substack.com/p/the-white-houses-new-recipe-for-disaster

You're LYING - and your inability to provide proof of this alleged "debunking" that you claim to have done is noted. So...now that we've established those two facts - and your tendency to Harrass and "SeaLion" - please show good cause why you shouldn't be "banned" from posting here, along with getting these questionable personal attacks deleted?

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-real-domestic-terrorists

B-B-But he's a Liberal, yo

You make assumptions about immune systems and you know nothing about them

No, I'm explaining how immune systems work.

I'm following the literature, you're the one basing everything in assumptions, and performative agit prop.

Like, seriously, do you even read yourselves before saying anything?

Yes the Big Pharma literate.
Pat yourself on the back for me, please

LMAO

The science literate.

Big Pharma is a business model for medical science, not medical science itself.

Try harder.

Just keep getting your boosters

Where do you think natural immunity comes from then, if not from what your organism learns from the invading pathogens?

Do your white blood cells draw a pentagram on the ground with the blood of the fallen invaders and summon the genetic knowledge from the fifth dimension of knowledge?

Come on man, you must know something about the relationship between genetics and the immune system that would revolutionize modern science, otherwise you wouldn't be so confident, right?

Ah yeah, you sound confident so the lie is more convincing XD, it's what everybody around here seems to do anytime they're confronted by reality.

You must be unaware that Coronaviruses MUTATE - which is why Vaccines against them are so ineffective - as proven by the data from Scotland (before they stopped releasing) - which showed NEGATIVE EFFECTIVENESS, for the injected, versus these viruses and variants - meaning MORE LIKELY to become infected, and the the jabbed with WORSE OUTCOMES than the unjabbed. And that's not even mentioning all of the deadly and dangerous ADVERSE EVENTS, that are neither "Rare" nor "Mild". All too common in fact - with generally about a 40% increase, in all-cause mortality amongst the jabbed, over the unjabbed.

From Attorney Jeff Childers' Covid and Coffee Blog:
"A new German study reports a correlation between higher injection rates and higher EXCESS MORTALITY in sixteen studied countries. The researchers said:

“The correlation is + .31, is amazingly high and especially in an unexpected direction. Actually, it should be negative, so that one could say: The higher the vaccination rate, the lower the excess mortality. However, the opposite is the case and this urgently needs to be clarified. Excess mortality can be observed in all 16 countries…”

Oh dear. That’s not too good for business.

Because it might be hard to find, here’s a link to the German study in PDF form (auto-translated into English): https://tinyurl.com/3z9yfp5v "

So after 24 hours... Let the Record reflect that your claims are STILL unproven.

But since this Court is exceedingly lenient (even to what appears to be deliberately dishonest, "Sealioning" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning , Trolls) and wishes to preserve the Free exchange of honest ideas, wherever that is possible... And despite your apparent CONTEMPT of previous Orders to Show Good Cause (as with this one)...and in spite of what appears to be blatant dishonesty, ad hominem argumentation, and attempts to mislead the people who visit this stream...

It is HEREBY ADJUDGED and ORDERED - that you shall only banned for a TEMPORARY period, against posting further comments, in keeping with a system PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE.

Reflecting upon the Record, it appears that you were previously given an exceedingly short (generous) 2 hr ban upon posting comments here. This time, your ban will be longer. But it will not be made PERMANENT - unless it is later found that you have persisted in the proscribed behavior here,in violation of the standards of this stream - which emphasizes TRUTH - and not hand waving, or nonspecific references to inferred "Debunking"s. So you are hereby warned - that the regrettable consequence of a Permanent Ban, is both possible and LIKELY - if you persist in these acts of CONTEMPT.

So if you're a "Biology Teacher" - you should know how to PROVE something. And you haven't done that yet. WTF are you claiming made this post "debunk itself"?!?! Because the Israelis are now coming down with VAIDS. So I'm going to give you 12 hours to demonstrate your facile arguments, with a Syllogism - or I'm going to delete this and decide whether you get banned from this group... Because you're LYING - and that's a violation of our community standards.

And NO. I'm citing REAL INFORMATION and analysis, from legit sources, medical and scientific professionals - like in the posts above, for which you have no credible answers. James Lyons-Weiler Phd. - is a Biology Teacher. Dr. Peter McCullough MD, is one of the MOST published cardiologists/doctors/researchers in the world.

What you are not actually demonstrating, but merely asserting - is a "theory" - DISPROVEN BY THE EVIDENCE. Dr. Geert Vanden Bosche, a top Vaccinologist - has already shown why the LEAKY (non-sterilizing) mRNA Gene Therapy "Vaccines" actually CREATE new variants - through evolutionary pressure - when you try to "Vaccinate" your way out of a Pandemic.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/meeting-of-the-c-19-giants-geert-vanden-bossche-amp-dr-robert-malone-md_Vj46Wheeddumly1.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ekEOxVvoeg4

Natural immunity is natural.
Funny how they called it that, isn't it? Lol!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA