You can also take dump in front of restaurant…

Don't forget, they're shooting the heroin with a needle that my Taxifornia dollars have paid for...

You can't be shocked at this point.

Of course not, Syd. The shock wore off years ago. Now, I'm mostly numb to it. Amazingly, every now and then I manage to work up the energy to let the frustration boil over.

This is the one that, to the extent anything in CA shocks me anymore, still shocks me

Doesn't want any of his butt.. sorry, buddies to get in trouble.

Still lying to people, CR01?

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB239

Misdemeanor for homicide. Wow, that just makes all kinds of difference.

Not.

I defy you to try to rationalize that one to the victims. Go ahead, put your liberal ass to it and try.

And you sure don't bother calling Joe Biden out about REAL lies when he claimed he blew up jihadis instead of civilians.

Or CNN when they said they had proof positive for three years of Russian "collusion."

Or Nancy Pelosi when she claimed the 2019 State of the Union needed to be moved because the Secret Service said they couldn't protect people, and a thousand other lies.

Do that before you even bother with your pathetic lies about me next time.

"Misdemeanor for homicide. Wow, that just makes all kinds of difference."

Thank you for CONFIRMING YOU LIED when you claimed "but intentionally infecting someone with AIDS is no longer even a crime". Have you counted your toes lately? I mean...at this point, you've just about gotta be missing at least one what with all the rounds you've unloaded into your foot... XD

Clearly you're too stupid to grasp the explanations I already made about technicalities vs how actual law enforcement officers deal with things. Let alone what a lie truly is, comical basement loser. Just stop wasting people's time.

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...said Liar CR01 in an fraudulent effort to put himself in the right after stating that deliberately infecting someone with HIV isn't a crime and then turning right around and stating that it is a crime. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! XD

If you turn homicide into a misdemeanor along with jaywalking and littering, yeah.

Had the same argument with antithesis or someone when San Francisco stopped enforcing shoplifting of under $1000. Told their cops to not even bother detaining the thieves.

Oh but it's still technically on the books he bleated, so that mean's it's still REALLY a crime.

Uh huh. Which is why Walgreens SHUT DOWN 17 F**KING STORES ON THE AREA SHORTLY AFTER. I mean, what would they know about decriminalization, right?

So yeah, bullshit. Same in your face too.

Mhmmm...and that counts as a confirmation that lack of enforcement doesn't make something not a crime.

Thank you for confirming (again) that you lied (also again), Liar CR01. XD

Whoosh over the head of liar XiaoJia yet again.

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I never said it wasn't an issue, that's all your fevered, delusional imagination; I called you out for lying that "intentionally infecting someone with AIDS (people can't be infected with AIDS; were you actually the smart person you've attempted to portray yourself as being, you'd know that) is no longer a crime." A misdemeanor is a crime and will always be a crime no matter how many times you lie that it isn't. XD

You like whooshing things over your head multiple times repeatedly, don't you?

If you're fleeing the recognition of the obvious, little point in my trying to explain, or your falsely claiming you weren't rebutted.

....said Liar CR01 after proving himself a liar....again. XD

said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking ignoring issues is the same as answering them.

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"Liar XiaoJia, no you wouldn't, I already have before, and you dodged like crazy. [claiming "dodge" after proving mired in total bullshit]

I did NOT lie about SF, I pointed out the difference between de facto and de jure nature of decriminalization. YOU then lied to call it a lie." [still trying to prove a misdemeanor isn't crime; already proven he's a lying moron]

And we're back to the place where you demonstrate that you can't admit that non-prosecution of statutory violations doesn't make those violations not a crime because doing so would be admitting that you lied. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

"Seattle just DECRIMINALIZED hallucinogenic mushrooms - https://council.seattle.gov/2021/10/04/city-council-affirms-support-for-decriminalization-of-entheogens/ . That's the legal term. Oh sure, it's still on the books, but they instructed their police "that the investigation, arrest, and prosecution of anyone engaging in entheogen-related activities should be among Seattle’s lowest law enforcement priorities." [more pointing to irrelevant bullshit trying to prove that non-prosecution of a statutory violation makes the violation not a crime]

Sh*twits like you scream, "They didn't REALLY decriminalize it, the law's still on the books!!!!!! It's not actually illegal!!!!!" [irrelevant bullshit trying to prove that non-prosecution of a statutory violation makes the violation not a crime]

Denial-infested stupid dishonesty like yours can't be fixed. But I'm sure it'll be a huge consolations to the families of the deliberately infected victims. [proclaiming "denial", calling someone stupid to deflect from own idiocy, resorting to pathos in lieu of valid argument]

Your technicalities still don't help you: you claim victory in the battle and lose all perspective that you've lost the war. [trying to create illusion of victory after repeatedly citing technicalities]

"Nor have you offered a rebuttal which proves the mRNA COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine." Actually I pointed out that competent MD's know the difference. A REAL vaccine would consist of debilitated of killed Covid-19 pathogens. Anything else is an allegedly therapeutic injection. [resorting to orthodoxy-validation after condeming orthodoxy-validation; hypocrisy level: 100%]

"The WHO rewrote their definitions to fit the square peg into the round hole of the Big Pharma scam agenda, but they even had this language still on their site after the ideology purge. THIS is the version they had back in 2019:" [pointing to former WHO definition of "vaccine", obvious chaff--apparently still too stupid to understand undercutting own argument; time to drop the hammer]

"Vaccination is a simple, safe, and effective way of protecting people against harmful diseases, before they come into contact with them. It uses your body’s natural defenses to build resistance to specific infections and makes your immune system stronger.
Vaccines train your immune system to create antibodies, just as it does when it’s exposed to a disease. However, because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs like viruses or bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications." ( https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination ) [posting WHO's definition of "vaccine" apparently in belief that it validates assertion that mRNA COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine; still too stupid to understand undercutting own argument]

So EVERY SINGLE TIME you called me liar for telling the truth about common medical knowledge, you MADE YOURSELF THE LIAR INSTEAD." [obvious attempt at playing the victim and projecting]

Yes, according to the WHO "Vaccines train your immune system to create antibodies" and, by default, things which don't aren't vaccines. Oh, hey...that reminds me: what does the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine do? Oh, that's right, it trains your immune system to create antibodies. Counted your toes lately? Go***mn, you're dense, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. QED LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

"You like whooshing things over your head multiple times repeatedly, don't you?

If you're fleeing the recognition of the obvious, little point in my trying to explain, or your falsely claiming you weren't rebutted."

I'd fully acknowledge a rebuttal if you had one to offer. But -and here's the key thing about a rebuttal- it would have to prove you didn't lie. You've yet to furnish a response which negates the fact that you said "deliberately infecting someone with AIDS [reality: HIV] isn't even a crime." Nor have you offered a comment which proves that a misdemeanor isn't a crime. Deliberately infecting someone with HIV is a misdemeanor, a misdemeanor is a crime, non-enforcement of a statute does not make violation of that statute not a crime. That is reality and you have demonstrated that you're fully aware that a misdemeanor is a crime -which makes every comment you've uttered in defense of your claim that "deliberately infecting someone with AIDS [reality: HIV] isn't even a crime" a lie. That makes you a liar. You lied, you got caught and called out and then apparently got so butthurt that someone actually called you what you are that you opened up a firehose of lies. XD

Nor have you offered a rebuttal which proves the mRNA COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine. The definition of "vaccine" says what it says, the COVID vaccine fulfills multiple points of the definiton; thus, it's a vaccine. That's also reality and you've proven you live in a delusional world where a substance that confers immunity isn't a vaccine just because you don't want it to be. XD

You also said that "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION" and that's another lie you uttered. Were that not a lie, injecting someone with live, unattenuated cowpox virus wouldn't confer immunity to smallpox virus. And yet, injecting someone with live, unattenuated cowpox virus confers immunity to smallpox virus. That is reality and everything coming from you on the subject is either a lie or delusion. As you've demonstrated that you're fully aware of cowpox's immunitive benefits and also its history, that makes every defense of your statement "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION" a lie. That's also reality....which makes you a liar. XD

These aren't difficult or tricky concepts...well...unless someone is delusional or a liar. What was that thing you said about "elementary concepts pretty much don't register? XD

Liar XiaoJia, no you wouldn't, I already have before, and you dodged like crazy.

I did NOT lie about SF, I pointed out the difference between de facto and de jure nature of decriminalization. YOU then lied to call it a lie.

Seattle just DECRIMINALIZED hallucinogenic mushrooms - https://council.seattle.gov/2021/10/04/city-council-affirms-support-for-decriminalization-of-entheogens/ . That's the legal term. Oh sure, it's still on the books, but they instructed their police "that the investigation, arrest, and prosecution of anyone engaging in entheogen-related activities should be among Seattle’s lowest law enforcement priorities."

Sh*twits like you scream, "They didn't REALLY decriminalize it, the law's still on the books!!!!!! It's not actually illegal!!!!!"

Denial-infested stupid dishonesty like yours can't be fixed. But I'm sure it'll be a huge consolations to the families of the deliberately infected victims.

Your technicalities still don't help you: you claim victory in the battle and lose all perspective that you've lost the war.

"Nor have you offered a rebuttal which proves the mRNA COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine." Actually I pointed out that competent MD's know the difference. A REAL vaccine would consist of debilitated of killed Covid-19 pathogens. Anything else is an allegedly therapeutic injection.

The WHO rewrote their definitions to fit the square peg into the round hole of the Big Pharma scam agenda, but they even had this language still on their site after the ideology purge. THIS is the version they had back in 2019:

"Vaccination is a simple, safe, and effective way of protecting people against harmful diseases, before they come into contact with them. It uses your body’s natural defenses to build resistance to specific infections and makes your immune system stronger.
Vaccines train your immune system to create antibodies, just as it does when it’s exposed to a disease. However, because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs like viruses or bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications." ( https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination )

So EVERY SINGLE TIME you called me liar for telling the truth about common medical knowledge, you MADE YOURSELF THE LIAR INSTEAD."

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Waaah!!!! Buh-buh-buh-but Pelosi!!! Buh-buh-buh-but Biden!!!! Drop the whataboutism bullshit, Liar CR01; two wrongs don't put your lies in the right and they never will. As far as "Do that before you even bother with your pathetic lies about me next time." goes, your lie is right there in bright, blazing yellow for everyone to see --so is the link to the the proof you lied. You lose and you will keep losing until you start the sticking to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

You know what's really super-happy-fun-time hilarious? The fact that you said it wasn't a crime in your meme and then turned right around and admitted it was still a crime by specifiying it as a misdemeanor. You just can't help but trip yourself up, can you? XD

Listen to the desperate lawyer-wannabe grabbing for technicalities.

DeCRIMinalization of marijuana makes it still on the books BUT the cops don't bother. Just like shoplifting in libtard San Francisco: less than a thousand dollars, cops won't even stop you. So Walgreens closed up 17 stores. But oh, it's still technically "a crime".

You lose.

And a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION. It's not just "anything you stick in bodies for a fix".

You lose again.

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When you say ""DeCRIMinalization of marijuana makes it still on the books", what does that mean?

I already explained it twice. It has to do with enforcement.

Why make it go over your head a third or fourth time? Seriously?

"Hilarious to watch you say that . . . with absolutely no sense of irony. Right back at you." [ref. boomerang, elements of "irony"]

Of course, there's absolutely no sense of irony; unlike you, I don't say things I don't mean. XD

"said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking deflecting disproof is the same as answering it."

O...M....G.... You don't even understand how the words you typed read to sane people going through the chain of comments, do you? Better duck before that boomerang comes back, now-proven Ignoramus CR01. LOLOLOLOL!!!! XD

Hilarious to watch you say that . . . with absolutely no sense of irony. Right back at you.

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Nope, you've spouted delusional drivel predicated on a lie you uttered. XD

Lack of enforcement doesn't make something not a crime, delusional Liar CR01. XD

De facto and de jure are concepts the law understands...but not delusional slandering liars like you, XiaoJia.

"Listen to the desperate lawyer-wannabe grabbing for technicalities."
"De facto and de jure are concepts the law understands"

So you lied, got caught lying, tried to lie your way out if it, subsequently proved you lied and now you've demonstrated that you're a hypocrite as well....

What's wrong, delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01? All the lies and double-speak catching up with you? XD

said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking deflecting disproof is the same as answering it.

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"DeCRIMinalization of marijuana makes it still on the books BUT the cops don't bother. Just like shoplifting in libtard San Francisco: less than a thousand dollars, cops won't even stop you. So Walgreens closed up 17 stores. But oh, it's still technically "a crime"."

Okay, Liar CR01, let's examine the underlying premise of your argument; by your own argument, a cop standing by and doing nothing make an illegal act not a crime. By extension, a murder which happens right in front of a cop isn't a crime if the cop does nothing, right?

Whoosh over your head again, liar XiaoJia.

"said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking ignoring issues is the same as answering them."

So now you're laying claim to telepathy, too? Eh, why not, right? You've lied about so many other things already, might as well pull out all the stops. XD

Don't need to, sh*t for brains. You put it all in writing for everyone to see.

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...said delusional Liar CR01 proving himself a hypocrite as well as a delusional liar after priorly using the same tactic. XD

said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking ignoring issues is the same as answering them.

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Quite the contrary; by outlining your premise and dissecting it, your lie is illustrated as well as your delusional mind-set. XD

Whoosh twice. The thing about people too stupid to realize they've been rebutted is they don't grasp the explanation that that's what happened either. End of this line.

"Whoosh twice. The thing about people too stupid to realize they've been rebutted is they don't grasp the explanation that that's what happened either. End of this line."

Good self-description, Liar CR01. XD

Aww, poor liar XiaoJia.

Reduced to "no u!!!!!!!!"

Now the laughingstock of imgflip.

"Don't need to, sh*t for brains. You put it all in writing for everyone to see." [reference to telepathy]

And yet you did it anyway. Of course, you're up against the hard line that separates what is written (documented and knowable) and what is thought (unknowable). And, as knowing what someone is thinking is an impossibility, your implication that you knew or know what I'm thinking is an implied falsehood. You just can't keep yourself from lying, can you? XD

Sooo...funny thing...you lied again trying to put yourself in the right by claiming "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION. It's not just "anything you stick in bodies for a fix".

vaccine
[vakˈsēn]
NOUN
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

There's the definition...oh, and hey, look at that....doesn't say a single thing about "REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens," Liar CR01. XD

Bait and switch, you liar? Did you notice the CDC - convieniently, being as deceitful as you - recently revised the "definition" to fit the new false dogma?

ANY COMPETENT MD knows what the original definition - and history - was.

It doesn't just magically change in fall of 2021 to suit the frauds when they try to cover their @$$es.

You lose again.

"I didn't claim causality, I just implied it was useful in identifying your fallacies. Which makes the disjointedness YOUR failure to understand, not mind. [weasel, setting self up]

This is happening a lot.

And I don't need to keep repeating them back to you, since all you do is dodge them every time [can't]

And my Latin DOES appear better, since I grasp that ad auctoritatem requires an accusative, not an ablative. So - AGAIN - rather than exposing myself in a lie, I expose you in yours instead." [apparently doesn't realize probe]

Yes..."appears". Good job at creating an image!!! You proved you're not lying about having *at least some* knowledge of Latin -no more, no less; good job!!! Tell me, what lie did I utter? Copy and paste it. You're right up on it, so your "it's too much work" excuse-whining won't fly; let's see this "lie" you claim I uttered. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

"And the technicalities again keep you from grasping the core point underlying your dismissal of anything other than the orthodoxy-validating. [conveniently condemning orthodox sources]

That's called circularity, and even that now seems beyond you." [claiming circularity after pointing at own memes as "proof"]

Circularity is pointing to your own bullshit memes as "proof" to back a lie you uttered. Hmmm...who was it did that? Oh, that's right - that was you. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

"And my quote on Jenner validates my point and disproves yours following. WHOOOSH again."

Nope, you said "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION." -which means that injection with live cowpox virus can't confer immunity to smallpox...but wait...it does. Oh, that's another lie you got caught in. Your quote on Jenner proves nothing in your favor. You lied, you got caught. But, by all means, repost your excerpt on Jenner; I'll be happy to frog-walk you through how it proves nothing in your favor. XD

Proved it separately with a straight quote from the WHO.

Honestly, debating ignorance like yours is like debating a flat earther. It's like you're terrified of the implications of what being wrong might be.

Yes or no, delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01: does injection of live cowpox immunize one against smallpox?

Of course, we both know the answer is "yes" and we both know you'll try to weasel your way out of answering "yes" because you can't without admitting/confirming you lied. XD

I never lied about that - which proves you just DID, AND voided your own basis for calling anyone else a liar ever again.

I stated - and clarified for you again later - that that was the centuries-ago technique, because they didn't have radiation tech. It's MODERN VAX TECH that DOES debilitate or kill pathogens first. As I gave you examples for.

You lose again, you shameless convicted liar.

And subintelligent sh*theads like you don't even grasp that your junk argument is not even RELEVANT, since they don't inject undebilitated pathogens as a vaccine today, they substitute genetic programming strings instead.

Although providing an isolate to do it is still an unmet challenge, the CDC even ADMITTED they devised the vax based on MODELS, not an actual isolate.

(And by the way, we're now learning in DOES in fact include actual DNA, not just mRNA.)

So why don't you man up and tell me which of those ten official COVID lies that I gave you you still stand behind?

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"Explained to your dense @$$ a dozen times that's the historical medical orthodoxythat normal MDs already understood - before the ass-covering redefinitions implemented for Big Pharma to cover up their fraud." [obvious scramble; hypocritical fall-back on orthodoxy-validation]

A vaccine confers immunity; that's reality and all your scrambling to put yourself in the right will not change that.

Remember when you said "And the technicalities again keep you from grasping the core point underlying your dismissal of anything other than the orthodoxy-validating." Funny how first you were anti-orthodoxy-validation and now you're pro-othodoxy-validation. Nice hypocrisy, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. Of course, you run in so many directions trying escape the fact that you lied, it's only natural that you'd start contraveneing your own evidenced values sooner or later. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

"https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination" [still hasn't figured out undercutting own argument]

Oh, if only the WHO was the dictionary and if only there was anything at that location that proved you aren't a liar. Oh, wait, that's right, you probably read what was there and your delusions got in the way...you know, like they did when you thought an suggestion from the Tokyo Medical Association was the same thing as a government policy change issued by the JMOH . LOLOLOLOL!!! You got nothing. What's your next bullshit gambit?

"They make me better informed than you (and I was probably familiar with CRISPR befor you). The snippet in question however is suspect and taken from a PRC source without as I recall independent validation."

Thank you for confirming that you've no real proof. Funny how that keeps turning out to be the case for all of your arguments. Oh...that reminds me; when a person says something is "this" or "that" with no proof, that makes them a liar. XD

"And you should have seen the people I debated here who denied even the non-isolate truth."

So your response is essentially "you should have seen all the people I lied to before you"? Really? So where's your proof that the vaccine isn't made from an isolate? Let's see it. XD

They acted for pages and pages and pages exactly like you. Because like you, they believe the lies fed them by "official" sources that can't even not contradict themselves constantly." [more lies about vaccine]

Uh-huh....sure they did, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. Funny how you condemn official sources but then point to opinion-piece after opinion-piece trying to validate your lies. Of course, funnier still is how you keep trying to argue with the dictionary. XD

"Since I never admitted any such thing."

That's fair and, not being a liar, I readily admit to having used the wrong term; what I should have said is "Remember when you PROVED you lied about the mRNA COVID vaccine not being a vaccine? Am I going to have to post a picture of the place you FURNISHED THAT PROOF?."

My mistake.

Oh...see that, Liar CR01? That's what people who aren't liars do when they mess up: rather than doubling down and lying in effort to put themselves in the right, honest people own their errors and correct themselves.

In any case, such action has now been rendered unnecessary as you've, once again, done all the work for me by copying and pasting a Wikipedia quote which proves you're a liar and completely dismantles your own argument. To bad you didn't think about the fact that Jenner used live cowpox virus to carry out his vaccinations. LOL!!!!

I'm beginning to suspect there's no limit to the number of times you'll willfully humiliate yourself in your mad scramble to prove yourself right and, unvaryingly, author your own defeat. But, do keep trying -watching you stumble around punching yourself in the face is funny as all get-out!! XD

Actually, liar XiaoJia, I've done it a few times myself. Which convicts you in yet another lie.

And since I never lied about it, I told the truth, you're convicted in your second lie.

Except you're too stupid to realize that if you really DID have a shred of integrity, what you'd admit is that every instance you accuse others of lying, their crime is in simply disagreeing with your views and interpretations. Which convicts you for lie number three.

The Jenner point is just silliness, because it means you misunderstood even worse. Not only did it prefigure the weakened version use later, it's even MORE removed from injecting people with genetic programming code to artificially turn THEM into the pathogen generator as intermediate steps.

Enjoy delusionally giggling to yourself.

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"I already explained de facto vs de jure - which of course went whoosh over you yet again - and even just gave you an example today of the same thing from Seattle.

Probably lost on you, but why not anyway."

And I explained to you that lack of prosecution doesn't make a misdemeanor not a crime. For someone who rattles on with complaints about other people not being not being able to grasp simple concepts, you sure are failing to grasp that simple concept. Oh, wait...that's right, you can't acknowledge that a misdemeanor is a crime regardless of prosecution or lack thereof because that would be admitting that you lied and that you got caught. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

I'm loving how you keep posting opinion pieces as "proof"!!! But, of course, that follows considering the way you tried to claim that a recommendation from the Tokyo Medical Association is a government policy change. XD

Since you mostly don't bother looking, you won't notice they're mostly reportings of MDs that you'll never hear about on fascist CNN or PBS.

Oh, look, you were full of crap about the useless "dewormer" too. What a good puppet of the trillion-dollar Big Pharma boys you are:

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-09-08-science-paper-ivermectin-blocks-viral-replication-covid.html

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"How about every time you slandered me as a liar for restating simple medical orthodoxy that normal MDs already understood - before the ass-covering redefinitions implemented for Big Pharma to cover up their fraud." [more othodoxy-validation hypocrisy & trying to squirm out of previous lies]

https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination [pointing to WHO definiton --apparently thinks WHO trumps dictionary; let slide; moron like this will undoubtedly crap out a strategic gem]

What does a vaccine do? Confers immunity. What does the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine do? Confers immunity to COVID-19. Ergo, it's a vaccine. Of course, it doesn't meet the traditional valuation because it uses a completely new mechanic to produce the same result as a traditional vaccine. But, that's not what's at issue here; you said it isn't a vaccine and that's a lie. Nothing will change that. You also said that a vaccine requires debilitated or killed pathogens by definition" which is also a lie. Nothing will change that either. It's done, you did it and slander is only slander if the statement claimed as slander isn't true. Liars lie. You lied -ergo, you're a liar. It's that simple. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Proved it separately with a straight quote from the WHO.

Honestly, debating ignorance like yours is like debating a flat earther. It's like you're terrified of the implications of what being wrong might be." [still pointing to WHO, hasn't figured out WHO undercuts own argument]

Quite the contrary, I would love to be wrong; if I'm wrong, it means you're not a pathological liar/full-on idiot --the world has more than enough of those already. But, unfortunately for you, you said that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine isn't a vaccine and that is a lie. You also said that a vaccine requires debilitated or killed pathogens by definition and that is a lie, If it's a substance (note that word "substance") which confers immunity, it's a vaccine. It's that simple. You lied, you got caught and all your pointing to the WHO won't change that. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

"Oh, look, you were full of crap about the useless "dewormer" too."

Sorry, but at no point did I state that horse de-wormer didn't block in-vitro replication of COVID-19 --that's a product of your own fevered imagination, delusional Liar CR01. But by all means, feel free to copy and paste the comment uttered by me which your delusional state led you to believe that I had. XD

Delusional liar XiaoJia, you've already proven you're not worthy wasting time going through your millions of OCD posts to expose your latest lie among so many others - when all you would do is dance around the disproof anyway.

And we both know you simply parroted the MSM's bullshit fed them by Big Pharma about it being nothing but an unsafe horse dewormer, a word you took special pleasure in. See if you cared about real science, that would never have been an issue, and you'd never have repeated the scorn propaganda.

And now they know they can no long suppress the truth of its effectiveness, even when mindless parrot-bots like you spout their propaganda for them, they try and reformulate it as a variant compound they can try to sub for it at $35 a pill instead of less than $1.

You really are Big Pharma's total slavish bitch. Besides all your own lies and delusion and OCD issues, I mean.

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"I used the modern definition from biology."

Okay, cite your source, then. Of course, we both know you won't because you can't because you're lying. But hey, I'm open to being surprised; let's see what you got. XD

By a curious coincidence I just happened to stumble across a doctor, who in the course of making the same point on several criteria, happens to name THE EXACT SAME POINT YOU ARE TOO DENSE TO GRASP. IN FACT, SHE CITES THE WHO'S OWN DEFINITION ITSELF.

From a post in reply to your idiocy on a different subthread. Try reading carefully:
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I've only rebutted that quibbling sophistry twice now. I guess you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? ::::-/

Here, I just found a doc - somebody much more competent than you - who only restates my point, in these two excerpted paragraphs:

The main reasons for the public to object to mandatory (coercive) policy include:1. This is a medical intervention that has been incorrectly labelled and promoted to the public as a ‘vaccine’. The World Health Organisation (WHO) states that a vaccine protects people before they come into contact with the disease, and it prevents the transmission of the disease in the community. The Australian government regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administrator (TGA), states that this medical intervention will not prevent you getting the disease, nor will it prevent transmission of the disease in the community.

Further, the WHO definition states “……because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs, viruses and bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications.” This medical intervention does not contain any element of the natural coronavirus 2019 that is stated to cause COVID disease. Therefore, under the WHO’s own definition this medical intervention does not fulfil the criteria of a ‘vaccine’ and it is being falsely promoted to the public to imply that the drug has beneficial properties and rare side-effects that have not been proven in any short or long-term clinical trials in humans.

You should read the rest, though you're probably too intellectually lazy, at

https://principia-scientific.com/this-covid-jab-is-being-falsely-promoted-as-a-vaccine/

"Unless he did.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-29-covid-vaccines-contain-dna-not-just-rna.html

And I guess that typo must just completely invalidate anything he said about DNA content, too" [imbecile proves didn't follow up on questionable post]

No, a typographical "error" doesn't necessarily invalidate a comment; what invalidates a comment is lack of substantiative backing. So where's the direct quote? It's definitely not at the link; there's nothing there but an assertion from another of your web-frauds that someone said something -AKA hearsay. It doesn't seem to be anywhere on the internet either... hmmm... that's odd... it's almost like Prof. J Gershoni of Tel Aviv Uni. didn't say that at all. So where's the quote, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01? You've seen it with your own eyes, not just gullibly swallowed a serving of bullshit from a web-fraud, right?

I'll conceed that, in this instance, you're (possibly) not lying; you're just ignorant, gullible and willing prey for web-frauds...as stipulated as option 3.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin/ [another bullshit web-fraud site]

"No, the crux is the ESPECIALLY part, not the secondary cases." [proving he's an ego-driven jackass, delusional: no mention of "secondary cases" in definition of "pathogen"]

Really? So the crux of the definition of the word "pathogen" according to proven-delusional you is the word "especially" and not the the phrase "capable of causing disease", huh? Weird how the core of the definition, the very thing that makes a pathogen a pathogen (according to you) is the word "especially" and not capability to cause disease. Oh, wait....that's right...acknowledging that the "capable of causing disease" part is the real crux would prove you're a butthurt liar, wouldn't it? LOLOLOLOL!!!

"Dishonestly mix apples with oranges much?

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-09-08-science-paper-ivermectin-blocks-viral-replication-covid.html" [link to irrelevant bullshit apparently driven by delusions, clearly didn't read disclaimer again]

I'm not sure how you got it into your delusions that I said yea or *neigh* on horse de-wormer's use in treating COVID, ("especially" after I acknowledged that it had shown some potential during in-vitro testing) but, clearly, you've seen something that wasn't there again....you know...like when you delusionally concluded that a suggestion from the Tokyo Medical Association was the same as a national-level COVID policy change issued by the JMOH --which, incidentally, is the one of three topics concerning horse de-wormer that I've commented on -1. specifically the fact that the JMOH did not suspend its vaccination program in favor of horse de-wormer as you repeatedly, delusionally insisted, pointing to articles that you'd presumably read as "proof " -although the articles said no such thing- and continued insisting such even after it had been pointed out to you that the JMOH's own website made no mention (still doesn't) of any such policy change. And 2. I pointed out that your all-caps scream-lie that horse de-wormer was approved for use in humans before animals was exactly that -a lie. Nice lie, liar. And 3. acknowledgment of in-vitro efficacy.
And, of course, you didn't spot the part of the disclaimer at "NEWSTARGET"s site where it says "The information on this site is provided for educational and entertainment purposes only." Weird how they needed to include the "entertainment purposes" clause...especially considering that it leaves them free to tell whatever lie they wish to gullible people without fear of legal repercussions. Oops, my bad; I keep forgetting that you don't read disclaimers....you know, like you proved with the VAERS system.
LOLOLOLOL!!!!

"Dr Gina Gold in Canada. https://www.cracknewz.com/2021/10/molecular-biologist-speaks-at-city.html" [no validated credentials, woman seems visibly phychologically unstable]

LOLOLOLOL!!! No data, just empty, rambling allegations and no proof that she's a molecular biologist beyond her say so. And you think that's proof? Go***mn, you're gullible. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

"Pseudovax proven separately with direct citation from WHO website. Settles who the delusional liar is again." [points to WHO vaccine definition, apparently too stupid to realize undercuts own argument -be kind: give chance to figure out]

The WHO is neither the dictionary nor the governing authority on the definition of "vaccine"; nice indirect arguing with the dictionary, there, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. XD

"And it's not an isolate if it's not the whole genome. Nice twist.

I see you're reduced to incoherent giggling again."

After that doozy of a bullshit, almost.

i·so·late (ī'sō-lāt),
1. To separate, to set apart from others; that which is so treated.

You know...that thing that happens when a portion of a genome is snipped out from the rest of the code. Oh,wait.... that's right...I keep forgetting you live in a delusional world where words don't mean what they're defined as meaning because, if they do, that makes you a liar....you know...words like "misdemeanor". XD

"I never lied about that"

Wait, what? I thought you said you aren't a liar (never said you did but I understand how your delusional state might lead you to believe that to be the case). What you did lie about: "But intentionally infecting someone with aids is no longer even a crime" --a misdemeanor is still a crime no matter how many times you lie by claiming it isn't, "The Jenner point is just silliness" of course, acknowledging that injecting someone with live cowpox virus is a form of vaccination undercuts your lie that "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION.", "Ivermectin was approved for use in humans first" (yeah, you all-caps screamed that lie, liar). Someone who isn't a liar wouldn't need to add "about that" to "I never lied". In any case, you just did exactly as I predicted and didn't answer "yes". Thank you for unintentionally confirming you're a liar, by the way. But it doesn't stop there, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01...

"I stated - and clarified for you again later - that that was the centuries-ago technique, because they didn't have radiation tech."

LOL!!! So a vaccine doesn't require debilitated or killed pathogens by definition, then. Thank you for confirming that you lied when you said that "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION." XD

"And subintelligent sh*theads like you don't even grasp that your junk argument is not even RELEVANT, since they don't inject undebilitated pathogens as a vaccine today, they substitute genetic programming strings instead."

....said proven delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01 as, in his desperate scramble to put himself in the right, he contradicted his own claim that the mRNA COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine.

"Although providing an isolate to do it is still an unmet challenge, the CDC even ADMITTED they devised the vax based on MODELS, not an actual isolate."

Oh, but wait....you've already confirmed that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine is, in fact, an isolate sourced from the virus. Another problem is that the vaccine wasn't devised by the CDC; sure, they did some groundwork but the vaccine itself was devised by pharmaceutical companies. XD

"(And by the way, we're now learning in DOES in fact include actual DNA, not just mRNA.)"

Oh this oughtta be good; what COVID-19 misinformation-spreading web-fraud is your "source" this time? XD

Proven delusional hypocrite liar XiaoJia, your lies rebutted:

* I already explained the legal degrees of decriminalization with even a case example. All went whoosh over your head.
* Live cowpox virus doesn't undercut my point, it PROVES it: true vaccines employ pathogens (already explained they didn't have radiation technology two centuries ago) instead of experimental genetic programming injections. All went WHOOSH over your head again.
* Ivermectin: dual-use drugs don't depend on chronology, irrespective of which was first: the media tried to dismiss a TRUE effective vax alternative, YOU bought the horse paste propaganda irrespective, which COMPLETELY LEGALLY UNDERCUTS the basis for the mRNA emergency authorization. For proof, look at Pfizer desperately trying to reinvent it as their own "new" variant. On that one, looks like you can win the technicality battle and desperately lose the war. Again.
* And by the way, I just watched a molecular biologist call absolute bullshit on the claim this is an actual vaccine. And she invoked - as will any competent non-lying MD - the exact basis I did too.
* The mRNA pseudovax is NOT based on an actual isolate, and you're lying to claim I said otherwise.
* CDC doesn't NEED to develop the vax directly in order to admit it was all based on a computer model. Your lie otherwise.
* The DNA admission was made by Jonathan Gershom of Tel Aviv University. The vax apologists are already scrambling - not to deny it, but to defend it as technique. You can find that one easily for yourself. Proving your slander as "misinformation" and "fraud" - again - makes the liar you instead.

"Hypocrite-Liar XiaoJia, I don't need to. I'm just calling out your cowardice now, so you can't claim in future you never fell for them.

And claiming people "want most" to lie just exposes the babbling puddle you've been reduced to. [conjecture, attempt to create false narrative]

Again."

No "claim" necessary; you've already proven that about yourself. LOLOLOLOL!!!

"Liar/hypocrite/mentally unbalanced XiaoJia exposed and deflated again:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pathogen
Noun pathogen (plural pathogens)
(pathology, immunology) Any organism or substance, especially a microorganism, "capable of causing disease", such as bacteria, viruses, protozoa or fungi. Microorganisms are not considered to be pathogenic until they have reached a population size that is large enough to cause disease.

Note that word "substance" and that word "especially." Then don't waste your time calling everyone else liars again."

Yes, those two words are in the definition but they're not the crux of the definition. The crux of the definition is the part where it says "capable of causing disease" So what disease does the spike protein cause? Bear in mind that "since no long term studies have been done - as competent MD's have pointed out - you have zero grounds" for whatever bullshit you're about allege. XD

No, the crux is the ESPECIALLY part, not the secondary cases.

And the maladies caused by the spike proteins have included myocarditis, heart attacks, strokes, miscarriages, brain hemorrhages, reproductive issues,

Here, hear it out of a medical professional himself. And even he's probably understating it:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin/

"It's not covid that's causing strokes, hemorrhages, myocarditis, and miscarriages, dimwit, it's the SPIKE PROTEIN ITSELF."

"Since no long term studies have been done - as competent MD's have pointed out - you have zero grounds for your claim." Those are your words. And, having made it clear that you're aware no long-term studies have been done and you've no proof that "It's not covid that's causing strokes, hemorrhages, myocarditis, and miscarriages, dimwit, it's the SPIKE PROTEIN ITSELF.", that makes you a liar...or hopelessly enthralled to your delusions. XD

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin/

"List of 10" huh? Talk about the most obvious deflection ever... You should have researched all 10 of them before you decided they were an escape hatch.

The most obvious deflection is your transparent refusal, when asked, to say which ones you believe.

Classic pot/kettle by you.

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"And since I never lied about it, I told the truth, you're convicted in your second lie."

That you have to differentiate by specifying "about it" shows that you've lied about other things. Nice unwitting admission that you've lied. Oh...hey...that makes you a liar, doesn't it? XD

"Except you're too stupid to realize that if you really DID have a shred of integrity, what you'd admit is that every instance you accuse others of lying, their crime is in simply disagreeing with your views and interpretations. Which convicts you for lie number three."

Aww...poor, proven-delusional, Hypocrite-Liar CR01....you think that people argue with me and my "views and interpretations"? Sorry, but just like when you delusionally claimed a suggestion from the Tokyo Medical Association was a policy change by the Japanese government (still a giant NOPE, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01), people aren't arguing with with me, they're arguing with reality (sorry, I don't make reality, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01, I just live in it 24/7/365). And one thing that's certain about people who argue with reality is that they're delusional...you know...like you did with Japan's COVID-19 policy. LOLOLOLOL!!!

"The Jenner point is just silliness, because it means you misunderstood even worse. Not only did it prefigure the weakened version use later, it's even MORE removed from injecting people with genetic programming code to artificially turn THEM into the pathogen generator as intermediate steps."

Funny how "the Jenner point" wasn't silliness when you thought it proved you right but then became silliness once it was explained to you that it proved you wrong. Weird how someone you keep decrying as stupid is the very person who had to explain that the "Jenner point" proved you wrong. If I'm stupid and it ws necessary for me to explain something to you, where does that leave you? LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Oh, and the spike protein isn't a pathogen; the whole coronavirus is a pathogen. Someone as smart as you apparently believe yourself to be would know that. XD

Liar/hypocrite/mentally unbalanced XiaoJia exposed and deflated again:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pathogen
Noun pathogen (plural pathogens)
(pathology, immunology) Any organism or substance, especially a microorganism, capable of causing disease, such as bacteria, viruses, protozoa or fungi. Microorganisms are not considered to be pathogenic until they have reached a population size that is large enough to cause disease.

Note that word "substance" and that word "especially." Then don't waste your time calling everyone else liars again.

It's not covid that's causing strokes, hemorrhages, myocarditis, and miscarriages, dimwit, it's the SPIKE PROTEIN ITSELF.

And my quote on Jenner validates my point and disproves yours following. WHOOOSH again.

And yes, wiktionary just validated my intelligence and integrity and invalidated yours.

Seriously. If you're that stupid and that insistent a perpetuator of falsity, stop bothering pretending you have the right to crusade against everyone else.

Like the - on top of liar - OCD wacko you are.

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"Seriously. If you're that stupid and that insistent a perpetuator of falsity, stop bothering pretending you have the right to crusade against everyone else."

...said the guy who needed me to explain extremely basic concepts to him. XD

What have I said that's false, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. Copy and paste the things I've said that are false; shouldn't be hard to do. I mean, if you've the mind like a steel trap you've tried to portray yourself as possessing, you should be able to remember exactly where and when I said them. Show everyone the places I posted "falsity". Oh, wait...that's right, that's just you trying to make yourself feel better about getting caught lying, isn't it? XD.

How about every time you slandered me as a liar for restating simple medical orthodoxy that normal MDs already understood - before the ass-covering redefinitions implemented for Big Pharma to cover up their fraud.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination

"Delusional liar XiaoJia, you've already proven you're not worthy wasting time going through your millions of OCD posts to expose your latest lie among so many others - when all you would do is dance around the disproof anyway."

Excuses, excuses, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. Of course, we both know you'll never post any proof to back your assertions because you can't and all your claims are just lies to cover other lies to cover other lies to cover other lies. XD

How about every time you slandered me as a liar for restating simple medical orthodoxy that normal MDs already understood - before the ass-covering redefinitions implemented for Big Pharma to cover up their fraud.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination

"Delusional liar XiaoJia, you just substituted and organizational ad hominem for the individual variety. Especially when all they did was cite an existing paper.

Non-response and self-evident logical fail.

You really are Big Pharma's bitch. Besides all your own lies and delusion and OCD issues, I mean."

...said proven and self-documented delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01, conspiracy and pseudo-science peddler Principia Scientific's bitch.

Sorry, proven delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01, but Principia Scientific is a known purveyor of pseudo-science and conspiracy theories and the ad hominem (which, if you understood Latin, you'd know doesn't even apply when talking about an organization/website) defense only works when the levied charge isn't accurate. But a smart guy like you knows that, don't you proven Liar CR01? XD

Proven liar XiaoJia, since my Latin is probably better than yours, I call out your naked non sequiturs, of which you committed several.

I explained the concept of analogy between attacking identity (of individuals or organizations is arbitrary) instead of issues (ad rem). Once again it went WHOOOOSH over your head.

You don't need to waste any more time on the concept of fallacies any more.

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"* I already explained the legal degrees of decriminalization with even a case example. All went whoosh over your head."

"Degrees of decriminalization" is irrelevant; you said "intentionally infecting someone with AIDS [ignorantly mistaken for reality -i.e. infection with HIV] is no longer even a crime". Lack of enforcement doesn't make something not a crime; a misdemeanor is a crime and will be a crime no matter how long you spend lying to yourself and others with palliatives like "degrees of decriminalization". You lied, you got caught. XD

I already explained de facto vs de jure - which of course went whoosh over you yet again - and even just gave you an example today of the same thing from Seattle.

Probably lost on you, but why not anyway.

"* Live cowpox virus doesn't undercut my point, it PROVES it: true vaccines employ pathogens (already explained they didn't have radiation technology two centuries ago) instead of experimental genetic programming injections. All went WHOOSH over your head again."

Your "point" is irrelevant. You said "a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION." That's a lie. Injection of live, non-debilitated cowpox virus vaccinates one against smallpox, thus proving you a liar. You lied, you got caught. XD

Explained to your dense @$$ a dozen times that's the historical medical orthodoxythat normal MDs already understood - before the ass-covering redefinitions implemented for Big Pharma to cover up their fraud.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201018040725/https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/vaccines-and-immunization-what-is-vaccination

"* Ivermectin: dual-use drugs don't depend on chronology, irrespective of which was first: the media tried to dismiss a TRUE effective vax alternative, YOU bought the horse paste propaganda irrespective, which COMPLETELY LEGALLY UNDERCUTS the basis for the mRNA emergency authorization. For proof, look at Pfizer desperately trying to reinvent it as their own "new" variant. On that one, looks like you can win the technicality battle and desperately lose the war. Again."

"Since no long term studies have been done - as competent MD's have pointed out - you have zero grounds for your claim." Remember saying that, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01? So where are your long-term studies? Oh, wait, that's right -you don't have any because you're spouting a new lie and you got caught/taken down by your own words. You lied, you got caught. XD

Dishonestly mix apples with oranges much?

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-09-08-science-paper-ivermectin-blocks-viral-replication-covid.html

"* CDC doesn't NEED to develop the vax directly in order to admit it was all based on a computer model.
Although providing an isolate to do it is still an unmet challenge, the CDC even ADMITTED they devised the vax based on MODELS, not an actual isolate."

Those two sentences are the first 100% true things you've typed in all our interactions!!! GOOD JOB!!!! You finally said something that isn't based on or flat-out conjectural bullshit/lies!!! Of course, that's only a half-win for you in that you said something accurate for once. Unfortunately, it doesn't really have any relevant impact on this discussion; the CDC doesn't need to develop the vaccine directly in order to lay the *groundwork* with computer models. See, that's the thing about computer modelling -it allows researchers to do initial forays into vaccine creation without clogging up valuable lab-space; if a researcher has a map of a virus' genome and it's known which portions code for production of which parts of the virus, there's no need to work with material samples. Someone as smart as you've tried (and proved otherwise) to portray yourself being would know that.

Of course, then the CDC handed their data off to private companies who did, in fact, create their vaccines from an isolate snipped from the COVID-19 genome using CRISPR -something you'd know if you weren't getting your "news" from web-frauds. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

They make me better informed than you (and I was probably familiar with CRISPR befor you). The snippet in question however is suspect and taken from a PRC source without as I recall independent validation.

And you should have seen the people I debated here who denied even the non-isolate truth.

They acted for pages and pages and pages exactly like you. Because like you, they believe the lies fed them by "official" sources that can't even not contradict themselves constantly.

"* The DNA admission was made by Jonathan Gershom of Tel Aviv University. The vax apologists are already scrambling - not to deny it, but to defend it as technique. You can find that one easily for yourself. Proving your slander as "misinformation" and "fraud" - again - makes the liar you instead."

I don't know who you're talking about but I do know there's no such person as Prof. J. Gershom at Tel Aviv Uni. On the other hand, there IS a Prof. J. Gershoni at Tel Aviv Uni....who, unsurprisingly, has said no such thing. Of course, this all circles back to your ignorance/gullibility/delusionality; either you didn't understand what you were reading, saw something that wasn't there or you swallowed a lie from one of your bullshit sources whole and did no research. And, considering that you had the wrong name -which you would have discovered immediately had you done the research- it's probably the third option. XD

Unless he did.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-29-covid-vaccines-contain-dna-not-just-rna.html

And I guess that typo must just completely invalidate anything he said about DNA content, too ::::-/

"The most obvious deflection is your transparent refusal, when asked, to say which ones you believe.

Classic pot/kettle by you."

Really? We're back to the "list of 10" again? Have you stopped to question why my immediate response was to ask whether you'd actually looked into the 10 things you claim are lies? I'll wager you didn't. Did you stop to question why my follow-up response at the second instance was to classify your pushing them as lies as bullshit? Get back to me when you can prove they're lies. Let's have your proof that they're lies with source citiations. Hey now...that's a fresh opportunity for you to cite bullshit sources and lie some more, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. Come on, now....you've proven that's what you want most. XD

Hypocrite-Liar XiaoJia, I don't need to. I'm just calling out your cowardice now, so you can't claim in future you never fell for them.

And claiming people "want most" to lie just exposes the babbling puddle you've been reduced to.

Again.

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"You would have made a good Red Guard, you really did drink the kool-aid. How will you take it when the truth starts to finally seriously start coming out?"

Thank you for admitting you don't have a single shred of hard data, only the whisperings of the voices in your head and the bloggery of of web-frauds who tell you what you want to hear. XD

I prove right and you prove wrong. Again.

https://principia-scientific.com/this-covid-jab-is-being-falsely-promoted-as-a-vaccine/

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"Proven liar XiaoJia, since my Latin is probably better than yours, I call out your naked non sequiturs, of which you committed several."

Wow...that first sentence is both its own non-sequitur and a clean demonstration of your mind's disjointedness. Having knowledge of Latin is unnecessary to recognize a non-sequitur....and yet you've somehow managed to get it into your delusions that the one is contingent on the other. That's sad....and hilarious!!!! Do copy and paste my alleged "non-sequiturs". Let's see them. XD

"I explained the concept of analogy between attacking identity (of individuals or organizations is arbitrary) instead of issues (ad rem). Once again it went WHOOOOSH over your head."

Funny thing that you didn't use "ad ordinationem" or "ad auctoritate" considering that you've now laid claim to at least some expertise in Latin. It's looking very much like you just exposed yourself in another lie. XD

And nice try, but a source's reputation for informational accuracy is both relevant and paramount where that source is cited as proof. You cited a bullshit source, I relevantly outed it as a known purveyor of bullshit. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

"You don't need to waste any more time on the concept of fallacies any more."

Apparently, I do considering how deeply mired in fallacies you've proven to be and how little ability you've demonstrated in the field of recognizing them. XD

I didn't claim causality, I just implied it was useful in identifying your fallacies. Which makes the disjointedness YOUR failure to understand, not mind.

This is happening a lot.

And I don't need to keep repeating them back to you, since all you do is dodge them every time.

And my Latin DOES appear better, since I grasp that ad auctoritatem requires an accusative, not an ablative. So - AGAIN - rather than exposing myself in a lie, I expose you in yours instead.

And the technicalities again keep you from grasping the core point underlying your dismissal of anything other than the orthodoxy-validating.

That's called circularity, and even that now seems beyond you.

Pot/kettle yet again.

"And yes, wiktionary just validated my intelligence and integrity and invalidated yours."

Nope, wiktionary just confirmed that you're able to copy and paste so at best, it proved you're at least as competent as a 5-year-old. As far as validating your intelligence, well, your wiktionary gambit was wrecked by yourself and wiktionary. XD

Your denial is entertaining. But the WHO site backs up the historic definition too. You lose again.

We live in a technological age, Liar CR01; surely you've the means to post an image of a pre-2021 dictionary page proving you're not lying. Let's see it. XD

Go back to earlier wikipedia, and you get this:

"A vaccine is an antigenic preparation used to produce active immunity to a disease, in order to prevent or ameliorate the effects of infection by any natural or "wild" strain of the organism. The term derives from Edward Jenner's use of cowpox ("vacca" means cow in Latin), which, when administered to humans, provided them protection against smallpox, which Pasteur and others perpetuated. The process of distributing and administrating vaccines is referred to as vaccination."

But I already explained to you - and you failed to grasp - that MDs who've been around knew this - and know that the CDC shifted the goalposts.

"* And by the way, I just watched a molecular biologist call absolute bullshit on the claim this is an actual vaccine. And she invoked - as will any competent non-lying MD - the exact basis I did too."

Really? And where did you see this calling-of-bullshit? Is this more opinion-piece "proof"? Cite your source. Who's the molecular biologist?

"* The mRNA pseudovax is NOT based on an actual isolate, and you're lying to claim I said otherwise."

I never said "you said", I said "you've already confirmed"; those are two quite simple phrases indicating two very different things. Of course this circles back to your delusionality and your seeing what you want to see rather than what's actually in front of you....you know...like you did with the Japanese government's COVID policy after reading an article about the Tokyo Medical Association making a suggestion about horse-dewormer. Oh, and there's no such thing as "pseudo-vaccine"...well....unless you're talking about an App. Nice lie, liar. XD

Vaccines confer immunity and things which aren't vaccines don't- with no in-betweens...that's not a difficult concept to master is it? And yes, the mRNA COVID vaccine is made of an isolate. Maybe in another 75-100 years we'll be technologically advanced enough to build genetic coding from scratch, but, right now, humanity is forced to rely on CAS9. If you kept up with what's going on in the field of genetic research or, at the very least, didn't get your news from bullshit sources, you'd have known know that. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Dr Gina Gold in Canada. https://www.cracknewz.com/2021/10/molecular-biologist-speaks-at-city.html

Pseudovax proven separately with direct citation from WHO website. Settles who the delusional liar is again.

And it's not an isolate if it's not the whole genome. Nice twist.

I see you're reduced to incoherent giggling again.

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"Of course I read it, and I selected it because it makes the point, not undermines it."

Thank you for proving that you don't comprehend the things you read. XD

Sorry, delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01, but citing a source which deals in pseudo-science and conspiracy theories (Principia Scientific) automatically negates your argument. Oops. Although I can see why a delusional person such as yourself would believe their hogwash.
XD

Delusional liar XiaoJia, you just substituted and organizational ad hominem for the individual variety. Especially when all they did was cite an existing paper.

Non-response and self-evident logical fail.

You really are Big Pharma's bitch. Besides all your own lies and delusion and OCD issues, I mean.

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Remember when you admitted you lied about the mRNA COVID vaccine not being a vaccine? Am I going to have to post a picture of the place you made that admission?

Since I never admitted any such thing, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU DO ADMIT NOW THAT YOU ARE THE LIAR.

Which really does make your theatrics silly.

LOL!!! You calling some one stupid...now that's a hoot!!! Too bad you already insisted that "A vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION. It's not just "anything you stick in bodies for a fix", especially considering that Jenner's smallpox vaccine was LIVE, unattenuated, straight-from-nature cowpox virus, Liar CR01. XD

Liar XiaoJia: I used the modern definition from biology. Redefining the term to suit your purposes - just like the CDC just did - makes it you.

I mean...seriously, "Principia Scientific"? Those folks are about as founded in "reality" as you are. XD

More than you, clearly. Argumentum ad hominem applies to institutions as well as people. Fallacy; fail.

Yes Yes, you have punched yourself in the face quite a few times.

LOL!!!

There's nothing in your selection from Wikipedia that proves you aren't lying, Liar CR01. In fact, it proves quite handily that your are a liar in the citation of Jenner's administration (you know...this part: "The term derives from Edward Jenner's use of cowpox ~, which, when administered to humans, provided them protection against smallpox") of cowpox virus as a means of vaccination against smallpox. Seriously, even when you're trying your hardest to put yourself in the right, you just can't help but undercut your own argument, can you?

Ah, but you didn't actually read it, did you? You just copied a snippet you delusionally imagined proved your lies and then pasted the tool of your own defeat here for everyone to see. That's hilarious!!!

What self-defeating gambit would you like to try now? XD

You know, every time you call someone else a liar, it's really yourself you're indicting, liar XiaoJia.

Of course I read it, and I selected it because it makes the point, not undermines it.

You're just too dense to grasp it every time it happens.

As everyone else can see for themselves too.

Nope, every time I call YOU liar, I'm hitting it dead on the nose. XD

Lying slanderer XiaoJia, I'm now convinced the reason you're so obsessed with calling everyone who dares to disagree with you a liar is that your subconscious is starting to realize you've been the participant apologist for a giant scam, and all the "defenses" you've made for its orthodoxy are going to collapse like a house of cards.

Never heard you talk before about one of the biggest lies of all, the PCR test scam, and there's lots more. I bet you've told and defended more than a few of these:

Which of these TEN most popular Covid lies do you still believe?
LIE #1. Covid is still contagious when you’re asymptomatic.
LIE #2. PCR tests tell you whether or not you have or had Covid-19 (or Delta).
LIE #3. Vaccines usually prevent you from catching Covid, or make it a mild case if you do.
LIE #4. Covid-19 vaccines help with immunity against variants, like Delta and Lambda.
LIE #5. A lab can test for Covid-19 and prove in court if you had it (like forensic DNA).
LIE #6. Covid vaccines are safe, even for pregnant women.
LIE #7. Vaccine immunity is stronger than natural immunity.
LIE #8. Without vaccines, you’re at high risk of catching and dying from Covid.
LIE #9. Vaccines provide better immunity for Covid than vitamin D, zinc and Ivermectin.
LIE #10. Masks, social distancing and lockdowns have helped “flatten the curve.”

You would have made a good Red Guard, you really did drink the kool-aid. How will you take it when the truth starts to finally seriously start coming out?

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Aww....look at you trying to argue with the dictionary..... That's priceless!!! XD

Not me, dip, you. Apparently you failed even high school biology, and your best retort is no u.

THAT'S priceless.

Polly want a cracker?

Of course you didn't stick to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That's how you got yourself into this mess in the first place. XD

Always have. You're just too dishonest to recognize it.

You lose again.

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I agree; you always have failed to stick to the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I didn't, you sociopathic slanderer: the liar is you. It used to be homicide. Now you lump it in with, you know, jaywalking, littering.

And I was always right about the definition of vaccine too - which makes the liar YOUR @$$, not mine.

You already admitted you lied when you specified it's still a crime but, for some baffling reason, you just keep on lying. LOL!!!! XD

Already rebutted you on that.

Went straight in one ear and out the other.

Suppose you could go back and reread it, but not holding my breath.

Just like with all those flat earthers I used to talk to. I soon realized it just wasn't going to register.

And, as usual, you've exposed yourself as a liar and now you're doubling down and lying some more. Hilarious!!!! XD

I agree - you didn't stick to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Points to you for being "honest" when you had no other option. XD

Entertaining to watch your childish "no u" self delusions. You know, for a few seconds anyway.

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"Do that before you even bother with your pathetic lies about me next time."

So when you get caught lying, you double down and lie even more? Even when a link to the proof you're lying is right there in black and white for everyone to see? What was that thing you said about lumping oneself in with the orange ass-hat?

Okay....show everyone the lie you claim I uttered. You can do that, can't you? Go on, copy and paste it for everyone to see.

Didn't, asshole, the liar is you. Used to be homicide. Now you lump it in with, you know, jaywalking, littering.

And I was always right about the definition of vaccine too - which makes the liar YOUR lying ass.

Suck it.

Of course you didn't copy and paste the place you claim I lied because you can't because, unlike yourself, I'm not a liar. XD

Already identified one of many, you just chose to ignore it.

A vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION. It's not just "anything you stick in bodies for a fix".

You lose again.

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More lies, huh? Tell me, Liar CR01, what do you know about the smallpox vaccine? I'm guessing little to nothing or you'd know that last assertion is complete bullshit.

Perfect example, inoculation. Fits my definition, fails yours.

You lose.

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"In short, you admit you could give simple answers - and chicken out on committing to anything.

Wonder if on some subconscious level you realize your entire house of cards structure of lies is coming down someday, and you don't want to be forced to admit how many of those lies you fell for?

Lot of dancing around the issue, zero straight answers."

Show me your proof that they're lies; you made the claim, now back it up. Cite your sources, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. XD

Proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar XiaoJia, I don't even need to, because it's not relevant.

I just gave you a list. I only asked you go on record saying if you had the spine to disagree with any of the ten.

Dance and dodge and evade away. Or better, take even less time and pretend you have the courage and say what you think.

Feel free to copy and paste the place where I stated that getting vaccinated makes one immune to COVID-19. Shouldn't be too difficult, right? Unless, of course, you're running on a product of your own fevered imagination....

Feel free to prove I categorically stated you agreed with all of them. Which of course you can't. The title of the selection is a question. Claim rebutted.

But here's a challenge: go ahead and state clearly all the ones you disagree with. For the record. It may be useful to you someday.

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Remember when you claimed traditional vaccines are dead/debilitated virus? Funny how the earliest, most traditional vaccine that ever was was 100% live cowpox virus. LOL!!! XD

I've only rebutted that quibbling sophistry twice now. I guess you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? ::::-/

Here, I just found a doc - somebody much more competent than you - who only restates my point, in these two excerpted paragraphs:

The main reasons for the public to object to mandatory (coercive) policy include:1. This is a medical intervention that has been incorrectly labelled and promoted to the public as a ‘vaccine’. The World Health Organisation (WHO) states that a vaccine protects people before they come into contact with the disease, and it prevents the transmission of the disease in the community. The Australian government regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administrator (TGA), states that this medical intervention will not prevent you getting the disease, nor will it prevent transmission of the disease in the community.

Further, the WHO definition states “……because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs, viruses and bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications.” This medical intervention does not contain any element of the natural coronavirus 2019 that is stated to cause COVID disease. Therefore, under the WHO’s own definition this medical intervention does not fulfil the criteria of a ‘vaccine’ and it is being falsely promoted to the public to imply that the drug has beneficial properties and rare side-effects that have not been proven in any short or long-term clinical trials in humans.

You should read the rest, though you're probably too intellectually lazy, at

https://principia-scientific.com/this-covid-jab-is-being-falsely-promoted-as-a-vaccine/

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"Here, I just found a doc - somebody much more competent than you - who only restates my point, in these two excerpted paragraphs:"

Uh-huh...more "proof" opinion-piece quotations from "Principia Scientific", eh? That's simultaneously pathetic and hilarious!!! XD

"said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking ignoring issues is the same as answering them.

Oh, and you chickened out on identifying which of those official lies you agreed with too."

Oh, wait...are talking about your bullshit "list of ten"? I ignored that because it was obvious bullshit (good job proving you know you're lying, by the way; good lord, you can't help but trip yourself up, can you?). The evidence shows what it shows so whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant; --unlike yourself who argues with the dictionary and lies when it doesn't match up with your delusional world-construct and who cites bullshit "sources" as though they have relevancy.

See, when I read a disclaimer that says "reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. the reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable", because I'm not delusional, I take it at face value because that's the only information available and the site posting it is making it clear that the information they have -at best- may not be accurate and -at worst- may be completely false.

And, because I'm not delusional, if I go looking for information about something on the web, I fact-check the information I find with hard-copy sources because -as you have demonstrated is your modus operandi and unlike you- I'm not so gullible as to think that the internet isn't crawling with people looking to spread falsehoods. You know...people like "Dr. Eddy" and websites like Principia Scientific. XD

In short, you admit you could give simple answers - and chicken out on committing to anything.

Wonder if on some subconscious level you realize your entire house of cards structure of lies is coming down someday, and you don't want to be forced to admit how many of those lies you fell for?

Lot of dancing around the issue, zero straight answers.

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You do understand that "inoculation" and "vaccination" are synonyms, correct?

Better than you apparently.

"Feel free to prove I categorically stated you agreed with all of them. Which of course you can't. The title of the selection is a question. Claim rebutted.

But here's a challenge: go ahead and state clearly all the ones you disagree with. For the record. It may be useful to you someday."

Nice bowl of nebulous word-salad...but that's the whole point, isn't it? It's just lot's of talk with no specific objects and an open-ended, unfulfillable objective. What other bullshit tactics would you like to trot out? XD

Jesus, your delusionality and extreme stupidity prevented you from even recognizing the challenge in there.

You're not even bothering to read these any more, so why should anyone bother with you either?

"Aww, poor liar XiaoJia. Reduced to "no u!!!!!!!!"

....said delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01 just before turning around and reducing himself to "no u!!!!!!!!" XD

said delusional liar XiaoJia pretending that pulling a "no u" on his own demonstrated "no u" is not the peak of irony.

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"Proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar XiaoJia, I don't even need to, because it's not relevant.

I just gave you a list. I only asked you go on record saying if you had the spine to disagree with any of the ten." [round-about ad hominem after condemning same; hypocrisy level: 100%]

And I spoke about reality rather than delusion. Of course the real issue here is whether you can prove they're lies. I'm guessing , based on the fact that you're dodging like crazy after being asked for proof that they're lies, that you can't. So prove me wrong; proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01. You can do that, can't you? (trick question; I've already looked into them and know that there's nothing you can post as "proof" which will stand under scrutiny). See, unlike yourself, I'll fully acknowledge if I'm wrong. Of course, you'll never see that unless you can prove me wrong. XD

"Dance and dodge and evade away. Or better, take even less time and pretend you have the courage and say what you think." [obvious projection]

What I think/believe is a product of my own imagination and, therefore, irrelevant; imagination isn't reality, facts are reality and reality is all that matters. Of course, it stands to reason that you'd you'd place importance on the non-real -what with your demonstrated focus & citation of things fictional- rather than sticking with what is real and proven/provable.. XD

"Jesus, your delusionality and extreme stupidity prevented you from even recognizing the challenge in there.

You're not even bothering to read these any more, so why should anyone bother with you either?"

Quite the contrary -I read your comments and see them for the dodgy, ignorant, imbecilic butthurtery that they are. You want to be rid of me, Liar CR01? That's an easily attainable objective --all you need do is not lie. Hmmm...on second thought, that's probably an impossible-to-obtain objective for you considering that you've demonstrated you lie as easily as most people breathe.

Any forensic analyst could not only puncture that self-delusion, but see that I don't, and that you have several times already. But enjoy your fantasy bubble as long as it lasts, liar XiaoJia.

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"said delusional liar XiaoJia pretending that pulling a "no u" on his own demonstrated "no u" is not the peak of irony."

Awww....poor ignorant, proven-delusional Hypocrite-Liar CR01 doesn't even understand the difference between "irony" and "hypocrisy" or how he just cut himself off at the ankles.... Of course, that follows considering that he thought a suggestion from the Tokyo Medical Association was the same thing a policy change by Japan's government....

But, by all means, explain for everyone what you think "irony" is...in fact, post the definition of "irony" for everyone. LOLOLOLOL!!!! XD

So in your book live cowpox virus is a "debilitated or killed" pathogen, huh? Wow....you really are delusional.

Early practice from centuries ago, dipwit liar, not modern medical practice.

...said delusional Liar CR01 as he lied....again. XD

said delusional liar XiaoJia thinking ignoring issues is the same as answering them.

Oh, and you chickened out on identifying which of those official lies you agreed with too.

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LOL!!! Thank you for proving you lied....again

Thanks for proving you're delusional...again.

Doesn't change the fact that you lied...again, Liar CR01.

Didn't, asshole, the liar is you. Used to be homicide. Now you lump it in with, you know, jaywalking, littering.

And I was always right about the definition of vaccine too - which makes the liar YOUR lying ass.

Suck it.

A misdemeanor is still a crime. You lose. And the mRNA which codes for production of the spike protein is still a product of a virus so the mRNA COVID vaccine is, in fact, a vaccine no matter how many times you lie and say it isn't. Hey... look at that, you lose again. XD

Listen to the desperate lawyer-wannabe grabbing for technicalities.

DeCRIMinalization of marijuana makes it still on the books BUT the cops don't bother. Just like shoplifting in libtard San Francisco: less than a thousand dollars, cops won't even stop you. So Walgreens closed up 17 stores. But oh, it's still technically "a crime".

You lose.

And a vaccine REQUIRES debilitated or killed pathogens BY DEFINITION. It's not just "anything you stick in bodies for a fix".

You lose again.

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Tell me, Liar CR01, can a citizen be arrested and jailed for a misdemeanor?

In most instances the law doesn't bother. And until you actually learn to read and think about rebuttals like you were just handed, you're beneath reply.

And that counts as a "yes". Thank you for confirming that you lied.

I'm beneath reply, huh? Funny how you keep replying. XD