Police Restraint

One thing's missing, fentanyl.

Wow, these are still photos. How long where they in that position, nine minutes?

Time isn't what the meme is about. The meme is about senior cops who have said this is not policy suggesting that it wasn't common practice. 929 is just the BLM Democrat call to use as a catch phrase to break down proper conversation. We all agreed it was wrong but there are unanswered question and this decision has destroyed Justice by allowing Mob Rule

We all agree? Who is we?

How many police officers have you spoken to in regards with the verdict? None that I have had conversations with, have any issues with a guilty verdict, of a BAD COP. Just a little insight, I coach a team with an INTERNAL AFFAIR DETECTIVE, you know the cops who police the cops. He says he would have testified the same, force was not warranted for 9 minutes.

No one's disputing the 9 minutes. The only thing questioned is the lie from some police members who want to good look for Leftist trouble makers that this technique isn't used when it obviously is. 929 is Leftie talk and lefties don't matter anymore for they cant be trusted to be truthful and are out to start a race war.

I had no idea the words nine minutes would trigger you like it has....nor was I aware that it was A THING.

BAD COPS EXISTS.

Did you grow up in a cop house? I did. I know what a good cop does, and good cops make it to retirement, not prison.

Should be asking how much Fentanyl they have in their bloodstreams. :P

It all depends on if they were screamong, and what they were screaming.

I guess before a junkie slips into a drug induced coma, they scream for their dead mother, and continuously claim they cant breath! I wonder why the medical journals dont have that down as a symptom of a fentanyl overdose?

He was claiming he can't breath when they were trying to get him into the car.

And, who is to say he couldnt? Chauvin?

The point is he was saying that before he was put on the ground.

Yes, so then he was overdosing in the back of the car, then. Still guilty, didnt render aid to an overdosing captive. Which is it?

You mean like calling an ambulance? Which they did?

What Zaklog said. V

Nah. People who die from fentanyl overdose just slip away. Its used to put people under for surgery It doesn't make you "scream for your dead mother", you slip away and you eventually die, quietly.

You are lying to continue the narrative the "woke" terrorists want you to parrot. Congratulation, you are that gang of thug's "bitch"!!! SMHID

Yea, name calling! Check.

Bad cops exist. Btw way, just because i am left of you (extreme) doesnt make me left.

Nah. Your parroting of lies makes you "THEIR" tool. Congratulations. Sharing "THEIR" narrative of what happened, devoid of facts, makes you "THEIR" "bitch"!!!!

You are a SHEEP!!!! Embrace it, or STFU!!!!! SMH

Devoid of facts? You mean the facts that were presented?

this guy was knelt on for 15 minutes by the cops and like George Kirby, he also died of a fentanyl overdose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkCVA3Yu7k

Who is kirby? I am not familiar with that case.

it's Floyd ...he meant so much to Nancy pelosi that she couldn't even be bothered getting his name right ...she called him george Kirby

Nor do I care, or give a shit what some lizard from SanFran thinks.

Oh, didnt hear that one. I dont listen that c**t.

That's funny because his boss testified to the jury that it isn't.

That is funny... that his boss does not know it is common seen, performed and thought all over the world.

Did you testify to that effect at the trial?

No, you didn't testify to that effect at the trial. Do you know why? Because he was an experienced officer and you're not the least bit qualified to comment. So the jury listened to his boss saying that's not something the police are supposed to do.

And that removes the fact that this method is used all over the world how?
It is an inconvenient fact.
One that you might experience yourself if you resist arrest.

What really is not supposed to happen is the 9+min, what is supposed to happen is that the partner gets to you to secure the pinned down person so you can handle them. Look at the pictures up there multiple officers. Not 1 waiting for assisstence.

But isn´t "isn´t supposed" such a nice way to say: "It happens."

You need better cops.

YES, THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF ALL OF THIS: WE NEED BETTER F**KING COPS. THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS TRYING TO BUILD TOWARDS! !!!

Don´t freak out, because someone agrees with you on the goal but not your methods

So how do the police get better if you never convict them for murder when they do it?

1. Neither I nor the OP said not convict them for their wrong doing (this case murder)
2. Even if this whole riots thing did not happen there would have been an investigation about the dead body all you did was dragged it out into the open.
3. Every hurt cop/civilian/criminal (yes this is listed by severity) is follows already "what to do better next time"

The answer is always TRAINING, but what happened last year was you embolden the criminals, showed that they can not handle mass unrest, and demoralize the police.

Counterintuitive to ACAB you have to raise the trust in the cops so that people less often resist.

„Nur der Schwache wappnet sich mit Härte. Wahre Stärke kann sich Toleranz, Verständnis und Güte leisten.“
―Tilly Boesche-Zacharowski

"Only the weak arm themselves with hardness/harshness. True strength can afford tolerance, understanding and kindness."

And what do we see Florida antiriot law... new harshness.

You can't raise trust in police if they keep murdering people and theyre' not getting punished for it. I don't trust ANY system where there's no punitive feedback for misconduct. I wouldn't trust a priest if I knew they could murder people on camera and still not go to jail.

Punish guilty cops and people will stop being angry enough to riot. How about that? If you hate riots so much, how can there be riots over police victims if there aren't any? How about THAT for a strategy?

Tell me how often did punishing reform a criminal?
Tell me how often punishment has taught you nothing but to do the thing you got punished for just more sneakly?

No you don´t want them punished for the betterment because intern investigation run all the time. Cops go to jail. Cops get removed. You usually just don´t get to see it.
And that is what you actually want see them suffer.

Ask yourself if you really want the lynch justice back.

That´s your best foot forward we have wasted our time since you jump all over the place with your arguementation.

....all the time. People come out of prison and never go back all the time. Should we be scrapping jail sentences for murderers in case it would upset them into murdering more????

Yours: ....all the time. People come out of prison and never go back all the time. Should we be scrapping jail sentences for murderers in case it would upset them into murdering more????

Mine: 1. Neither I nor the OP said not convict them for their wrong doing (this case murder)

A cop does not become a better cop since he does not return to duty so any learning experience is lost.

The comment section is shit for argueing since we now have to loop comment. You get closing statement put your best foot forward.

Do you think you can repair the police system by just punishing the cops?

Let me be clear: this cop murdered someone. You don't give that guy a gun and a badge and say "I KNOW you'll do better this time, slugger!"

I feel like this is so brazenly obvious, it is insane that I'm actually giving you examples to illustrate my point. If a plumber covers your entire bathroom in feces and smashes your toilet to pieces, do you hire him back saying "I'll pay you again, but I just want you to learn something out of this"?

But they're not murders. They're unintentional, unfortunate casualties. Just like civilians in wars.

Jury said it was murder.

Which case?

"These people were unarmed."
That's an extremely vague statement.

Cops. Keep. Killing. People. Who. Were. Not. A. Threat.

Doesn't get more specific than that.

Alright

you're right. Cops do kill a lot of people who aren't a threat. So go join the force. See how long you last whenever every time you panic instead of Shooting you do the right thing. You'll end up getting killed or injured. Humans panic. And yeah of course there are bad cops.

Let's say you're scared and doing a dangerous job and have a gun and all of sudden you panic. you're gonna shoot the person you subconsciously feel is causing the panic.

But of course, there are evil cops. But by your f**king logic ALL THE COPS IN THE ENTIRETY OF AMERICA ARE EVILLLLLLLLL

Of course, Cops kill innocents. But you know what else they do? They keep pussies like you and me safe from addicts, rapists, and killers.

You take the gun. And never call 911 again. Because you're discriminating against men who die on a daily basis doing this damn job. Of course, Cops should be punished. But that's not the point. The point is that f**king Liberals are "Defunding police"

Do you know what happens then? They don't get fewer guns. There are just fewer cops. But lets say they do. Then more cops die and you're defenseless.

They need more funding for better f**king training if anything. And for the assholes who commit murder. Lock'em up. But it's not always that simple. For one all the men in that image who were black were unarmed. That makes that an extremely biased image. Plenty of armed men get shot and killed on a daily basis. If i was panicking I'd shoot too. They should know better though. So F**KING PUNISH THEM

But YOU need to SHUT THE F**K UP

Because YOU

are NOT a COP

And YOU do not face LIFE or DEATH situations on a REGULAR basis.

Good men and women die daily on both ends. But you don't care about the assholes killing cops. You care about the cops killing assholes.

Whenever YOU become a cop. Then you'll have room to judge.

Breaking the Constitution is NOT something that I need to shut up about. We ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A POLICE STATE. The Constitution gives due process to EVERYBODY - innocent and guilty - and ALL cops are held to it, every single one. Why do you hate freedom?

I'm sorry did I not just say to punish them? Or did you ignore that so you could say I hate freedom? I'm just saying it's not always as simple as MURDER and ARREST

That's why Manslaughter exists. Which is accidental.

Accidents happen yet you are so f**king unforgiving of those who make mistakes.

Jury said murder.

A lot of the people in that picture were casualties of conflict. A policeman didn't walk up and shoot them in the face.

Still very obviously not self defence.

It's not murder when it's self defense. Which would be the overwhelming majority of police killings.

Again, these people were unarmed. Do you know how many unarmed people I have to shoot to get through my day? F**king zero!

Because there will always be bad people in any organization. No excuse for rioting.

No excuse for extrajudicial executions.

Let's be clear about this: the bad people in this organization are murdering people without trial on the streets. We're not talking about people who clock out an hour early on a Friday or steal pens from the office store cupboard: THERE IS NO ROOM FOR EXTRAJUDICIAL EXECUTIONS IN OUR SYSTEM. THERE SHOULD BE NO TOLERANCE FOR THIS. NO EXCUSES FOR EXTRAJUDICIAL EXECUTIONS.

So? You're not talking about this. You're talking about all cops. You can't pin all his wrongs on every cop. That's called D I S C R I M I N A T I O N (Lmao)

Constitution. ALL POLICE have to give due process. 5th, 6th, and 14th Ammendments apply to ALL POLICE. There are NO police who are special and do not have to follow those rules. That's not discrimination, that's a Constitutional standard.

Didn't say that either. I'm saying not all cops are evil. Prove me wrong.

Police chiefs are political appointees.

They still have to be good at their job. That makes it important when he says cops aren't supposed to do that.

No they aretotally political. They have to tow the Mayors line. Police aresupposed to do that.

That is why appointed police chiefs are predominantly anti gun, whereas elected sheriffs are mostly pro gun freedom.

They both know who butters their bread.

....so now I have you saying that EVEN IF THE MAYOR SAYS they're not supposed to do that, cops should ignore the Mayor - HEAD OF THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT - and do it anyway?

At what point in your world do cops even face any regulation at all if they always have the option of saying "well, THAT guideline was written by someone political"?

They are trained to do it and after the fact the p****** throw them under the bus.

Ok so now they make a rule against it, yes now the police need to obey the rule.

Let's make a rule that if someone resists arrest you just shrugg it off and go home.

You know what rule they've had the whole time? Due process. Suspects should be turning up to court alive, not murdered in the streets.

A peaceful arrest is the beginning of due process.

You will take note that when Chauvan was convicted, he placedhis hands behind his back and allowed the officialtocuff him.

Imagine where we would be had Floyd done that.

Shut up about due process if youagreewithresisting arrest.

You are being intentionally obtuse.

You have to be arrested for a crime in order to get due process.

If you resist arrest you are placing your health and possibly life in jeopardy.

No. There is no exemption in the Constitution to due process if the arrest was not peaceful. It isn't there. It would be way too easy to abuse if it were - just make some stuff up about resisting arrest and then you could just suspend the court system altogether? No. No chance.

The boss is a licking Democrat butt, so he don't get cancelled

That's what the defence said. The jury decided nah, that's murder.

That's what happens when you intimidate a Jury as well as defence witnesses

Then it would have been declared a mistrial. It wasn't. The court verdict stands. Guilty of murder, on camera and in front of a lot of people.

There will be an appeal t have the court verdict quashed and rightfully so because of the threats that took place. You can't have a mob, black or white dictate how a trial should be decided through threats violence.

Who was threatened? The jury? The jury was instructed to not watch news. How did they get threatened, exactly?

You think the jury needed to watch the news to know what would happen if any other verdict had been given???

They knew that shit, as well as the defense and prosecution during JURY SELECTUON. WHY do you think they they selected these JURY MEMBERS?

Oh yes both sides wanted WEAK MINDS on the jury, so they VETTED OUT ALL OF THE STRONG WILLED, EDUCATED prospects. Yea, that's the ticket.

To bad you werent elegible, so you could have stood up to the masses, and DISCOUNT THE FACTS. SMH.

If you think the threat of widespread rioting didn't affect the verdict, then I don't know what to say.

Then dont say anything, and we can agree we disagree.

What do you even know about the jury members? I'm thinking veeeery little.

You dont have to know the jury, You have to HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING that the LAWYER has strategies for his choices of who would make the perfect juror, for their case. So, did the defense f**k up and not vet out loser sheep who will just roll over, as you are suggesting happened?

So, I dont care how much I know of them, nor do I care about your opinion of how much I'd knew of them.

Hillary Clinton can do anything. She's hiding under your bed right now but don't look because that'll REALLY make her mad! !