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After two prior forensic audits confirmed AZ's election results, the GOP still can't accept they're losers

After two prior forensic audits confirmed AZ's election results, the GOP still can't accept they're losers | ARIZONA GOP'S SHAM AUDIT; EMBRACES Q'ANON'S CLAIMS
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1,030 views 5 upvotes Made by Treaclemier 4 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 4y
Gotta tell ya, ever since you guys turned me on to Q'annon, I haven't used a Q tip. You can't be too safe.
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Why are you so afraid of an actual audit?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
I'm not, which is why I had no problem whatsoever with the two prior recounts made in both Georgia and Arizona after the election by non-partisan and highly trained professional auditors. In each state, both recounts confirmed the original results.

The current recount (now #3) being conducted in Arizona is a total joke and is intended to support the illusion of Trump's big lie about a stolen election. It was precipitated by the GOP party therein, which hired a company out of Florida (Cyber Ninjas) who possess no actual professional experience nor expertise in conducting election audits and whose own CEO (Doug Logan) holds many conspiratorial beliefs - posting on multiple social media sites to "Stop the Steal" and promoting Trump ideological rhetoric - prior to gaining that contract.

It's rather noteworthy that those who volunteered to conduct the recount in Maricopa County were screened based on their political affiliation and that in the first few days of the recount (prior to OAN - a total Trump propagandist "news outlet" reporters being deemed to be the only credible reporters allowed onsite) that reporters from other media outlets noted blue pens were seen to being used by those volunteers while handling the ballots. That's something that's never permitted in actual legitimate audits as machines can easily pick up and spoil a ballot that had either been deliberately or inadvertently marked by such, which is why only red ink pens are normally allowed in au dits.

Another red flag is that all media beyond OAN were ultimately banned from gaining access into the premises and if they wanted to report on the event, they had to do so from outside the arena in the parking lot. And, as far as those UV lights they're currently using to check ballots... it's because Q'Anon supporters spread insane claims for months on end that Trump had actually secretly watermarked ballots in order to catch democrats conducting voter fraud.

Not even AZ's Republican Secretary of State can believe what is currently going on.
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1 up, 4y,
2 replies
It is my belief that you are wrong on a couple issues. First, it's not a recount, it's an audit. Second, oan doesn't have exclusive rights to the audit, they aren't let in, they have to report from the same area as the rest of them. Third, according to the person in charge of ther audit, as soon as the blue pens were noted, they switched to green and red and no one who handled the ballots were allowed pens. The cyber ninjas aren't handling the counting of the ballots, but are doing a "forensic" diagnosis of the machines.

Also, something of note that whoever you get your info from hasn't said, Democrats are allowed inside to monitor the audit, something that Republicans weren't allowed during any of the counting in the questioned counties/states.

My query is, Democrats are hell bent on stopping and stalling the audit, but if there was no fraud, then why? If it's beating a dead horse, then let them beat it. I was asked if this audit proves that there was no fraud, would I accept it and move on. My answer was yes. But when I asked those persons what they would say or do if it proves there was fraud, i got crickets. What's your answer?
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1 up, 4y
Arguing with these Demo-rats is a waste of time. They just believe whatever CNN and the MSM tells them without any question. They don’t care about America, just destroying it. It’s why it’s important to keep fighting them and never relent. This isn’t even about Democrat vs Republican anymore. You don’t have to be a Republican to see what’s really going on.
1 up, 4y
I don't have a problem being challenged with other people's point of views and if they present a valid point I've never previously considered, I'm willing to hear them out. I'm also prepared to tear down their arguments with facts they may be completely ignorant of and/or may not have previously considered themselves.

So lets start with your initial claim this is "not a recount, it's an audit". That statement is a fallacy in itself. What occured post the election in both Georgia and Arizona were in fact LEGAL AUDITS that consisted not only recounting the ballots both by hand but also by machine. Those machines - hardware, software, coding, etc - are highly scrutinized by both independent and governmental technological experts long before they're ever introduced into any election cycle and the specs of such retained by appropriate authorities.

One of biggest erroneous claims Trump, Powell, Wood, Giuliani, Lindell et al have all pushed is that those machines were hacked by foreign entities, flipped votes, sent data overseas, etc. First off, those machines were all air-gapped and at no time whatsover during voting tabulations were they ever connected to the internet, which makes hacking impossible. Secondly, ever single ballot cast on those machines produced a paper receipt and/or paper trail of the voters intentions, which they were able to confirm or deny.

Thirdly, had you ever read any of the court documents Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, Guiliani, et al, presented in court - which were torn to shreds via factual and provable evidence presented by Dominion, Smartmatic, uncorruptible Republican officials and others - you would already know they deliberately invented false assertions for political reasons and is why they've all been recommended for disbarment not only by own state 'law society' but also by those in other states they sought to influence. Interesting how Fox, Newmax, OAN and other right wing "news" outlets never report such.

I despise both liars and corrupt officials no matter what party they subscribe to as they undermine the well being of society at large for their own self serving interests. I would no more defend someone from my preferred political party that I would engage in those corrupt activities myself.
3 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Once upon a time the GOP held principled ethics and a vision. Not anymore.
3 ups, 4y
Yeah, they learned from Democrats that it’s more important to be in power than to be right.
4 ups, 4y,
2 replies
How is having a transparent audit to ensure election integrity and build faith in our electoral process wrong?

The only ones that hate being investigated are the ones that have something to hide.
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
How many times does this need to be investigated?
4 ups, 4y
How many times has it been investigated poorly?
0 ups, 4y
Spoken by someone that obviously failed to follow the transparent audits previously conducted nor ever read any of the GOP's court documents filed in multiple states challenging the election - 64/65 of which they lost - and the court rulings pertaining to such.
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