You want a mandate?! The 2022 elections are coming, you piece of crap!

Your sorry. Again the question was any liberal want to defend her? Read first post. You answered a statement in 1st sentence. Clown

You started this whole argument because it hard for you to read. Wipe that egg off your face. Take a nap

So emotional.

Clearly your a dumbass. You have no answer

Such emotional wussies on thus site. Using flags as safe spaces

I cannot defend Pelosi's actions but I stand by my statement that antivaxxers are the bigger issue right now than Pelosi. Afghanistan maybe just above her as well. The Pandemic still being number one with the biggest death toll, obviously. But I do have one follow-up question. What is "fake as hell", exactly?

Actually the survival rate is much lower than that.

It is much difficult to guage the data now that we have real solutions in place to keep that survability that high.

We saw an increase of the overall death rate of about 17% last year. That's an abnormal increase by about 400,000 deaths. The CDC last clocked 385, 249 deaths in 2020 that were attributed to covid.

We're almost nine months into 2021 and that annual number is at 229, 282. Meaning we're seeing another abnormal increase of 8%.

The CDC estimates that 90% of those deaths (a conservative estimate, I might add) are attributed to the unvaccinated. The Delta variants are not just targeting the weak or the elderly, but people in the once thought untouchable age ranges of 18-65.

Personally, I think it's a responsibility to take this seriously but if it relieves your frustrations about people telling you what to do, by all means. Joke about it.

We could use a little humor, I see no harm in that. But humor only works when it's based on truth and yours is a little off the mark.

I think you have your numbers off there....

However if it were 17 percent, it's because the Baby Boomers are dying off in their natural life cycle. Baby Boomers made the highest birth rate of any generation in the United States. They are now well into their Retirement Years and dying...

"And a lot of those boomers ... Were full fledged drug crazed hippies. Explains them dying off sooner"

Let me show you why that's an unreasonable response.

There are about 10,000 US citizens Afghanistan. If I were to say", Well, they cared more about Afghanistan than their own country so it's not our problem;" would you find that to be the same exact response?

If not, then I think we can both agree that 30,000 Americans dead who are not 65 and older is a lot. Even 10,492. And those numbers in ages 0-49 are not going to stop any time soon until we reach herd immunity. And the best way to achieve that is through vaccination.

Heck, I could even say that "Most of the people dying are just unvaccinated so, they deserve it."

But here is the rub, not everyone is eligible for the vaccine and so not everyone has that choice to get or not get it. And their lives are at risk while the pandemic continues. And I'm sure once we cross that threshold of 350,000 Americans dead in one year, you'll only be too happy to pin it on Democrats rather than take the responsibility for your own actions.

Like conservatives are suppose to.

"And a lot of those boomers ... Were full fledged drug crazed hippies. Explains them dying off sooner"

Mostly the unvaccinated are the ones dying from Covid now.

Your correlation fails to take into account that it's not only baby boomers and elder people.

Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. They're currently between 57-75 years old (71.6 million in the U.S.)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/baby%20boomer

The people Covid is most effecting does have some overlap with people 65 and up.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

But it’s not just the boomers as that only accounts for about 5/6th of the abnormal jump in overall deaths in a year. And yes, it is still an abnormal increase when compared to the previous decade.

2010, total deaths 2,468,435
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_04.pdf
2011, total deaths 2,515,458 (1.9% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf
2012, total deaths 2,543,279 (1.1% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf
2013, total deaths 2,596,993 (2.1% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
2014, totals deaths 2,626,418 (1.1% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf
2015, total deaths 2,712,630 (3.3% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr66/nvsr66_06.pdf
2016, total deaths 2,744,248 (1.2% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_05.pdf
2017, total deaths 2,813,503 (2.5% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf
2018, total deaths 2,839,205 (0.9% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr69/nvsr69-13-508.pdf
2019, total deaths 2,854,838 (0.6% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-H.pdf
2020, total deaths 3,358,814 (17.7% increase from last year)
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

2020 saw the highest death rate increase in ten years by 17.7% The highest percentage before that was 3.3%... if we were to take the previous years total deaths (2,854,838) and subtract that by the second highest average increase of 3.3% (94,210), that means we're left with a significant increase in deaths by 409,766 deaths!
According to the CDC, we had about 375,000 deaths attributed to Covid.

And a lot of those boomers ... Were full fledged drug crazed hippies. Explains them dying off sooner

See? I don't believe those numbers. Last year, only 6% of the deaths (perhaps not end of year totals) were attributed to covid alone. The average death had 2.8 other comorbidities factoring in. Add the fact that hospitals had a financial incentive to list deaths as covid and it leads to alot of bs. Now, lockdowns and masks and shit I have no real fundamental problem with, even with these crappy masks only about 10% effective. It's being told to take an experimental medicine with no long term testing that I take real issue with.

That and the microchip they implant of course. 🧠

How do you account for the 17% overall death rate increase, then?

This conversation is over. I don't debate with emotional individuals who flag others posts. I have no respect for that. Is there something wrong with you. I don't have to answer questions from keyboard warriors who flag. You have been going on all day about anti vaxxers. I never mentioned anti vaxxers in my post you decided to chime in on. Your clearly a closet liberal. You act just like them. This whole argument today is ridiculous. You keep arguing anti vaxxers! Anti vaxxers! Your an instigator who keeps beating your own drum to people who could give a shit what your opinion is. Lol.

Dude, I got flagged too. My take away is to be more respectful. I hope you've learned to be less emotional and not take things so personally. I wasn't even talking about you, my dude.

You obviously do give a "shit" about my opinion because you keep replying.

Have a good one.

I'll let it be known you flag comments. Show your true colors

I wonder when "disagreeing with another user" will be a reason for comment deletions? But it's good. That way five year olds can come here safely and spread knowledge about politics.

I know u flagged me don't act like u didn't. I'm new but not stupid. You got embarrassed because you arguing anti vaxxers, which had nothing to do with what I said. Like any closet liberal, you didn't even read the post. Just started spewing anti vaxxer shit. You looked stupid, u had no upvotes, I had several. Nobody agreed with you. Nobody. I've never blocked anybody, but I get it now. Imgflip has a lot of instigators. Come at you, you comeback, they flag. They get embarrassed or their fragile feelings get hurt, they silence you. So I'm blocking. I don't have time for narcissists. I'm not your dude. A conservative that flags people. Lol. Thats a new one.

Oh I'm sorry are u expecting a response?

Oh I'm not Emotional at all. Lol. I'm just confuse why your picking an argument to have about anti vaxxers. I'm not an anti vaxxer, I just choose not to get the shot. I noticed that's your go to. Basically all u rant and rave about. You keep arguing same thing with conservatives and just keep going in circles. You accomplish nothing. Everyday you and anti vaxxers go at it, but yet neither one is gonna change the others mind. But hey if your for no progress in the same argument, have it. I don't mind if I'm attacked, I got thick skin. Just take that anti vaxxer shit to the actual anti vaxxers.

Well u responded to my comment. So how does one take that? So asking are you expecting a response is now emotional? Lol. Believe me bud you would never get me emotional. People like you are on here to instigate. Go ahead whatever floats your boat, but I swear, you did not get me emotional, but if it gets your testosterone going, and u get a kick out of it, tell yourself you did. Lol.

See I knew who u were in 10 seconds. Read you like a book. You don't happen to play poker by chance?

Great minds...

Oh, well. I'm not a liberal. But it's funny that you think I am.

Dude, that's hilarious that you think that's me.

Now, don't forget that the world doesn't revolve around you and take things so personally, like a good boy.