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This is how 2A WORKS | If biden thinks that the people would need F-15s and nukes to defeat a tyrannical govenment; Then the second ammendment should guarantee the right to F-15s and nukes | image tagged in jim halpert explains | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Technically, it doesn't NOT say it... but there are already laws on the books prohibiting them. If anyone actually READ those laws they'd see that we should spend more time ENFORCING those laws than looking to further regulate/ban firearms.
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Well if you consider the national guard to be the militia, we should turn all nukes over to them. Under state control.
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Militia (noun)
o a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
o a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.
o all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.

The National Guard is an oddly a grey entity. While they fit the description of a militia, they simultaneously recognized by the US as state-funded reserve forces - they even have their own federal pay code for training/duty with the Army. They are rarely called upon for anything other than CONUS emergencies; whereas the US military focuses mainly on OCONUS. But, as I alluded to, they answer to their state AND the federal government... so taking government munitions and giving them to another entity subordinate to the government is likely not going to accomplish what you'd like to accomplish.

But whether or not we should give nuclear armaments to Joe Civilian, a particular state or a militia is a silly debate. As I said before, while the 2nd amendment doesn't explicitly ban it, there are laws already on the books that do. Whether that is in keeping with the Constitution is a question for SCOTUS.
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Try using the definition at the time the constitution was written. Here I'll put it here for you "Every abled bodied person above the age of 16 that can bear arms."
It all falls to the definition of 'arms'. legally every citizen can own nukes if they are considered 'arms'. Due to the laws on the books being outranked by the 2nd amendment.
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Absolutely! EVERY abled bodied person can... we agree... and so does SCOTUS in their holding v Heller in 2008 that stated 2A "... protects an individual[sic] right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes".

Again... it's true enough that 2A doesn't put a limit of what a civilian can own... to include nukes. However, the gun laws currently enforced by the FBI and ATF (or more accurately ATFE... they enforce laws governing the distribution/possession of explosives too) have been upheld by State and Federal courts. There would need to have suit brought against each law individually and have it elevated to the Supreme Course. There, they would very likely be struck down as unconstitutional by a SCOTUS ruling.

It may be a long road to hoe convincing SCOTUS that possession of a nuclear weapon is for a "traditionally lawful purpose" though. Not impossible... just more effort - and money - than most are willing to put in.
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Yup!
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Agreed
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We're not giving nukes to you insecure asshats, no.
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The colonists possessed and used the most powerful weapons of the era against the British.
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If biden thinks that the people would need F-15s and nukes to defeat a tyrannical govenment; Then the second ammendment should guarantee the right to F-15s and nukes