Antifa should stop lying and drop the "Anti" off their name. They're just "Fa". Everyone knows it and see right through their facade.

oldest trick in the book

that has been done by all politicians throughout the ages, i really don't see how this is new to you guys.

yet they fooled hundreds of conservatives into breaking into the capitol?

Did you just call Antifa "fools". I think you did. You must be a Nazi or something. Hey everyone SSTTUUTTAA just called Antifa a bunch of fools.

the conservatives were the ones fooled by antifa :)

Not really. We saw, by the way they act, that the were the fascists all along.

conservatives who broke in were fascists, yes.

If you mean the people who are trying to conserve America, then NO. What the heck are you thinking? We fought fascism, socialism, Nazism and communism because they are NOT American ideals. We've opposed the terrorist of fascism from the very beginning.

Now little twerps, who know nothing about personal hygiene and can't even tie their own shoes without mommy helping them, are running calling us fascists.

No. Not the rioters, not the protestors and not any other conservative have any relationship with fascism.

Reagan was right.

Before WWII and before the NY Times finally published an article about the atrocities the USSR committed on their own people (that is when the Progressive era all came crashing down) there were little lefties running around proudly exclaiming their love and respect of the men of the future, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.

That is when author H. G. Wells proudly exclaimed that he was a "liberal fascist".

That was before songwriter Cole Porter changed the lyrics of his song, "You're the Top" from the 1934 musical "Anything Goes".

There used to be this line in his song:

"You’re the top!
You’re a Coolidge dollar.
You’re the nimble tread
Of the feet of Fred Astaire,
You’re Mussolini,
You’re Mrs. Sweeney.".

These are leftists. The left has a very long relationship with fascism, Nazism, communism and all other forms of socialism.

These are your guys. These are the ones who laid all of the foundation that you build your safe spaces on.

We have never at any point in history ever had a fascination with Mussolini, Stalin or Hitler. It was Obama who hung a Christmas ornament on the White House tree with Mao Tse Tung's image on it, not a Republican.

In the immortal words of Antoine Dodson, "So you can run and tell that, homeboy".

Bruuuuuuh, mao tse tsung is supposedly communist... Ya know, the og anti fascists. And one more thing, Nazisim does not exist, the nazis were the german fascists. And of course, republicans aren't fascists, who in the f**k aid such a stupid thing, they are capitalists, most of the people who vote for republican presidents at least are. And i will remind you that today's liberals, where yesterday' republicans. Don't get it? Than sit your ass down, i'm gonna tell you a story:

The Republican Party, often called the GOP (short for “Grand Old Party”) is one of two major political parties in the United States. Founded in 1854 as a coalition opposing the extension of slavery into Western territories, the Republican Party fought to protect the rights of African Americans after the Civil War. Today’s GOP is generally socially conservative, and favors smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes and less federal intervention in the economy.

Though America’s Founding Fathers distrusted political parties, it wasn’t long before divisions developed among them. Supporters of George Washington and Alexander Hamilton, who favored a strong central government and a national financial system, became known as Federalists.

By contrast, Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson favored a more limited government. His supporters called themselves Republicans, or Jeffersonian Republicans, but later became known as Democratic-Republicans.

The Federalist Party dissolved after the War of 1812, and by the 1830s the Democratic-Republicans had evolved into the Democratic Party (now the main rival to today’s Republicans), which initially rallied around President Andrew Jackson.

Opponents of Jackson’s policies formed their own party, the Whig Party, and by the 1840s Democrats and Whigs were the country’s two main political coalitions.

Republicans are about as socially conservative as a pair of old Hippies, and never favored smaller government.

Nor are they Capitalists. They are Corporatists (you know, like Fascists), favoring less regulation and lower taxes for their corporate connections and whatever federal intervention in the economy it takes to benefit them, often at the expense of the public.

You're echoing propaganda based on an image that bears little resemblance to reality.

Who am i spreading propaganda for? Do you not realize that i'm just stating facts objectively?

In the 1850s, the issue of slavery—and its extension into new territories and states joining the Union—ripped apart these political coalitions. During this volatile period, new political parties briefly surfaced, including the Free Soil and the American (Know-Nothing) parties.

In 1854, opposition to the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would permit slavery in new U.S. territories by popular referendum, drove an antislavery coalition of Whigs, Free-Soilers, Americans and disgruntled Democrats to found the new Republican Party, which held its first meeting in Ripon, Wisconsin that May. Two months later, a larger group met in Jackson, Michigan, to choose the party’s first candidates for statewide office.

The Republican goal was not to abolish slavery in the South right away, but rather to prevent its westward expansion, which they feared would lead to the domination of slaveholding interests in national politics.

In the 1860 election, a split between Southern and Northern Democrats over slavery propelled the Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln to victory, though he won only around 40 percent of the popular vote.

Even before Lincoln could be inaugurated, seven Southern states seceded from the Union, beginning the process that would lead to the Civil War.

Over the course of the Civil War, Lincoln and other Republicans began to see the abolition of slavery as a strategic move to help them win the war. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, and by war’s end, the Republican majority in Congress would spearhead the passage of the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery.

Frustrated by the inaction of Lincoln’s Democratic successor, Andrew Johnson, as well as the treatment of freed blacks in former Confederate states during the Reconstruction era, Radical Republicans in Congress passed legislation protecting the rights of blacks, including civil rights and voting rights (for black men).

These Republican Reconstruction policies would solidify white Southerners’ loyalty to the Democratic Party for many decades to come.

During Reconstruction, Republicans would become increasingly associated with big business and financial interests in the more industrialized North. The federal government had expanded during the war (including passage of the first income tax) and Northern financiers and industrialists had greatly benefited from its increased spending.

Because of the Republican Party’s association with business interests, by the early 20th century it was increasingly seen as the party of the upper-class elite.

With the rise of the Progressive movement, which sought to improve life for working-class Americans and encourage Protestant values such as temperance (which would lead to Prohibition in 1919), some Republicans championed progressive social, economic and labor reforms, including President Theodore Roosevelt, who split from the more conservative wing of the party after leaving office.

Republicans benefited from the prosperity of the 1920s, but after the stock market crash of 1929 ushered in the Great Depression, many Americans blamed them for the crisis and deplored their resistance to use direct government intervention to help people. This dissatisfaction allowed Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt to easily defeat the Republican incumbent, Herbert Hoover, in 1932.

The relief programs included in FDR’s New Deal earned overwhelming popular approval, launching an era of Democratic dominance that would last for most of the next 60 years. Between 1932 and 1980, Republicans won only four presidential elections and had a Congressional majority for only four years.

Though the centrist Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was president from 1953 to 1961, actively supported equal rights for women and African Americans, a conservative resurgence led to Barry Goldwater’s nomination as president in 1964, continued with Richard Nixon’s ill-fated presidency and reached its culmination with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980.

The South saw a major political sea change starting after World War II, as many white Southerners began migrating to the GOP due to their opposition to big government, expanded labor unions and Democratic support for civil rights, as well as conservative Christians’ opposition to abortion and other “culture war” issues.

Meanwhile, many black voters, who had remained loyal to the Republican Party since the Civil War, began voting Democratic after the Depression and the New Deal.

After running on a platform based on reducing the size of the federal government, Reagan increased military spending, spearheaded huge tax cuts and championed the free market with policies that became known as Reaganomics.

In foreign policy, the United States also emerged the victor in its long-running Cold War with the Soviet Union. But as the economy began to show signs of weakness, the growing national debt helped foster popular dissatisfaction with Reagan’s successor, George H.W. Bush.

The GOP recaptured the White House in 2000, with the highly contested victory of Bush’s son, George W. Bush, over Democratic contender Al Gore. Though initially popular, particularly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Bush administration lost support thanks to growing opposition to the war in Iraq and the faltering economy during the Great Recession.

After Democrat Barack Obama became the first African American to be elected U.S. president in 2008, the rise of the populist Tea Party movement harnessed opposition to Obama’s economic and social reform policies to help Republicans gain a large majority in Congress by 2014.

The 2016 election, in which Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton, left Republicans in control of the White House, Senate, House of Representatives and a majority of state governorships. Democrats gained control of the House in the 2018 midterm elections and in September 2019, a formal impeachment inquiry was launched against President Trump for allegedly attempting to involve Ukraine in the 2020 presidential election.

President Trump was impeached on December 18, 2019 on two articles—abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. On February 5, 2020, the Senate voted to acquit Trump on both charges. Trump was again impeached on January 13, 2021, for his role in the January 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Trump became the first president in U.S. history to be impeached twice. Trump lost his re-election bid in the 2020 election and left office on January 20, 2021.

Communism, fascism and Nazism are all just minor variations of socialism. They all share the exact same foundation.

Hitler called himself a socialist a bunch of times.

Gabriele d’Annunzio invented fascism. Mussolini became a huge fan and made d’Annunzio'a fascism the political/economic system of Italy. Gabriele d’Annunzio was the first one they called "Il Duce". After Mussolini came power Italy gave that name to him.

No, they're not.
And this has been explained to you many a time.

Why do you keep repeating the same lies, bot?

Those aren't Leftists, those are Right Wingers, who have always favored a centralized authority mandating all tiers of society because social hierarchy is basic human nature, nay, the nature of all things, and a retreat to that IS the very essence and purpose of Conservatism.

Did you read my WHOLE story, because you should.

It's not YOUR story, it's a copypaste.

you don't say?

"kirbo777 10h

Did you read my WHOLE story, because you should"

You sure didn't.

paranoia! wow! no, they aren't "my" guys.
my guys are in scandinavia :) free medial and paid isolation = no lockdowns :)
your guys said we should be like them, no lockdowns, right?

so we have some leftists. they are not in power.

warhol's mao ornament on obamas tree - WOW, that's ALL you got?
what about reagan's ornament on obamas tree? - crickets

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2009/12/the-great-christmas-ornament-scandal-part-2.html

Haven't I told you about Obama's connection and love of communism? How he said in one of his books that when in college he "sought out Marxist professors". How he met Michelle at one of the Marxist events they both attended.

If you're guys are in Scandinavia then move there. Stop trying to turn America into Scandinavia. We want MORE freedom, not LESS freedom.

have you ever been outside your country? cruise doesn't count.

Note how he keeps repeating "we Americans"
I doubt he's ever been inside the USA.

AND WHAT IS SO DAMN WRONG WITH COMMUNISM? IS IT THE FACT THAT EVERYONE IS EQUAL, OR THE EASINESS OF LIFE IN A FUNCTIONING COMMUNIST SYSTEM THAT GETS YOU? And scandinavian countries are the most free countries in the world, freedom of expression, freedom of press and freedom of education, heck, you are even free to f**k a polar bear. It is LIVING, BREATHING, POLAR BAR F**KING PROOF that socialism can work, and damm better than (pure) capitalism.

I've never been on a cruise. What does going outside of the US matter? I have been, by the way, but I fail to see your point.

Is it because while you love Scandinavia you couldn't live there? Is it because they are less free than we are? Is it because they pay higher taxes than we do? Is it because the cost of living is out of control there?

If any of that is true why do you want to bring that here.... Oops too late. The idiot you guys forced on us as president is making all your dreams come true. He's turning us into Scandinavia on his way to building back [much, much, much worse].

HOW IS SCANDINAVIA BAD???

obama was a centrist. nixoncare = obamacare.

you want freeDUMB not freedom.

anything else?

Oh but there is soooo much more I could tell you about Obama.

You don't even understand freedom so how would you know?

The_Knight_Who_Says_Ni, what is freedom?

Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government. Fascists strongly oppose Marxism, liberalism and democracy, and believe the state takes precedence over individual interests.

Fascism is a set of ideologies and practices that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community.

Common themes among fascist movements include: nationalism (including racial nationalism), hierarchy and elitism, militarism, masculinity, and quasi-religion. Other aspects of fascism such as its "myth of decadence", anti‐egalitarianism and totalitarianism can be seen to originate from these ideas.

Here are some fascist dictators:

Mussolini: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

Hitler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

Franco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco

Did you read the wiki pages? Good, now read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism

Now then, this is the most important part:
United States
See also: Fascism in North America
Groups which are identified as neo-fascist in the United States generally include neo-Nazi organizations and movements such as the Proud Boys,[76] the National Alliance, and the American Nazi Party. The Institute for Historical Review publishes negationist historical papers which are often of an anti-semitic nature. The alt-right—a loosely connected coalition of individuals and organizations which advocates a wide range of far-right ideas, from neoreactionaries to white nationalists—is often included under the umbrella term "neo-fascist", because alt-right individuals and organizations advocate a radical form of authoritarian ultranationalism.[77][78]

You see, Fascism has already been in the us, even with Regan, so it doesnt have to take any different form.

Ooooh, i left you speechless.

Incorrect. Big government is in the left of the spectrum and small or no government is on the right. Fascism claims nationalism, but in reality it's just enforced viewpoints, just like communism has.

you're in denial.

like most conservatives.

You shouldn't do it then.

You fail to realize that fascism, socialism, and communism are all flavors of totalitarianism.

roads are socialism.

toll roads are communism.

just like the nazis claiming to be socialist when they were really just conservatives.

Actually, conservativeness in their point of view was nationalism, thus, their name, Natzi or national-socialist. That's what the most depressing thing was, people knew who they were, yet they voted for them.

they believed the hype.

just like qanon.

No. Idiot.

yes idiot.

False.
That IS what Fascism IS, not according to to some Poli-Sci 101 class, but to those who came up with, defined, and established it in their countries or its variants.

They claim its one thing, but you examine their actions and its something else entirely. In the case of Fascism, it's just a more honest form of socialism. Do you really think there is any difference between Fascism, socialism, and communism when all three have totalitarian governments? It's only what they can get the people to accept to let them rule over the people.

No, it's not, quite the opposite, in fact.

Do look things up.

Actually, totalitarian governments mean only one leader, if you read the communist manifesto you will see that marx was completely against there only being one leader, in fact, that was the complete point of communism, everyone being COMPLETELY equal, and there not being kings, emperors or dictators, instead, the decisions should be made by the people no matter their role in society, thus, the communist symbol of the sickle and the hammer, to signify the union in between the farm and factory workers first used by the bolsheviks.

The truth is, there has never been a communist system, most claimed to be communist. People like Pinochet, Stalin, Lenin or Castro warped the meaning of communism for their own needs. On the other hand, there have been many fascist government systems, most famously Adolf Hitler, leader of the Nazis. For this VERY REASON, it is easy to criticise fascism in action, whilst it is very hard to criticise communism in action.

Totalitarian doesn't mean single leader. It means ruled by an unelected unaccountable government. Being led by a single leader is a monarchy.
You keep saying that there has never been a communist nation, but there has, there's been many and they all die out for one simple reason, corruption and no push to innovate. If you all get the same reward no matter how hard you work, then no one is going to work hard or innovate. You can look at the tiny nations that tried 'real' communism and see it in action.

totalitarianism
/təʊˌtalɪˈtɛːrɪənɪz(ə)m,təˌtalɪˈtɛːrɪənɪz(ə)m/
noun
a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

Dictator:
A dictator is a political leader who possesses absolute power. A dictatorship is a state ruled by one dictator or by a small clique. The word originated as the title of a Roman dictator elected by the Roman Senate to rule the republic in times of emergency (see Roman dictator and justitium).

If it's totalitarian, it's not communist.

conservatives who deny fascism is primarily right wing are, well, just being typical conservatives :)

My boi, you are dead wrong. Conservatives, whilst equally shitty as fascists, share many undeniable qualities, but they are not the same.

i'm not saying they are. but the ones saying jan 6 was ok are.

Hmm, yeah, that seems logical.