You're fired.

The worthless face mask replies, "I work as a full time virtue-signaller for leftists."

You can also tell who all the sheep are by who is still wearing them.

Yep.

If you're still waving a Drumpf flag and crying about election fraud.

What does that have to do with the sheep still wearing masks?!?!

Maybe people aren't being sheep by wearing masks, maybe they're trying to help keep themselves and each other safe. Whereas the real sheep are the ones who still think the pandemic is a hoax even after the recording was released of the cheeto admitting it's five times worse than the flu. But because he came out and said it was a hoax at a rally, all his sheep are still holding on to that? (See the Capitol Coup for further evidence of Cult45's sheep status).

yeah. masks are worthless. especially the cloth ones. they stop nothing. just a virtue signal.

Lame tired argument. The mask and social distancing won't work if only some of us are doing it., obviously. @@

Are we brainwashed or virtue signaling? Because you can't have it both ways.

If we believe the masks work and are our best chance of protecting ourselves and others, then we are doing what we think is right. Virtue signaling is intentionally doing or saying something publicly to display your virtue - since wearing a mask is something you are supposed to do in public it doesn't apply.

I would have to disagree with you. If one has fallen under the persuasion of a cult which convinces easily duped members that tin foil is the only thing that stands between the human brain and the insidious influence of thought-reading aliens, this is brainwashing. For an individual to choose to wear a tin foil hat with the intention of everyone else seeing them wear it and therefore assume they are an especially enlightened person, this is virtue signaling. Thus, both can apply.

Here. Here. Masks don't stop the virus (especially if it is a cloth mask...which are next to useless), but the left stopped looking at the science a long time ago. So brainwashed AND virtue signalling. Both things. Upvoted the comment.

Wear a mask to prevent the spread dummy... of course they don't STOP the virus but can you understand the difference or is that the cause of your stupidity? There is a MASSIVE drop in the number of transmissions when we all WEAR A MASK. Only cowards and uneducated morons would put their own family's at risk.

not stopping the spread...idiot. even the n95 masks are NOT stopping covid. but keep wearing one...keep letting us know how virtuous you are.

Masks stop the spread... 95 masks are the best option in slowing transmission. You are a weak and sad lil boy and I hope your family suffers in learning this FACT. Suffering the loss of your children or parents may be the only way to teach you a lesson. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

back at you
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

mine was PROOF... your link is an opinion... there's your problem right there. Too stupid to argue facts!

ue memes.... sooooo old. Sad lil troll.... tricks are for kids.

I suppose it could be both, but gore is it virtue signaling if you hope everyone was doing it. I’m not trying to be better than anyone.

I could make a better case that not wearing a mask is virtue signaling. I’m doing as recommended. You are making a political point.

In either case it comes down to motive, which can’t be reliably proven.

I didn't intend it as political, just am observation. You do what you feel is right, I don't seek to tell you how to live your own life - as we all should be allowed to do :)

Sorry. The liberals only do things to pretend to be good gets annoying. To a degree sine of the right aiming vitriol. It's always best to give people the benefit of the doubt on motive.

The number of people who think being against the border wall is open borders...a wall is just not the way to go. Drones and increases patrols is likely more effective and would cost less. Not bothering to try and understand the other side or consider that their concerns are honest even if they are wrong is why we can't find middle ground. If you don't know where someone is coming from, how do you meet in the middle?

virtue signaling? wtf? Get a grip kid... Actions speak louder than words. You either wear a mask to protect others... or you're a c**t. Simple math.

Oh that's funny

OMG are we back to it being a hoax again? Good grief, there's no freaking hope for us.

Hope your loved one didn't fall off a ladder.

No, he died of covid you jackass.

No one says covid isn't real, but the mortality rate of 99.98% does not justify worldwide shutdown. Hospitals have been receiving thousands on dollars in incentives for covid diagnosis and even more for people on ventilators - this sort of action increases numbers that media uses to create further panic among gullible. Since previously stating 6%, CDC has now changed that to 5% of all covid deaths actually died of covid, others, had on average 3 underlying conditions, or tested positive (PCR tests produced over 76% false positives) with in 28 days of the accident. Sorry for your loss, but hard to tell what the actual reason was when CDC counts intentional and accidental poisonings as covid deaths.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/croatian-man-who-died-after-falling-from-ladder-was-killed-by-covid-19/

That was in Croatia, not the US. "During the autopsy, doctors found that large swaths of the man’s lungs were blocked. The finding led scientists to conclude that he suffered from acute respiratory distress syndrome" - that is to say he couldn't breathe, got dizzy, and fell of the ladder. Much the same way they would have changed his cause of death if they'd found alcohol or drugs in his system.

The CDC doesn't determine cause of death. States use positive tests for daily numbers and trends and that gets reported up because that is data needed immediately, but actual cause of death is determined by the medical examiner who fill out the death certificate. Those are what make it into final totals. So, you aren't accusing the CDC of lying, you are accusing pretty much every medical examiner or coroner in the US of lying.

Case fatality rate is ~2% (looks like it recently dropped t 1.8% in the US.)

That 99.98 is the mortality rate, which is the % of the population who haven't died of COVID regardless of whether they've caught it. The actual updated number is 99.817% BTW.

We don't use that to determine risk, because it doesn't tell us what happens if you catch it - When we had 30 deaths that was 30 out of 332 million; now its 606,000 out of 332 million.

The other reason for the shutdown is the high number of people who needed respirators and admittance into the ICU with COVID. Flattening the curve was about making sure everyone who needed those had access to one. If we had blown through our medical capacity, the case fatality rate would have gone up as well.

PCR tests - nope.

99.98% is NOT mortality rate, as you state, nor it's "the % of the population who haven't died of COVID regardless of whether they've caught it". It is the survivability rate for those under 65yo.

Just checked CDCs website and they're reporting 589,547 deaths and 33,018,965 cases, which gives us an cumulative mortality rate of 1.785% (this includes the hardest hit demographic of over 65yo).

(age) (cases) (deaths) (survivability)
0-17 3,277,280 400 99.987%
18-49 14,192,434 21,883 99.845%
50-64 5,361,115 70,932 98.676%
65+ 3,584,359 378,577 89.438%

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics
(poisoning being counted in)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

These are all bad flu season numbers, affecting weak and vulnerable with underlying conditions. Nothing to justify shutting down of the entire world. Sars and N1H1 were far more deadly and we all took precautions, but ultimately went on about our business.

You are wrong on the PCR tests. The cycle threshold was brought down by WHO and CDC days before Bidens inauguration. Up to that time, testing was done in excess of 40-55 cycles (Canada was running it up to 60) which produced false positives, since 'live virus' cells don't exist beyond 32 cycles. Beyond 32 cycles, the test finds dead virus cells from other coronavirus' (common cold/influenza) you may have had for up to 18 months ago.

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/who-admits-covid-pcr-test-has-a-problem/

Consider this; both Trump and Giuliani got covid and were out of the hospital in 3 days. They're both in the worst demographic, age-wise, and (whatever you may thing about the vaccines) they were not vaccinated at that time. Either tests were false positive, or this is not as deadly as they're making it out to be.

You're right about one thing. We must put our divisions aside and approach this as ONE human race. We're all being fed one steamy shit sandwich, and until we unite, we're all screwed.

To be clear, I am accusing countries around the world (who share the same "objective") who see covid as their 'last opportunity to achieving their goal'. They will not let up on this 'manufactured pandemic', and will milk it for everything they got.

Survivability rate of those under 65 - that would have been a fun caveat to include previously. Deaths by shooting are super low if you discount the high risk "children in school" category.

H1N1 - had a fatality rate of .03% - though it affected children more than adults
SARS - 9.6% - it was much more deadly, but wasn't as infectious

COVID was as bad as it was with more lockdowns. You should look at what the fatality rate was in Italy when it first hit there and they blew through their hospital capacity. The whole world (give or take) didn't shut down over a prank or a hoax.

if the PCR is giving false positives, that would actually make it look less deadly and like we are closer to herd immunity. If more people test positive and the same number of people die - less deadly.

That wasn't the first adjustment to PCR that WHO issued. This is suspicion, not evidence. Evidence would be some lab running side by side comparisons with old and new guidance to show how much of a difference it made. Accusations are cheap and evidence would be easy to produce. Only doubt is being put out, no actual evidence because...?

Trump and Giuliani - They survived. That is true. They also had access to the best medical staff available and a standard of care above normal. Plus access to an experimental treatment. Their experiences and results aren't representative. Plus if either had died, you know that would have been part of the 'conspiracy'.

Hard to unite with people who think the left are Satan worshiping pedophiles our to destroy America.

I live in Mississippi. We are a red state. We locked down. That decision was made by the Governor. The conspiracy shit only works at high elevations. When you get down the details it would take to convince people to play along, you have to either conclude that most people are in on a plot, or it is real.

So... they can "Make this shit up"? lol... How fake is that? OMG, I had no idea they were feeding something so creatively ignorant to your base... holy shit! You really do believe the lies your shepherds are feeding you don't you? No wonder there's no way to teach you the difference, you're brainwashed. Hope this helps but at this point, I think you're beyond 'help'. https://www.snopes.com/

Fun fact: If you make someone wear a mask and then pour water on it it’s easy waterboarding

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"Leftists" is his only fear... all the "Leftists" are coming to get him. lololol Paranoia is strong in this one. No wonder he falls for all the conspiracy shit... no mind of his own. Republitards have been fed shit, kept in the dark and seem completely oblivious to their fascist ideals. It's like they NEVER learned world history.

Oh boy this guy again. Yay.

You're so incomprehensible no one knows who you or what you are referring to when you vomit on your keyboard.

My damn family died gotta word for that?

So the masks didn't work? Did they have preconditions or live in nursing homes? If so the word would be negligence. I would have paid them to stay home and let everyone else keep working until herd immunity was reached. That's what someone with a working brain would do and not just pretend masks were going to save people.

...they died because c**ts like you DON'T WEAR A MASK, because it's so hard and heavy and restricts you rights to say ignorant shit. I hope your kids suffer... teach you a lesson.

I wore a mask everyday psychopath.

Sometimes I just want to watch certain people burn.

The fact that your using their death to prove your point is why your one of those people

You didn't answer the question. You hate me because I want the truth. Burn yourself loser.

I honestly dont know what to add to this because in this conversation you keep avoiding that you practically know that they DIED from covid and you know that the mask is supposed to help. The mask does reduce the spread and the vaccine will reduce by a even larger amount. When your finally able to get the vaccine I hope you just step offline and do a bit more research about masks

Shut your ass up. Ur a disgrace to Trump supporters.