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The party directly calls for the removal of your rights. What makes you think they'll leave you alone if they win? | TO ALL LGBTQ+ PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE ALT-RIGHT, ASK YOURSELF:; WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE ALT-RIGHT DOESN'T NEED YOU ANYMORE? | image tagged in lgbtq flag,republicans,equal rights | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Wait. . .WHAT? WHAT? LGBTQ supports Alt 'the worst at pretending to not be racists' Right!? Even the greenest of Republicans and Conservatives discovers what the Alt Right is all about by doing less than five of research. This deserves a Meme Reply but I'm too stunned to actually think of something.
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Some do, for some f**king reason, support the altright, and it's not a joke.
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Boy George once said of conservative gays that they're like vegetarian butchers.
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Do you even know who the Alt-right are? They're not conservatives. They are an ALTernate Right and there's only a small handful of them. They're the racists who left the Democrat Party thinking they might find a home in the Republican Party. They might fit with some of the Republican leadership but not with the voters. They still fit in with the Democrats much more seamlessly than anyone on the right.
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I never said there weren't racists and bigots on the right. What I am saying is that the vast majority of the right are NOT racists and/or bigots. Just like the left is not all racists or bigots but some are.

What I'm also saying is that the political views of the neo Nazis are much more in line with the left. Socialists are socialists even if they are National Socialists. They are ALL social justice warriors trying to bring down capitalism. Nazi's also hate blacks and Jews just like to more extreme left. And you don't have to go very far on the extreme left before you start seeing the anti-Semitism.
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"That seems a gracious concession from you"

I've always believed this. Racism is not a political issue is a human issue. All races have people who are racist against others. All political parties have racists.

I may not have been clear in the past because the left wants to paint EVERYONE is does not march 100% in lock step with them as the worst of the worst. And I have been trying to tell you that anyone who thinks like that is out of their minds. They are not living in the real world.

"Then why do neo-Nazis hate communists and liberals?"

I don't know. Perhaps you should ask them. Why did the Italian socialists execute Mussolini? Why did the German socialists hate the Nazis and vice versa? Stalin called Mussolini a right winger and he meant that as an insult, a serious insult, like if someone used the "N" word or how the left and the right calls each others Nazis.

"Ask 100 neo-Nazis if they identify as socialists or support socialism. How many do you think will say yes?"

All of them. If they answer, no, then they are idiots and are just hanging out with them because the hate Jews and blacks.

"That's absurd and stupid. Neo-Nazis don't all hate capitalism, and SJWs fight AGAINST them."

That is your opinion. In the 1920's, at the height of the Progressive era, (when the American left openly and publically embraced Nazism) the American Nazi Party published a newsletter entitled "Social Justice". Social justice has always meant the same thing. It is about justice for the "oppressed". All socialists, the ones who actually know what socialism is, all hate capitalism.

"And even more people on the extreme right"

Opinion, not fact.

"And you don't have to even go that far on the right."

Not true. The further right you go the more freedom minded and the smaller to no government minded people are. They really don't care what anyone else does regardless of race because it is none of their business. These are libertarians and anarchists (not social anarchists - those people are what Stalin called "useful idiots"). A true anarchist does not want to collapse one type of government and replace it with another. They don't want ANY government.

So I go back to a previous statement, racism is not a political issue. However, there seems to be a lot of Antisemitism showing up on the left in the past 10 or 15 years. Of course it is your side who is telling everyone that blacks are too stupid to get a voter ID. So there's that.
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"You mean like Richard Spencer, Andrew Anglin and Paul Joseph Watson? Oh wait, they're on the right."

I've never heard of the first two. I heard of Watson and have watched a few of his YouTube videos. I've never heard anything antisemitic from him. You'll have to provide proof because the left is real good about accusing people of stuff they never do. It's guilt transference.

I first noticed the left's antisemitism watching coverage of Occupy Wall Street. It showed up again with the Antifa/BLM riots. Then there were those on the left who went after the Asians in NYC. The were punching them for no reason.

"There's actually not that, because liberals aren't saying that as a whole, or even a large group."

All of the Democrats in public office say that requiring a voter ID is racist. So if you voted for any of those Democrats in Congress or the president then you support the idea that blacks are too stupid to get a voter ID. If you side is going to call everything they oppose racist then they have to live with the consequences of their actions.

Fortunately a lot of blacks are seeing your side for who the really are and are leaving and coming over to our side.

If you voted for Biden, you and those who committed voter fraud put the most racist president in the White House in a very long time.
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'"the left' doesn't do that. Some people on the left AND right do that."

Sure they do. See what your leftist friends say to you if you starting talking about taxes being to high or if you refer to illegal immigrants as "illegal". Try just saying that "Trump wasn't that bad". They will banish you.

"So before the Nazis carried out any atrocities?"

The Progressives started to shut up about their love for those socialist dictators starting around 1928 when the NY Times finally reported on the atrocities of the Soviet Union. But it wasn't until it looked like we were going to go to war when they went underground and distanced themselves from the fascists and Nazis. That was when they started calling conservatives fascists and Nazis. In other words they lied because they didn't want to look bad.

I doubt it. Words change. Language changes."

Yes language does change. Just like Marxism has changed. But the basis of social justice was that the workers and the poor were being oppressed by the business owners and the rich. So the rich must be made to give their money to the poor. That was social justice back then. Now it is still that but it has added Critical Race Theory where white people must be treated like 2nd class citizens to pay for their "oppressing" blacks.

"No, it's a fact that modern day neo-Nazis tend to hate liberals and communists."

They hate Constitutionalists also. If they do hate communists it is because Nazism is only 99% the same as communism and that 1% difference is enough to make all of those collectivist systems want to kill each other.

"False again. Many (not all) people on the far-right have totalitarian views and many have very bigoted views."

You are soooooooo wrong. Everyone on the right is always screaming that the government is too big and too powerful. If you go further right you get the Libertarians and they are more adamant about reducing the size of government and getting government out of our lives. To the right of them are the anarchists and voluntaryists. They do not want ANY government at all. None. So all of that big bloated, powerful, totalitarian and authoritarian government crap is ALL on the left. You guys are the reason our government is so controlling. You think government's job is regulate the crap out of business and give everyone money. You think government is the solution to all of the country's problems. That's you, not us. You crave authoritarianism.
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Alt Right is Far Right, and in case you get all confused about the latter as well, "Far Right" does not mean as far from the Right Wing as someone can get.
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The alt-right is not the tiny sliver of racists, but mostly independently-minded libertarians that overlap with some rights-oriented ex-Dems.

Remember it was the Clintons, not Libertarians, who opportunistically threw the LGBTQ people to the wolves for political advantage.

Alt-right has convictions that they will stand by. Opportunistic Democrats have few to none.
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