You dumb

Why? One is an opinion piece by a different author. And wow BTW, that first one is a shit article filled with anecdotes but no actual facts to back its premise.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/04/02/everyone-wore-masks-during-1918-flu-pandemic-they-were-useless/

That's what liberals do. They present opinions as fact, and their opinion is whatever their leaders dictate.

Sometimes maybe. There is a lot of that going around. It is difficult to tell without a control group if masks are or aren't working. I have no dog in this fight. Masks aren't political to me and if the CDC put something out tomorrow saying masks don't work, I'd read up to find out why they thought they did for so long. But science is accepting new data. There is no shame in acting on what you know at the time. I've read studies that said yes and a few that said no. I found the yes to be more numerous abd more credibly. Caution is the better part of valor.

Whatever our leaders dictate... That's why we have a divide over universal healthcare. Why we are arguing about Palestine. Why several reps have called out Biden on the border. You need better media because that just isn't true.

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Yep, take off the go***mn mask and protect the elderly is clearly what that shows and history will show that if the left doesn't put all free thinkers in the gulag and write the history books.

Masks aren't a magic bullet. Especial with people refusing to comply with mask orders. Hard to blame the doctor when people aren't taking their medicine. I can't establish whether your tables are correlation or causation without doing more research than I have time for at the moment. Imma stick with the experts until/unless I have a reason to doubt.

Seriously though, the first article was shit. I'm reading it waiting to find out how they even measured mask effectiveness with 100 year old data. Nada. Disappointing.

https://odysee.com/@PANDA:3b/TimeToReopenSociety:7?fbclid=IwAR3P_ZbqJQF9MBeI-S8SE3WgRzgj2TVeXI8-mPCNXSL85v2a0yiiWaCDQQc

I will not be watching a 30 min video of suspicious providence. Sorry. Too busy. Can you summarize or point me to their sources? I read faster than most people talk and find I am better at digesting the written word.

Summary: The establishment is full of shit
Masks don’t work, lockdowns don’t work

I counter that with the opposite.

What opposite

The establishment is not full of shit, masks do work, lockdowns do work.

Boo. Wake up and THINK.

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What the charts show is that there is no correlation between cases going up or down and when lockdowns are put in place and when mask mandates are put in place

First chart start January this year and ends March 7th

The other 4 charts start March 2020 and end mid September 2020

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They were different people.

Same newspaper

one was an opinion and the other wasn't.

To be fair, the latter one was posted a month before the former one.

Same newspaper

So?

Same editors should be reviewing the article for consistency. Granted, one is an op-ed, but that means it shouldn't necessarily be considered factual (I've read neither, so take that as you will).

As far as I'm concerned, it's simple:

If you're concerned about COVID, there are vaccines available for you and likely you've received them already. If you're not, then you shouldn't be forced to use safety measures you don't want. Just be aware that the buck stops with you healthwise.