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Why don't we see more celebration of their culture if they're so proud of it and less villanizing a man they know little about

Why don't we see more celebration of their culture if they're so proud of it and less villanizing a man they know little about | image tagged in columbus day | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
792 views 66 upvotes Made by Kate_the_Grate 2 months ago in politics
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9 ups, 2m,
5 replies
It’s hard to sell most people today on mass human sacrifice to a sun god.
7 ups, 2m,
2 replies
He musta forgotten about the lovely sweet and kind Mohawks.
3 ups, 2m
And Aztecs, and Inca, and Iroqois lol
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
And the cannibalism

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20000907&slug=4041058
0 ups, 1m
europeans engaged in human sacrifice and cannibalism too.

internet search would show you what you don't want to know.
1 up, 2m
And ivanka's incest?
1 up, 2m
nah nah, its pretty easy, just look at gen z
1 up, 2m,
2 replies
columbus didn't discover america any more than somebody in 2021 discovers the internet or sex.
2 ups, 2m
I agree. The indigenous people discovered it thousands of years before.
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Yes. we all know that. The Scots and Vikings were here first.
0 ups, 2m,
2 replies
you know who was here before them?

the natives.
0 ups, 2m
Yes. That is true.
1 up, 2m,
2 replies
1 up, 1m
that would be the original native european.
0 ups, 1m
FUN FACT: Neanderthals still inhabited most of Europe when the ancestors of Native Americas were arriving in North America.
3 ups, 2m,
3 replies
The Native Americans who lived in what is now the United States didn't do that. You're thinking of the Aztecs or Mayans who lived much further south.
6 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Might want to recheck your history book.
3 ups, 2m,
1 reply
which native American tribes sacrificed humans to the sun god?
4 ups, 2m,
4 replies
Caribs didn't do human sacrifice to any god that i've read but I haven't had the pleasure of meeting them. They did however, kill, enslave, rape, pillage and plunder the much kinder Arawaks. Columbus even noted they had battle scars on them and several times came to their rescue. Although he wasn't able to rescue all his original 39 men who died from disease and being killed by the Caribs (maybe it had something to do with the fact these men got what was coming for them by not obeying Columbus' orders to be respectful while he was away. Hmmm. But again Not Columbus' fault!
3 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Actually I've heard the Caribs sometimes ATE the Arawaks....
1 up, 2m
They weren't the only ones

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20000907&slug=4041058
0 ups, 1m
plenty of europeans engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice too.
0 ups, 2m
Then I guess we were right to forcibly convert them to Christianity.
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
Okay, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about Native American tribes in what is now the United States sacrificing humans to a sun god. When did that happen?
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
While not all tribes necessarily cut out people's hearts, they all went to war with each other long before Columbus came. There are also numerous examples of native violence against white settlers, such as the practice of scalping. Some tribes were even known to cut off the fingers of Jesuit missionaries with shells.
1 up, 2m,
2 replies
Yes they fought each other, but I don't know of any that committed human sacrifice to a sun god. That was done by indigenous people further south, the Aztecs and Mayans. That's the only point I was trying to make.

And scalping was done by both sides. Read up on the Sand Creek Massacre and what American troops did to Cheyenne and Arapaho women and children.
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
Who cares what god they were sacrificing to - they participated in ritual sacrifice. The crow god, the horse god, the ulcerated sphincter gods (your ancestors), who cares?

And as far as what settlers did to them, it was in retaliation to what they had done to settlers. I can't say my response would be any different. If someone killed my family - I'd spend every last breath eliminating theirs from the genome.
0 ups, 1m
wine & cracker...
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Did white people ever engage in human sacrifice and cannibalism?
0 ups, 2m
I'm sure they did, but such practices ended long before Columbus arrived on these shores (excepting extreme circumstances, such as the Donner party)
2 ups, 2m
My point was: there was violence before and after Columbus came, and that there was violence on the part of natives as well.
0 ups, 2m,
2 replies
White people didn't engage in cannibalism? Human Sacrifice?
1 up, 2m
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
Last I checked, Christian Europeans did not engage in those things.
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
you didn't check hard enough.

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+christian+europeans+engage+in+human+sacrifice+or+caniballism
1 up, 2m
Mmm.. I did.
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
From pre-1492 until they could no longer sustain the practice.

https://www.amazon.com/Cannibalism-Headhunting-Human-Sacrifice-America/dp/0911469338/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+christian+europeans+engage+in+human+sacrifice+or+caniballism
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
B-b-b-but......nobody cares.
0 ups, 1m
conservative hypocrisy.
6 ups, 2m,
1 reply
You need to research before making comments (as usual)
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
Here's a book, read up

https://www.amazon.com/Cannibalism-Headhunting-Human-Sacrifice-America/dp/0911469338/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
Here's something for you to read up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+white+people+engage+in+cannibalism+and+human+sacrifice
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Ooh, the same comment 3+ times in the same meme.....looks like spam to me.
0 ups, 1m
ooh, somebody who can't handle the truth :)
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2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
So you can't have an adult conversation. I'm sorry for thinking you could.
0 ups, 1m
nope he sure cant :)
7 ups, 2m,
3 replies
Typical former, now anti Catholic rhetoric based on a gross misunderstanding of basic theology.
Besides what has this to do with my post?
3 ups, 2m,
2 replies
I was actually going to delete that after OM saw it, figured you weren't around, haha

It was a reference to both roots (Sol) as well as Roman propaganda about early Christianity, where part of the 'justification' for the persecution was allegations of acts of cannabalism based on those words.

I take it you haven't looked at certain other unrelated comments along the same lines here?
4 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Why would you delete it so I wouldn't see it?
2 ups, 2m
hahaha, you guize, ya got me!

Was wondering what the new Alt Rightie trend of 'not knowing' what a reply to a reply was a reply to and what that intitial reply that was replied to said even though it's just 2 comments up.

Of course the nothing exchange goes on for a couple of days till I get a timer for repeating what the other person said to remind them what they said two days prior which they keep asking me to remind them of because they can't remember yet what they said was so offensive they get to flag me for reminding them that they said it because the latest noo rulez apply only to them because they were the only ones violating the old ones and not those without the mark of the Beast on their head.

These time wasters begin to bore me a lot. I should just ignore notifications from 'the crew'
5 ups, 2m,
2 replies
Modda was aluding to the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist which yes is about the sacrifice of Jesus but is not cannibalism as he seems to think. And Jesus is not the Roman Sun god.
0 ups, 2m
Then why eat the wine and cracker?
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Don't do that. God don't like it. That's why he made it a sin.
2 ups, 2m
What is your point?
2 ups, 2m
Wrong kind of sacrifice.
2 ups, 2m,
3 replies
Christianity is based on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ who is the son of God. In the old testament burnt offerings to God was the way they prayed to him. Once Christ was crucified and rose three days later, burnt offerings of clean animals were not needed.

The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the fact it is devoid of all religion and is instead a personal relationship with God through prayer and worship. The so-call religion of Christianity is a myth which was coined by those who are not Christians as a way to mock and defy Christ and his followers. Religion is bad, Christianity is pure.
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
"Christianity is based on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ who is the son of God"

But that is a human sacrifice

"The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the fact it is devoid of all religion"

Christianity is a religion

"The so-call religion of Christianity is a myth which was coined by those who are not Christians as a way to mock and defy Christ and his followers. Religion is bad, Christianity is pure."

Christianity is a religion
1 up, 2m
You're using the wrong definition of sacrifice. Jesus is the one who was doing the sacrificing, not the Romans.

Jesus could have left the Roman empire to lands where he would have been revered as a great teacher. Instead, he stayed - knowing his life would be forfeit - he sacrificed his own life in order to save humanity. He gave up something important - he gave up his own life for a higher purpose.
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
Then why eat the wine and cracker?
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
To get to the other side? [see what I did there?]
1 up, 2m,
3 replies
LOL
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
Father, Gun, and Chicken Roast!
1 up, 2m
make that a combo (meme)
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
heh heh heh for yours.

Mine here is a little too basic.

Yeah, I left it blank before because it has its potential uses.
1 up, 2m
go with it!
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
"SSTTUUTTAA

make that a combo (meme)"

How's this?

Yeah, I just nuked a few bridges on this site with that one.
They're gonna get this so lowrated, it'll open a quantum singularity to the very depths of Hell then they'll push me into the BBQ,,,
1 up, 2m
if they can kneel, they can pray!

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0 ups, 2m
"The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the fact it is devoid of all religion"

Tell that to Simon Peter the Betrayer,
Saul Paul the Murderer of Christians,
Constantine,
Catholic Church,
Eastern Orthodox Church,
Protestant Churches,
Mennonites,
Amish,
Mormons,
Jehovah Witnesses,
TV Evangelists,
Charles Manson,
Jim Jones,
Rev Sun Myung Moon,
David Koresh,
assorted other cult crazies who say they're Jesus,
and the raging loony third of the USA who declared the Grande Cheeto as the Second Coming, and await the Rapture,,,
2 ups, 2m
btw, all those Catholic schools taught actual history and the sciences, incl biology, evolution, etc, and the fact that the world is not a 6000yo giant frisbee. I never even knew any of this was an issue till recently, and had figured maybe just with home schooled fundamentalist Protestants - certainly not with Catholics.

Heck, Edgar Allan Poe's "The Bells" was inspired by those of the Fordham University Church, which he'd hear when he lived up on Fordham Rd.
Despite him not being a religious man, he used to visit with the Jesuit Priests on campus because at the time, they were the only educated people around, the only folks to have an intellectual discussion with. They didn't pull out their hair when he came by.
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
He wasn't white he was tribal balsamic Italian ;)
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
It cracks me up how these people act like so-called White or European is Northwest Europe despite Europe/Europa originating in Greece and then encompassing the lands ringing the Mediterranean from what is now Southern Europe to the Middle East and onto North Africa.

Yet when it comes to legendary, all they have is Charlamagne, William the Conqueror, Leif Erickson, maybe Mary Queen of Scots, and Queen Victoria for all those quaint houses for grannies to live in - oh, and that Hitler guy which embarrasses them but they also secretly admire because now they can call themselves amazingly awesome Aryans too despite not being Iranian or Indian. And the accomplishments of them folks is just basically conquering territory and cute portraits for museums.

So when any of the notables from Untermenschlund/Swarthylandia come up, break out the trumpets because NOW them non-Whites are transmutatededed into 'Whites' quicker than a Communion Wafer at Mass.
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
wait, they're hypocrites?

always have been :)
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
"Columbus? He was a great man, he opened the Americas up to immigration from Europe!"

also them:

"Colon? Latin Americans of Native descent should say in their own country, they're destroying America!"

If it wasn't for hypocrisy, their veins would be drier than a block of salt baking in the Sahara sun...
1 up, 2m,
3 replies
this deserves a meme :)
1 up, 2m,
1 reply
1 up, 1m,
1 reply
nice!
0 ups, 1m
Thanks.
0 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Thanks.
I just whipped that up now, surprised no one else came up with something similar.
1 up, 1m,
1 reply
i think the story needs more explanation, most don't know what he did or what happened.
1 up, 1m
We have folks forgetting what they posted last week here, who knows what has gotten forgotten by 529 years of deliberate obscuring,,,
0 ups, 2m
I submiited it to:

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3 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Ahh, the Inquisition back in Cristobal Colon's home and the expelling, torturing, and killing of those even suspected of not worshipping a rechristened Sol Invictus?
5 ups, 2m,
2 replies
Got it. You have a six year old’s understanding of history.
0 ups, 1m
and you have one of 2 year old?
5 ups, 2m,
2 replies
That wasn’t what the Spanish Inquisition was about. I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to actually learn about things you run your mouth about.
5 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Again, another modern misconception by those who couldn't care less about learning actual unbiased history 🙄
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
The Spanish Inquisition investigated people for accusations of heresy, true or false?
2 ups, 2m,
2 replies
False. Learn something before you open your mouth.
3 ups, 2m
So what they do, sell Girl Scout cookies to pay for the Crusades?
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300119824/spanish-inquisition

And from the Wikipedia article:
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
It wasn’t a generalized hunt for heresy. It was specifically to root out false converts who were a security risk to the newly liberated Spain. It was at least as much about politics and the state as it was about religion.
3 ups, 2m
It's not the government's job to determine who is a true convert and who isn't
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
“It's not the government's job to determine who is a true convert and who isn't”

First off, you appear to imagine all of history runs on 20th century Western liberalism. Your ignorance is astounding.

Second, which part of “security risk” did you not understand? They were worried that people whose genuine loyalty lay elsewhere might betray them to the Moors and open the way to being conquered again.
3 ups, 2m
"First off, you appear to imagine all of history runs on 20th century Western liberalism"

I'm not saying that's how things were back then, I'm saying that's how things should have been, ideally.

"Second, which part of “security risk” did you not understand? They were worried that people whose genuine loyalty lay elsewhere might betray them to the Moors and open the way to being conquered again."

Sure, that's what they believed. But that doesn't justify what they did in terms of interrogating and ultimately executing thousands of people just because of their religious beliefs
3 ups, 2m,
1 reply
That's right, it was about tea and crumpets while everyone gathered round the no-bodies-in this-fire holding hands, singing Kumbaya!
6 ups, 2m,
1 reply
It’s like some kind of paradox, the less you know about a subject, the more you like to run your mouth about it.
3 ups, 2m,
1 reply
Oh, now that you spelled it out, I can see what you've been doing since, um, you joined?
Although I must admit I am surprised that Spain proved to be not too 'swarthy' to fall into your "****** did nuthin wrong" zone, which natch would have seemed limited to Teutons.

Now can ya sling me yer trademark "13%..." zinger (which, as usual, has nothing to do with anything) so we can wrap this up so we can stop wasting my time?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!
2 ups, 2m,
1 reply
“"13%..." zinger (which, as usual, has nothing to do with anything)”

The families of thousands of murder victims might disagree, but that’s not your problem, right? You’re too busy feeling morally superior to worry about that.
1 up, 2m
There ya go! Got yer routine go-to out and now we can call it a dayee!

Have a happy Cristobal Colon Ain't Italian Anyways And The Dolt Only Got Lost Day! *hugs*

PS: Envy is always so flattering, as well as telling.

toodles!
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