Annihilate, haha. Do you know how many countries have been kicked out of Afghanaistan.....ALL OF THEM THROUGHOUT HISTORY. We should have left in 2003 2004. Silly kids, probably werent even alive on 2003.
Yes, the British couldn't control Afghanistan in the 1870's and the Russians lost Afghanistan in the 1980's (thanks to the Reagan administration arming the Mujahedeen), but it's clear since Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and now Joe Biden that there hasn't been the will from sniveling generals (or muzzled generals) to WIN the war and to decimate the Taliban. They could have carpet bombed them 24 hours a day, seven days a week for the past 20 years, but they didn't and the Obama and now Biden administration in particular undermined the U.S. military's combat missions, thus emboldening the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and now ISIS-K.
This is just another Vietnam for America and its allies (Britain, Canada, France, etc.) and Kabul is falling just like Saigon fell. It's horrifying and the ramifications will echo for years to come regarding increased jihadist terrorist attacks in America and the West.
No, I'm not a soldier. Knowing some history of Afghanistan and being Gen X, I lived through the Cold War, and certainly had a keen interest in the Vietnam War and crumbling Afghanistan now. That's all. I don't have to serve in the military or have a history degree to know this disaster is going to hang around Joe Biden's neck like an albatross. Patriots won't forgive or forget this nightmare unfolding which will only endanger America and the West this year (the 20th anniversary of 9/11) and for years to come. It's common sense.
I did serve in the USAF, supporting those bombing sorties of B52s, in 1992 thru 1997. We should have never set up shop there, and just stayed in the air, but you cannot "win the hearts" of the afghan people with propaganda flyers being dropped....it was all self made, no doubt. Be good, have a good day.
I agree that it was pointless to have set up shop in Afghanistan since it's nearly impossible to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people and in any case, it's not the job of the U.S. military or of U.S. taxpayers to foot the bill for Afghan nation building and if any president or politician simply read the first 20 or 30 pages of Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War', they would know that a foreign army can never hold a region forever, particularly if the local population is resistant to having them there.
It's far better to strike hard and often, to wipe out as many terrorists as one can, and then get the hell out while monitoring the region with embedded reconnaissance troops or spies, drones, satellites, etc. to hit hard again once there is a resurgence of terrorists.
I'm sure this is hard for you as well as other servicemen and women to watch the chaos ensuing on the ground. Have a good day.
Yes, the Taliban were at the negotiating table under the Trump administration (under the Obama-Biden administration too), but it's Joe Biden's presidency now and as President Harry S. Truman famously said, "The buck stops here", so this Afghanistan debacle will hang around Swampy Joe's neck like an albatross.
So the country just starts over after every election?
Meeting with the Taliban and not including the Afghan President/govt a good idea too, right? So when the Taliban went to the Afhan army and said the USA is pulling out, you lay down your weapons or we hunt you down and kill you, was that Clumps plan too?
Yeah, that was not Trump's plan and in any case, the Taliban were lying as usual since they decapitated plenty of Afghan soldiers that surrendered their arms to them. The Taliban are also murdering Afghan men and women and their families as we speak for their collaboration with America and the allies.
Exactly, Stan. Afghanistan is for the Afghans, not the Americans or anyone else, so it was up to the Afghan Army to fight and spill their own blood to fight for their freedom just as Americans did during the American Revolution, the American Civil War, and just as all the Allies did in World War I and II, especially World War II to liberate Western Europe from Nazi tyranny.
If the Afghans want freedom from the Taliban, they have to fight tooth and nail to earn it, but I do sympathize with the horror show going on right now.
If I could kill all of the Taliban with a single thought, they'd all be dead right now.