Leonardo Inception (Extended)

You do 100% you can be racist in America and I say more power to you. On the other hand? You have no "right" to think you are not accountable for your words and actions.

That is why people who say racist and other stupid shit loser their jobs and can find themselves arrested for hate crimes. There is a difference between saying "racist" things and other stupid shit compared to literally assaulting others based on your bs beliefs

Are you old enough to remember the fake "christian" baker? People claimed he had the right to refuse service based on his "religious" beliefs.

Now those same people are spewing bs about their "right" to free speech on FB or Twitter. That is a lie. No one has a "right" to free speech on privately owned platforms. FB and the rest can legally censor whoever the F they like. CASE CLOSED

Btw we stated the baker is a "fake" Christian because he does not refuse service to sinning Christians who violate the bible daily. In fact if he was a "real" christian he would not even be able to do business if he actually believed the bible.

He's just a homphobe using religion to rationalize his BS.

There's a great video by Freedom Toons about why social media censorship isn't okay in the same way as government censorship.

If I was a baker and someone wanted a cake so that he could throw it in his wife's face, it would be normal to decline baking him that cake. Because I believe what he wants to do is wrong. Maybe an odd analogy, but similar principle. Who wants to support what he believes to be wrong?

1st We are not going reply simply to try and piss you off we will simply use facts, rational and logical thought in our repsonce

2nd You are simply attempting to justify your double standards and hypocrisy with what even you stated is not odd but a stupid "analogy"

3rd Cartoons don't matter as to what the Constitution says so we won't bother viewing that.

You are correct that there is a difference between "government" and "private" censorship

Private censorship is 100% legal and constitutional. While Government censorship is supposed to be "illegal"

Unfortunataly the government and it's "law enforcement" traitors violate the constitution daily.

Lastly Humans love to rationalize and believe things without reason or factual evidence. Why humans do this is truly beyond us. But they do it non the less.

Religion is the 100% worst mental defect humans suffer from. A rational person who uses logic knows ALL religion is a mental delusiuon that people willfully inflict upon themselves.

Other wise rational and logical people suddely switch off their abilty to think in a reasonable, logical and rartional way regarding "religion" AND WORSE!! They weaponize it agianst other people in a pathetic attempt to coerce others

Without religion there's absolutely no way to consider how the universe exists, why there is purpose to life, or if a set moral standard exists, but okay buddy.

Your entire statement was "false" on it's face to the period at the end.

But we will play along and pretty much predict your answers.

Q: Assuming you are correct and nothing can exist "without religion" Which "religion" are you refering to?

There have been literally THOUSANDS of made made relgions throughout human history. So which "religion" are you refering to?

If you are an American we predict you will claim "Christianity" Is that correct?

We were talking about religion in general, but I'll jump on the deflection train.

Instead of just saying someone is wrong the point of a debate or argument is kinda to say why something is incorrect.

Anyway, yes, specifically I would talk about Christianity. The one religion with a perfect text (the Bible) that commands people to love everyone but speak the truth, that works can't help you out, that has fulfilled prophecies, that has stood the test of time and endured intense persecution, etc. etc.

Your new "reply" is likewise utterly false on it's face.

The "Bible" is in no way what so ever "perfect" It's a piece of fantasy garbarge that has 0 geniune evidence that would prove it to be true. NOTHING ZERO

You made the claim so prove your claim to be true. You won't be able to.

You believe things for no reason and people who believe things for no factual reason can not be reasoned with. Have a nice day

I believe in things like faith and love, intangible things whose existence can't technically be proven. I believe historical figures whose existence I could never witness existed. I believe my senses aren't tricking me and I actually see what I can see. All of us believe something by faith.

The Bible's relevance has endured, in part because its critics can't really find anything wrong with it. The biggest reason though is that the Bible itself states its perfection. That's where the faith part comes in.

What do you have faith in? The big bang theory? Or do you just not care how or why humanity came into existence?

1. Trump was using the office to silence his critics

2. Trump has a history of racism and no amount of lying changes that. So does Biden to be fair

3.Right wingers as well "idoctrinate" their kids and demand they dictate what the government "teach" ALL children not just their kids.

You know? Like prayer in school. Just a few days ago Abbott of Texas signed into law that it can not be tuaght to view racism as immoral. Go head we would love to hear how that won't entice racists

Finally niether party has ever done anything other than expand the police state. Via Local, State, And Federal Government surveillance. Biden is not disbanding or defunding police lolol but you people hang on every word you hear Trump and his ass kissers say

And the only ones we see cheering on over reaching government and goose stepping militarized police who violate the law and constitution every day are Trumper supporters

They are literally in favor of the police state

So go ahead and rationalize your Anti American BS by accsuing others so we can laugh at you

Let's review:

#1 - It's pretty far-fetched to think that "Trump was using the office to silence his critics". Anyone who was paying attention knows full well that Trumps many critics had book deals, leaked all over the place, and could basically say whatever they wanted (remember the pee-pee claim?).

#2 - "History of racism"? I know that that is the *narrative* that has been created, but the *narrative isn't necessarily the truth. Even the infamous "good people on both sides" claim was fake, and fortunately the testimony at the impeachment hearing made that clear.

#3 - Do you think that teaching your own kids values is "indoctrination"? The issue here is not teaching one's own children, but forcing schools to teach values which are debatable at best, and racist at worst.

As for Gov. Abbott's law, I checked this out, and what I discovered was that you have a fundamental misunderstanding. The law does not prohibit teaching that racism is immoral. Please, when you see articles in the mainstream media that make such claims, DOUBT WHAT YOU READ and try to find out the actual details before believing them.

And no, Trump supporters are not "cheering on over reaching government and goose stepping militarized police who violate the law and constitution". Where in the world did you get that idea?

And Trump supporters are "literally in favor of the police state"? What in the world? That's simply hogwash.

You seem to have some fundamental misunderstandings both about the serious threat by the left, and about the actual beliefs of those on the right.

Trump literally asked the DOJ to investigate SNL and Jimmy Kimmel for daring to laugh at him.
Not to mention using the DOJ to spy on journalists, political opponents, and their families.

Great response. Unfortunetly you can not reason with people who ignore FACT and refuse to be reasonable

We assume that perhaps one day their will be no Trump supporters left with how happy they are jumping off the cliff for Trump.

It's like that scene from the 80's Conan The Barbian flick.

James Earl Jones tells the women to jump and fall to her death. And she smiles on the way down. lol

Go ahead and you'll find the classic "unnamed sources" for that SNL report. That's a classic leftist media move. And when did the DOJ "spy on journalists, political opponents, and their families"?

During the Trump administration.

It truly is a laugh a minute for us watching Trump supporters flopping about like dishonest, lying, and arrogant snowflakes who are triggered by reality and facts the don't like lolololol Thank you for the never ending

If you could just accept that had Trump just kept his mouth shut and quitely did his job he would have most likely won in 2020

But? he could'nt his whole new level of narcissism would not allow him to. To be so thin skinned you are attacking "anyone" and "everyone" who may dislike or oppose you that he goes into total nucular meltdowns lolol

The simple fact is enough people just got tired of his man child BS. And we are not even going to address all the other issues that has always exposed how full of shit he has always been.

You can choose to ignore the type of person he is. That exposes he was, is, and never will be a trustable person.

You simply turn a blind eye to it all. And that exposes something rather scary about you and his supporters.

Eh? Sorry, but you seem to have some misconceptions. First of all, I never claimed Trump was beyond criticism as you insinuate. Second, the reality is that it is extremely difficult for Republicans to win when they are running against the Democrats AND the mainstream media AND Big Tech. Setting strange voting irregularities aside (that will hopefully be investigated fully), the reality is that Trump received at least 74 million votes - more than Obama ever did. Biden received "80 million votes", although how exactly that occurred will remain one of the most enduring mysteries of political history.

Were there people made at Trump because of "mean tweets"? Yes, of course. However, I think that when we see the utterly disastrous tenure of Biden - from the border crisis, to detained kids, to the censorship, to the Big Brother tactics, to the Hunter Biden scandals, etc. - people will be seeing just how much better they had it when "Mr. Mean Tweets" was in office.

You should wake up before it's too late. Just because you think you side with the current regime doesn't mean they won't come after you eventually.

1st We never claimed you "said" anything so maybe you should proof read our post. We used a plural to describe Trump supporters. Trump supporters are in fact doing as we stated.

As for Republicans winning? Trump supporters are anything but "Republicans" We know something about that since we have been Red voters are all lives. True Republicans hate Trump.

Trump the guy who was a democrat but suddenly needed to be Republican because Trump is whatever he needs to be at any given time to further his personal agenda. Which has always been himself.

It's a true mystery to us that some can listen to him speak and not realize what a massive arrogant and case study narrcist he is. He is a dangerous type of narrcasist.

This should be easy for you to grasp. Nothing Biden says or does will ever exonerate or make Trump a "good guy" or a "good leader"

Other countries like China, Russia, And NK were ever fearful of Trump. And that is a fact. Biden seems weak to us. But again Trump was not going to bully anyone.

In fact? he bowed down to Putin 100% all putin had to do was stroke stroke Trumps narcisstic ego.
And he rolled over for Putin to get a belly scratch.

Oh look!! you fogot that the "border crises" began under Trump and his bs "wall" that was a "fence" that mexico was never going to pay did not work.

Just before Trump left crying from the WH he claimed the "wall" was basically finsihed lolol

So how can there be a crises if the "wall" was going to stop illegals?? LOLOL

Facts and rational thought mean nothing to you.

You literally said, "You can choose to ignore the type of person he is", and you also directed the rest of your statement at me.

Look, it's clear that you have many personal biases which are clouding your judgment. You are even continuing the leftist narrative about the "Trump Russia conspiracy theory".

If you want to continue to discuss matters, please set aside such biases and be willing to consider facts. Too many people find opinions and claim that they are facts, when they are not.

Here are some links to support our claim regarding the Texas inticing racist

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/social-justice/texas-senate-votes-to-remove-required-lessons-on-civil-rights

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/15/abbott-critical-race-theory-law/

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/07/16/texas-gop-expand-limits-race-discussion-all-subjects/7977281002/

It is pretty crystal clear that Abbot and his right wing minions are attempting to white wash American history. The fact you are trying to defend it only exposes what kind of person you are.

Here is just one of so many videos where Trump speaks about "good people on both sides"

And he literally attempts to blame "Democrats" for the violence but has to back track when he's called on it

We are using all caps here so you don't miss it. We are not yelling lol

NO ONE AND WE MEAN NO ONE WHO MARCHES ALONG SIDE AND MINGLES WITH RACISTS IS A "GOOD PERSON" NOT EVER

Parents do in fact indoctrinate/brainwash their kids. And further more "your" view as to what "good values" are is 100% subjective. Not objective there are no moral absolutes

Humans rationalize their hypocrisy and "moral double standards" onj a daily bases.

Yep even we have been hypocrites the difference for us is we regonize it and never attempt to excuse it. And we try to be better. Take a look around lol

Both parties are awash in pure BS

Lastly. Yes self titled patriorts literally "cheer on" The American Police State. They do it every time they blindly support and defend cops.

Cops regardless of the Antidotal examples of when they do something worthwhile are agents of the local, state and Federal Government. They do not work for or "protect" the public art large.

Even SCOTUS has ruled so. Their primary function is to impose the will and dictates of the government.

And since "law enforcement" suffer from A-moral personalities they happily goosestep to the orders of governemnt.

America the land of "freedom and liberty" is riddled and flooded with so many bs laws that "maximum" freedom is impossible.

We love actual freedom and while there are justified laws that are required most of them?? total bs and nothing more than revenue extortion. And cops havce no problem going as far as killing people to impose the will of "THE SWAMP"

What a great slogan "Drain The Swamp" in order to actually do that guess what? You would have to get cops out of the way 1st

Before we go any further, I challenge you to READ the sources you provided and state exactly the evidence that you think shows that Texas student "can not be tuaght to view racism as immoral". That is what you claimed, but you haven't supported that claim.

As for the "good people on both sides", I invite you to READ THE TRANSCRIPT. Do it. Stop reading biased news media accounts of it. Read the ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT. Here is just a part of what Trump said:

"You had people and i'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group too."

As for your other claims, you make some dubious ones. For example, you claimed "And further more "your" view as to what "good values" are is 100% subjective. Not objective there are no moral absolutes". Not only does your claim give moral justification to regimes such as the Nazis, but you also support my claim that CRT values shouldn't be used in schools.

And no, "self titled patriorts literally "cheer on" The American Police State. They do it every time they blindly support and defend cops," that is not true. Supporting the police again unfair criticism is not "cheering on the police state".

You're basically taking the position that agreeing to have police in your town is equivalent to accepting the police state in your town, which is rather absurd.

You seem to have a lot of misconceptions about politics and the world. If you want, I can point you to some resources where you get get some better information.

Holy smokes LOLOL We did read them lolol we are done here. While Trump supporters are good for a brief laugh it gets old fast. So we look elsewhere to new joksters

Sounds like Republicans.

Nope, the left. We're closer to totalitarianism than ever before because of the left.

And yet the Right is trying for a one party state.

The evidence does not show that, but does show that the left is trying to do that.

There is almost no Left in American politics.

Evidence suggests otherwise.

No it doesn't.

It does.

I think that an inaccurate characterization. For example, we know that Twitter, which heavily leans to the left, actively censored news that was damaging to Biden's presidential bid. It was utterly egregious. Never has something similarly been done by the right in decades. We also know that the Obama and/or Biden Administrations surveilled private conversations made by Trump and Tucker Carlson, and then using that as a political weapon (in the case of Tucker, that was apparently the plan). I am not aware of any Republicans who ever did something similar to politicians on the left.

So while it may sound convenient to say "all sides are to blame", the blame is actually deserving of one side.

You are correct that Twitter is a private company. And while they did engage in leftist censorship, that was not the government's bidding. So instead I'll point out the Biden Administration's using of Facebook to censor people about the vaccine.

These examples of leftist overreach are becoming easier and easier to find.

As for the argument that "both sides do it", it is a highly misleading one. If one side does something once for every one hundred times the other side does it, technically speaking, they're both "guilty of it". However, it is an example of the fallacy of false balance.

That's because the two sides, in fact, do not do it to the same degree, which is why you are committing the fallacy of false balance. For example, the Biden Administration is working with Big Tech to suppress speech, whereas this did not happen under Trump. For example, the Obama Administration is known to have surveilled Trump using dubious information. There is no evidence the Trump Administration surveilled Biden. There is evidence that leftist CRT and related racist ideologies are being systematically promoted by government actors during the Biden Administration. I am aware of no evidence that racist ideologies were systematically promoted under the Trump Administration.

So yes, using the "well, everyone is guilty of it" line of argumentation is quite misleading.

Using alleged and vague "ties" between a member of an administration and "racist organizations" as a means of supporting a point that the administration itself engaged in systematically racist ideologies is quite dubious.

Likewise, using an administration's actions about a report, and somehow inferring that that shows the systematic promotion of racism, is spurious.

I have raised some significant examples which are of serious concern, and you have not shown comparable evidence supporting the same actions under Trump. Examples *are* evidence.

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Real fascists call everyone else fascists in hopes that no one will see the real fascists for who they really are.

You mean like how Trump supporters keep calling "left wingers" communist and socialist?

Do you mean how Trump supporters keep calling anyone who won't support their dear leader a "Rhino"

Or are you refering to Trump supporters calling Democrats "Hypocrites" and how they have no "standards" lol

We watch sides and their BS and just shake our heads in sadness

Nope. Not at all.

Left wingers have been communists, socialists, fascists and Nazis long before Trump was even born. The early 20th century American Progressives used to praise Stalin, Mussolini and, yes, even Adolf Hitler openly. They had huge rallies and events in which they talked about those men were the "men of the future". They held rallies at places like the Madison Square Garden in NYC, that is how big the Progressive movement was.

Then eventually in about 1928 or 29 stories started coming out of the Soviet Union of genocide. Of purposely starving Ukrainians to death and Stalin murdering anyone who he suspected as being a traitor to him and their entire family and anyone who knew that person.

Then WWII broke out and the Progressives hid. They blamed the Nazis and fascists on the American right wing and it still sticks to this day. There is no reason whatsoever to label those who support the American Constitution and freedom as Nazi and fascists. The right has always been the polar opposite of them. That label even convinced the remaining Neo-Nazis to switch from Democrat to Republican.

The 60's happened and the socialists and communists reared their ugly heads again and got slapped back down. They kept popping up again until Obama was elected. After that they stopped hiding who they were. Bernie Sanders openly declared he was a socialist. AOC openly declares she is a socialist. Others, like Biden, will never declare that. And in fact when Biden had all his faculties he wasn't a full on socialist. Now that his brain is gone the puppet masters are making him enact all sorts of socialist BS.

So when anyone on the right calls someone on the left a socialist or communist, it is because they ARE a socialist or communist or at least ignorantly supporting socialism and communism. It is just not very hard to recognize those who have their lips permanently attached to Karl Marx's butt. He codified what it meant to be a socialist, communist, fascist and Nazi.

Other than l the remaining Neo-Nazis who switched from Democrat to Republican as, like, sleep agents n shit......

sleeper* agents

You're putting words in my mouth. Stop doing that.

I said all of those ideologies are left-wing. Some further left than others. Democrats have been infested with run-of-the-mill socialists. While socialism shares the same foundation as the others their are differences. In fact socialism today isn't exactly like the socialism that took over the Democrat Party a century ago. The same is true of Marxism.

As far as being extremely bigoted I would have to say after Trump, I have never ever seen the level of bigotry that the left still has for Trump. Although the left's bigotry over Sarah Palin was pretty close.

Bigot is NOT a political ideology. It is a human failing. Everyone is capable of bigotry. The right does not have the exclusive rights to bigotry. There is just as much, if not more on the left. "Hating the hater" is still hate. And when you look at the people the left accuses of being haters the the ONLY hatred is coming from the left. Martin Luther King Jr said you cannot end hatred with more hate. You can only end it with love.

There's not a single socialist or communist politician in America.

No, he copypastes material then alters it at the end of the paragraph to retrofit it to his bogus narrative.

He'll post a copypasted history of the Armenian Genocide then suddenly tack on a "so therefore Democrats"

Sounds like you guys have me all figured out. Too bad you're all wrong.

I've never copied and pasted anything, modified or unmodified. It so easy to show Nazism and fascism as left wing ideologies. They both are heavily influenced by Karl Marx. Hitler is almost like a reincarnation of Marx because they have so much in common.

The American right wing has ALWAYS been the pro-Constitution, pro-freedom people. Those are the polar opposite of all variations of Marxism. We have absolutely nothing to do with it Nazis and fascists. We are the ones who went to war with the Nazis and fascists.

They repulse us, all of us. We still are in a war of words with Nazis, fascists, socialists, communists and any other regime that threatens our freedom and natural rights.

So all of you freedom haters can just stuff it.

So you have no clue what Marxism is.

As a former right-winger, I can personally attest that that's exactly what they think.

As a current right-winger I can personally attest that I have never ever supported Nazism, fascism, socialism, communism, racism or anything else you can "personally attest" to.

I have always and constantly been pro-freedom, pro-natural rights, pro-free market and pro-America.

How you can think that any of that sounds like Nazism or fascism is beyond me. All I can say is you have absolutely no clue what either of those regimes are about.

If you really are a "former right winger" then what happened? Did you suffer a massive brain injury? You can't go from free thinking and freedom to collective thought and action unless something tragic happened.

As current independents who had no other choice than to jump the Republican ship when Trump showed up and transformed into a circus of insanity.

We can attest we have never seen a "shred" of credible evidence of what Trumplicans accuse Deomcrats of. Or the stuff they accuse anyone who won't kiss Trumps ring of.

As for racists, homophobs, and so on in the Trumplican Party?

We won't accuse you since we have no facts that would support it. BUT! We have seen enough factual evidence that our highjacked party is over run with crazy racists and other detestable crap

I jumped out of the Republican Party several years ago. I joined the Constitution Party.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 but I did in 2020.

I can see that you have bought into the left's Marxist indoctrination that everyone on the right are racists and homophobes. And I say Marxist on purpose. It is a tactic that the Critical Theory Marxists decided on years ago. If anyone disagrees with Critical Theory then they must be branded a fascist.

Then Critical Race Theory was formed in the 80's because Critical Theory wasn't working, So now those who disagree are racists in addition to fascists.

But here is the thing. THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN FASCISTS IN AMERICA EXCEPT IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT. Fascism is just another variation of Socialism. Author H.G. Wells was steeped in the Progressive movement and he called himself a "Liberal Fascist".

There is racism but it exists in much higher numbers on the left. The entire Critical Race Theory is extremely racist. The right is not even close in numbers.

The left loves to play guilt transference. They can be as awful people as possible and then blame it all on the right. They have been doing that for over half a century.

The Republicans have their own sins to deal with but they aren't what the Dems accuse them of.