Anyone who supports abortion, supports baby murder

men should wear condoms or get vasectomies.

Women should get their tubes tied or get hysterectomies

same for men.

Same for women

tell your senator you're willing to go to jail if she aborts your baby.

You first

You're the one that wants to stop abortion, not me.

Love your user ID. lol

Abortion, with regards to the law, should be a states rights issue. This is something the people should be able to petition their state legislature for or against.

The Supreme Court is not an elected body. They do not represent the will of the people. Therefore, Row v Wade was an unconstitutional ruling and the Court should have been corrected by the executive and legislative branches for violating the Constitution.

This is not the first time the Court violated the Constitution and it has been common practice for Democrats and leftists to use the Court to force their will on the American people when they can make any progress with their tyranny in the legislative branches.

That was until Obama started writing executive orders to create law. Now the left has all 3 branches doing the work that only one branch is supposed to be doing.

This is how the left has turned us into one of their beloved dictatorships. This is why the hated Trump so viciously. He wasn't supposed to have won. The left didn't fabricate enough false votes to overcome the electoral college. A mistake they were not going to let happen in 2020. Trump got in the way of their "fundamental transformation" into a socialist dictatorship.

States don't have a right to destroy unborn human beings. Nobody does.

I agree, however, the Supreme Court way overstepped their limits with Roe v Wade. Abortion, it anything at all, should be a states rights issue. I am not condoning abortion at all. I'm just speaking to how it should be handled under the Constitution. It should have never been legalized in the 1st place.

Personally I wish we'd pass an amendment banning it outright.

While I agree you would think that we wouldn't need to. It should be obvious to everyone that it is murder.

It should be. The sad reality though is that most of its ardent supporters are willfully blind. I've gone at it with folks plenty on this site alone and without fail it goes one of two ways. They either agree with me that it is wrong but accept it as a "lesser evil" (somehow), or straight up argue the egg/zygote/embryo isn't human and therefore doesn't matter.

It's sad.

So that you would control women's bodies rather than them?

If a fetus was just another part of the woman's I wouldn't care.

So, how about not killing the fetus? How about just disconnecting it from the woman so they can both go their merry ways? It's not a part of the woman's body so she shouldn't have to remain attached to it, right?

Technology is not yet at the point where we can do that in a way that keeps the fetus alive except at late stages of pregnancy, beyond when most abortions occur.

What are you doing to advance that?

Or was this never really about the fetus?

don't let the fetus defeat us :)

Gonna stop you right there. Discussions about opinion on policy can't be twisted into personal insults when life in general prevents someone from advancing that policy. I work as a writer. I'm no scientist or engineer, doubly so when it comes to building advanced medical technology.

As far as the principle goes, the bottom line is that the utter cruelty of totally and permanently ending the existence of someone without their consent is far greater than the utter cruelty of enduring an unwanted pregnancy and the mental trauma, and then giving the child up for adoption. I truly do not want to minimize that. It's just that you don't solve a problem by killing it.

"As far as the principle goes, the bottom line is that the utter cruelty of totally and permanently ending the existence of someone without their consent is far greater than the utter cruelty of enduring an unwanted pregnancy and the mental trauma, and then giving the child up for adoption. I truly do not want to minimize that."

This is a false equivalence, the woman is an independent, autonomous person; the zygote is dependent, partially developed and not autonomous.

Your description of "permanently ending the existence of someone" is a romantic notion. I get where you're coming from, every zygote is unique and the person they would've developed into will never exist again

Every life that already exists outside a womb is unique and valuable, you cannot impose control and suffering on the bodies of strangers for your idealistic notions.

Adoption is not realistic; most children in the care system stay there, the older a child gets the less likely they will find permanent home.

The reality is that the majority of these kids are rejected, repeatedly rehomed and abused in one way or another.

Have you ever done any research into people's experiences of it?

Have you ever done anything to support it?
Do you regularly encourage people to adopt older kids?

To address your last point first; I've long advocated for massively overhauling and improving our foster system. It's a broken, shattered mess.

As far as the rest goes, everyone has the right to life and a future (living freely, pursuit of happiness, etc. Whatever you want to call it, it necessitates being able to control your own destiny). How is permanently taking that away from someone, whose humanity we ignore and strip away purely because they're less developed than us, somehow LESS harmful than supporting a woman through a pregnancy so we can help her through the ordeal AND protect the new life? It's not a romantic notion; it's reality. Nothing but age separates a fertilized egg from an Olympic athlete. Arguing that rights should be ignored because of age is like arguing that rights should be ignored because of someone's mental health status, or race, or sex. It's wrong.

"As far as the rest goes, everyone has the right to life and a future (living freely, pursuit of happiness, etc. Whatever you want to call it, it necessitates being able to control your own destiny). How is permanently taking that away from someone, whose humanity we ignore and strip away..."

You realize you could easily be describing the woman here?

christian sharia?

except george floyd.

You just reinforce my opinion that you're a troll with asinine and utterly unintelligent comments like these.

He's just wasting people's time. Don't feed the troll.

I try to give people plenty of chances, but this fellow is out. Finally muted 'em.

doesn't the right wing feel his killing was justified?

Hey mod, mistakenly flagged this.

Yeah, you're a troll. I'm blocking you. Thanks for saving me time in the future.

good riddance!

Oops "...when they CAN'T make any progress with their tyranny..."

LOLOLOLOL. There is nothing you can say that can not be reversed back to right wingers.

1. ALL Gun laws are blatantly unconstitutional but that has never stopped right wing snowflakes from subjectively supporting gun laws they like and approve of.

The term "law abiding citizen" and "legally owned gun" are a massive insult and joke on it's face.

2. Law Enforecment routinely violates the law and constitution daily all across America and you Freedom hating fake patriots cheer them on.

3. Christians claim prayer "orginized christian prayer" should be put back in school. In direct violation of the constitution. They want to force it via Government.

4. Right wingers love to rant about how they love "freedom and liberty" until it hurts their feelings or personal views and agenda

Then they suddenly want government to impose "their" will onto others.

Right wingers love to pretent they have "rights" you don't you gladly surrender them to law enforcment and they know you will. Hell you actually demand it from others

1. Yes all gun laws are unconstitutional. I am not sure what gun laws you think we approve of. I know there are some that we tried to appease you guys with like background checks. I think buying a gun should be as easy as buying a pack of gum.

What is insulting and a joke about a "law abiding citizen" and "legally owned gun"? I don't see how that is offensive to anyone but criminals (and politicians). "Legally owned guns" are opposed to "illegally owned guns". An illegally owned gun is one that has been stolen.

2. When law enforcement violates the law they should be punished. Those cops who violate people's right are few and far between.

3. Some Christians want prayer back in school. Other's don't care. However, an organized Christian prayer is NOT a violation of the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress cannot establish a state religion and it cannot interfere in how religion practices their religion. "Separation of church and state" is NOT in the Constitution. Nor it is interpreted correctly by the left. Read Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists. Jefferson meant that the wall of separation was a one way separation. He meant that the government is to stay out of religion's way. Jefferson was responsible for established Christian church services in the House of Representatives building for congressmen who could not make it home in time for their own church services. Jefferson also printed up excerpts of the KJV of the New Testament and required all incoming freshmen congressmen to read it. I have a copy of the Jefferson Bible. So whatever you think is a violation of the Constitution is all based on popular opinion and not reality.

BTW I really don't care if they allow prayer back in schools or not. I just don't want schools expelling students just because the brought a Bible to school. And, yes, that actually happened.

4 So are you saying that we should not have "freedom and liberty" just because you think freedom can hurt our feelings? I really don't know where you get that idea in the first place. Typically if a conservative hears someone saying something they don't like they change the channel, turn off the radio or leave the room. Leftists want the person saying "offensive" things imprisoned.

I don't want the government to impose anything on anyone for any reason. With the exception of upholding the law. I also want about 90% of all laws repealed.

So your what your saying is that your an anarchist

No. Like I said above, I am a member of the Constitution Party. I've known anarchists. Real anarchists, not communists using anarchy to destroy the US government for the communists (i.e. Antifa)

We could stop reading after statement #1.

You are litterally so far gone you could not even grasp that we are not "Democrats" or "gun grabbers"

Why would we declare all gun laws unconstitutional if we support gun law???????

Holy imaginary Jesus there simply is not reasoning with Trumplicans.

And yet I am not a Republican and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I only voted for him in 2020 because there wasn't anyone better in either the Libertarian or Constitution parties. Plus I knew Joe Biden was an imbecile not fit for the White House. Not even when he was younger.

So while you accuse me of misjudging you you misjudge me as well. It's a tie.

And who is "we"? Are you royalty?

You said you switched parties from Democrat to Republican to vote Reagan (as if that was a prerequisite).

I've been here since 2016, and despite this site getting overrun by Trumpites, I've not encountered anyone who voted for Trump in 2016. Not. a. single. one.

And it's true! Most are foreigners, and the rest are underage so couldn't vote.

Here let me help you update your profile you are keeping on me.

1. I registered as a Republican when I was 18 and eligible to vote. I was a Republican until about 10 years ago when I declared myself as unaffiliated. About 5 years ago I joined the Constitution party. At no point in my life was I ever a Democrat. My father was a Democrat and in the 50's he changed to Republican.

2. If you have never "encountered" anyone who voted for Trump then you don't get out much. I got criticized by just about everyone I know when I was on Facebook for not voting for Trump in 2016. They ALL voted for him.

Good to see you're finally stitching your stories together instead of tryng to convince others to ignore me when I post it as if they would.

Yeah, EVERYONE on FB voted Trump. Except you.
That'll convince me.

So in all of your meticulous note taking on everyone here you can't just check your profiles that you keep on everyone? I'm sure you'll find that the vast majority of Trump supporters in 2020 also supported him in 2016. Open up your database where you keep all of your profiles and look.

I've been here since 2016.
You've been here how many months?

Hey, is your illustrious paranoia part of you being totally unaffected by meanypants like me?

It's not paranoia. You've been posting misinformation about me over and over and over. It's like you're obsessed with me but I am sure it isn't just me. I'll bet you do the same thing to all the conservatives.

Do you think because you've been here since 2016 that you are entitled to something?

You said hours ago to me you WERE born in Georgia, something you tried pretending you weren't for several months after having said you were.

Ain't my fault if I remember your phony bio better than you.
How can an anonymous memer know your life better than you?

LOLOLOL to you too.
- You are unclear about gun laws. Yes, gun laws are unconstitutional. Yes, we DO support gun laws that end earlier very restrictive laws. What is your point.l? How are those terms a "massive insult and joke on it's face"? And what's face are they a joke on?
-How do they violate the law daily? Just want to know the reasoning behind the that thought. Haha you are hilarious. "Freedom hating fake patriots" ... Accurately describes the Left.
-No, Christians don't want to force their religion via government. Quite the opposite. They simply want to prohibit schools from banning private or public prayer in schools.
-How would freedom and liberty hurt our feelings, personal view, or agenda? We don't"suddenly want to impose our will" on others.
- I'm very confused. How do we "pretend" to have rights? If a law enforcement officer wanted to come and search my house, I would ask him for his warrant. Common sense.

Also in case you missed it, the original meme was about Abortion/murder. Not about gun laws or law enforcement or prayers in schools.

We stopped caring about your replies your a "troll" who only pretends to be a patriot. Run along and cry to the Admin of imgflip.

We have noticed they do the bidding of right wingers here who need to be coddled

Obama issued EO at the lowest number since Grover Cleveland.

Trump churned them out like they were confetti.

Where is Trump on your chart. Here is the thing. When Obama opened the door of legislating by EO he turned us into a dictatorship. No president is ever going to relinquish that kind of power INCLUDING Trump. I disagreed with Obama, Trump and Biden legislating by EO.

Ain't my chart.

Trump far outdid Obama.
But you already knew that. You DID, yes? Just like you see the chart right there and still pretend you're totally unaware.

And Biden far out strips both, as of now.

Good grief, man, all he does is lie. At least give him the chance to tell the truth for just once. I got two pages of that waiting. Why do you think I didn't post it? I'm literally setting him up to simply say the truth for once. He takes compulsing lying to lengths unseen.

PS: Nice to see Trump was 57 short of outdoing in 1 term what Obama did in 2.

Technically Obama issued more 😙

It is amazing the sheer number of them in the first half of the last century.

SMH LOL

What’s… uh, what does it look like FDR was doing then with that 290.6?

The Great Depression, WII, and whatever else Emperor FDR was pointing his sceptor at.

To be honest here, if the Japanese didn’t attack Pearl Harbor, we would’ve stayed out of World War II and probably avoided the Great Depression too. Then again, Hitler’s Nazi Germany would’ve also had an easier time conquering Europe which would’ve been bad for everyone else that didn’t share Hitler’s ideology.

The Great Depression preceded WWII. WWII was a boost to our economy, resurrecting it and leading to the Post War Boom that made us the richest thing on the planet.

Also FDR was determned to get us in that war, and the Nazis had threatened our shipping. So if not for Japan, ultimately Germany would have gotten us involved.

Hitler would have eventually exterminated anyone who wasn't German or Teutonic, which wouldn't be a good thing for his ally Mussolini & Italy.

.... and everybody else*

LOL SMH

LOL SMH

Okay. SMH