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It's easy to confuse descriptions of the evil of mankind as a thing from God. God wants us to chose life, freedom, love, mercy | One of the latest attacks on the Truth of the Bible says God promoted slavery and selling daughters. If you never read the Bible you might believe that, but here's what the Bible really says. This doesn't apply to the Euro/African slave trade, but in the past, world slavery was like a credit card. If you couldn't pay your debts you may have sold yourself or been sold into slavery. Your family could be sold to satisfy debt. Many people had their passage to emigrate to the United States paid by indentured servitude- work for a specific period of time then you were free. To this day people are slaves to their debts, huge student loan? You are a Slave to the debt till it's paid. “And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. Exodus 21:7
‘And if one of your brethren who dwells by you becomes poor, and sells himself to you, you shall not compel him to serve as a slave. Leviticus 25:39; And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day. Deuteronomy 5:15; “You shall not give back to his master the slave who has escaped from his master to you.  Deuteronomy 23:15; "...that every man should set free his male and female slave..." Jeremiah 34:9 | image tagged in bible | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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As the Biden Administration moves toward declaring Christians of all races White Supremacists and Domestic Terrorists, I want to use my last few days of freedom before I get charged and sentenced as an Enemy of the State spreading the Truth.
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I thought all the Christ haters on imgflip would try to shred this. Guess some of them still recognize truth. Thanks I wanted to do something like this for a while.
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You're welcome.
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“You shall not give back to his master the slave who has escaped from his master to you. Deuteronomy 23:15
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You have to understand the context surrounding it. The entire nation of Israel had just come out of 400 years of bondage in Egypt. After 400 years of slavery, that was the system they understood best. In the first part of this chapter they are instructed to free a slave after 6 years of service. female slaves were not to be abused, they were to be treated well and if not released. In verse 21:10 it says “If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights." That leads to the question how does a slave have marriage rights? (And then of course what were those marriage rights- but this is only a meme site). God constantly points back to the abuse the Israelites had suffered in Egypt and reminded them not to do that to others.
If you summarize this aspect of the Old Testament it was intended to lay out the expectation, (the 10 Commandments are in Chapter 20), that God requires of mankind to restore mankind's holiness in order to have the relationship with God that was lost in Genesis 3; the impossibility of mankind being able to do it on their own because of the nature of sin ( the definition of sin is simply - falling short, forget all the definitions it has been distorted into); the need for redemption; and the plan for the redemption for all mankind to return to the original relationship we were intended to have with God, which is essentially that God himself would pay the just punishment for sin in the person of Jesus Christ. At least 109 specific prophecies over several thousand years pointed precisely to the first coming of Christ so that this promise would be fulfilled. There are other promises as well, and their fulfillment is coming at an astonishing pace right now.
We have butted heads in the past over a variety of subjects, I want you to understand that regarding this subject, I am not condemning you for anything, we've all fallen short, my hope is that all would accept redemption through Christ. Repent means- turn around. It doesn't mean "be perfect" because that isn't humanly possible. But if we earnestly seek God He will be found. For many of us who have given up contending with God, there is a real and satisfying peace, just like promised.
This is not the best answer I can give, got a migraine. Trying to sleep it off and my phone kept beeping with an alert about your response. How do you turn this damn thing off?
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There is a common practice to stop reading after the point being manipulated has been presented. Women's libbers stopped reading after being to told to submit to their husbands (like we submit to policemen or others with authority). they neglected the part that instructed "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,..."
For example regarding slaves, this is one set of verses used to say God condones abuse of slaves Eph 6:5-9 "Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, ..."
Don't stop there, keep reading-
"And you, masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that your own Master also is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him."
And in Col 4:1
"Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven."
While this may seem unrelated, Marxist/Communists purposefully infiltrated the church to distort Christianity and have been quite successful over the decades since they first invaded seminaries in the 1930's. Slavery, family, wives, law, morality- literally anything they could undermine they have done with the purpose of destroying belief in any other God than communist government.
Maybe you don't realize it, maybe you do, but every argument you use against faith is straight our of the Marxist playbook.
You are free to believe whatever you want, you are free to live as you chose within the laws of the nation as a whole. Why is it so important to destroy what other people chose to believe? Why do you have a superior right to destroy the principles they might chose to live by? Don't tell me the church has been crashing into your house to condemn your behavior. Don't tell me the church denies science. Let me use abortion as the example here- science says that one distinct and precise event marks the beginning of sexually reproduced life life, conception. It doesn't spontaneously occur at some later point in time, conception is the only point at which can and does begin, yet abortionist supporters try to say that a developing human being is merely an unviable cluster of cells. Of course it is at the early stages, that doesn't make it any less alive. Conception doesn't produce an immediate adult human, there is a distinct and known progression into a fully developed human being. It is disingenuous to deny that.
Keep in mind that Marxists and Nazis use the dehumanization of certain cla
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classes of people as a conscience free way to kill whomever they please. Dehumanize a Jew and you can make purses and horse whips out of their skin. Make soap out of their carcasses, exterminate 6 million of them, what are 50 million unfaithful Russians if they are not human? What is the problem with enslaving over 1 million Yugurs in China? They are subhuman, harvest their organs and supply the world with transplant organs for a great profit.
You don't agree with Christianity, but a fundamental Christian precept is to value all life, care for the widow, the orphan, the poor and the stranger among you. Even if some adherents are hypocrites, don't those ideals have some value to society? You don't have to look far to see what happens when Christianity is exterminated. Atheism doesn't promote slavery, or murder, but atheist communists killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Atheist Chinese communists are enslaving over 1 million Yugurs today. The only ones really voicing opposition are Christians (not necessarily Americans). Biden has yet to condemn it. When Gretta Thunberg ripped the world a new one , How dare you!!!!, Trump delivered an address to the same UN meeting condemning religious persecution of all religions world wide. What a racist hater he was.
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The context is what should guide people in the year 4645 from judging you. You apply a 21st century standard to 6000 years ago. Come on, you are much better than that.
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So does Islam. They never came out against it, but you always save your atheist hatred for Christianity don’t you.
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So is atheism
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Since it is simply disbelief it says nothing
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What makes that belief system any better than anyone else’s belief system? It is equally shit to any other set of beliefs that you call shit.
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Oh? atheists have no positions on other issues.
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You are confusing what the culture of the time allowed. God took Israel out of that culture and separated them from that, but the Israelites went back to the ways of the world. Other passages value slaves based on a 7 year calendar, the further it was into the seven years, less was paid to the person and they were to be freed at the end of that term, the 7 year Sabbath rest for people and the land. Every 50 years was to be a Jubilee where all debt and slavery was cancelled. When the Israelites did not comply with God's laws and admonishment, he put them in exile in Babylon until the land and people had it's Sabbath rest for the time they refused to follow God's law. A person could chose to remain a slave if they liked their master, and went through a ceremony and became a bond slave.
Christ spoke of a slave who owed his master the equivalent of $10 million and how he was shown mercy by his master until that slave showed no mercy to slaves who owed him only a little by comparison. This of course symbolized the condition and cost of sin, and the importance of forgiveness and mercy. A slave owing $10 million? Or slaves who were given a talent to use at their discretion while their master was absent? Joseph sold into slavery, which led to saving the beginning of Israel? Your definitions don't apply to the Bible. You don't need to be a Christian to understand this, a plain reading of the text proves your hypothesis is wrong.
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Well said. Too many people believe that Jacob/Israel and the nation of Israel were God's chosen people because they were perfect, but they were all deeply flawed. God clearly says He didn't chose them because they were better than anyone else, but because they were a very small nation. They were used by God to reveal many things, His patience, His mercy, His love, His law and His plans for the future. The Jews were the focus of prophecy and had a very specific role in proving prophecy with the lineage and birth of Christ.
Even now, Israel, the size of the state of New Jersey, and a population of 10-12 million is said to be the sole source of all that is wrong with the world and must be wiped off the face of the earth, followed by the US.. Yet it is ranked as the 8th most powerful military on earth.
End times prophecy says that little old Jerusalem will be the focus of the world, sure was when Trump did what politicians only promised and recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. Remember all the howls that the Middle East would erupt in rage? And how many nations have signed peace agreements with Israel now? Our media doesn't report the scores of nations that have moved their embassies to Jerusalem. They always wanted to , but didn't want to anger the US.
Look at how the party of death is turning against Israel again, just like Obama. Why do they do that? Communism is not compatible with God. Godless China has over a million Uygur muslim slaves today, right now, and the godless half of the US says nothing, except that the US is flawed and must be destroyed for 385,000 Democrats who owned slaves 160 years ago.
Liberals will destroy Christianity over slaves 6,000 years ago in the Bible, but admire China for providing the organ transplant industry with harvested organs taken from Uygur slaves. I could ask, how can anyone be so blind, but we both know that is Satan's specialty.
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Please do. I did a word search of the Bible when I first saw this meme. There are more verses than these which disprove your point. The most important thing is the context.
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Yes. Just because you don't understand it, that doesn't make you right about it.
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Slaves back then and civil war slaves are two different things.
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But it was like a credit card, yo.

This site, I swear.
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You couldn't pay your debt, you went to debtor prison, or you sold yourself into slavery until the debt was paid. Now if you run up student loans, or you are one of the increasingly rare honorable people who pay your bills, you are a slave to the Federal Government (because Obama took over all student loans) until the last penny is paid, or you work long enough for a nonprofit. If you have integrity when you use your credit cards excessively, you aren't working for yourself, you are working for Mastercard. Ironic, master. Card.
Many American slaves earned a minuscule wage that was enough to buy their freedom.
Modern day American sex trade slave, not so lucky.
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Obama took over wha?

I stopped reading there.

See, I graduated from Christianity in 2000, and such ain't cool according to 'Tha Book.'
You are in violation of the following Thou Shalt Nots:
Lie
&
Bear False Witness.

Cuz Yahweh, the terrible tyrant God of the Judeans, don't like it.

Hope your Shabbat went well!
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Yes sir, good luck with your graduate studies.
Look it up, the Obama Administration took over (federalized) the student loan program. Yup, yessirree student loans are under federal purview.
Enjoy your freedom to condemn without cause or consequences. Right. No consequences. Cuz u r ur own god
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Graduate studies, LOL! Doesn't realize how much that "loan" is going to cost him. My wife graduated to indifferent a number of years ago, then started working as an RN for a hospice. During her time there she witnesses around 250 deaths, part of the job, there to keep the patient comfortable if needed, more for support of the family and friends, and to make all the arrangements for death certificates, mortuary call, body removal, etc.
Early on she started to see a pattern. People of faith passed away very peacefully, some not all were greeted by someone familiar, some even having extended conversations before passing. Sure, could attribute that to a final dream or whatever. But the atheists struggled, were agitated, panicked, and any number of other unsettling responses to the finality of dying. the responses were almost universal, believer- in peace, atheist in terror. Granted some people of both persuasions passed peacefully in their sleep (morphine stupor or whatever), but the people that had an "awareness of passing" were pretty consistent.
My wife is highly educated, very analytical, not given to too much emotion, pretty much blunt and fact driven. After seeing this so many times she started reading her Bible daily, started attending church with me and has never been happier. She works in oncology now and has seen the same pattern. People of faith accept death as a natural part of life, they make rational decisions to end treatment and let nature take it's course, tending to enjoy the last few days or weeks of their lives. Some have even miraculously had their cancer disappear, seriously. Secular people fight the whole way down, even to the point of killing themselves with ineffective chemo for just one more day of misery. Chemo can be very nasty stuff.
She has to abide by HIPPA rules, so I she only tells me general information, but we talk about types of cancer, general age of the patient, beliefs, chemo treatment (I've learned which are very nasty but effective, etc). It's been interesting to watch from the sidelines.
Me? I've got several thousand reasons to believe. And if not, at least I won't die in terror. But I know my Redeemer lives.
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I've heard almost identical stories for decades. In the late 60s one of my dad's uncles had open heart surgery, where they split open the ribcage, they do it with a catheter in your femoral artery now. They kept him heavily sedated, but conscious during the surgery and at one point he died on the operating table. The head surgical nurse decided to try massaging his heart, and after a while it started beating again and they brought him back. My Grandpa and his brothers were told what happened in the waiting room, and I happened to be with them all several weeks later when they discussed it. The uncle who died was very Christian, and I'll never forget what he described. He knew he had died, and his spirit separated from his body. He was above himself looking down and watched the medical people try to save his life when a man in white, not medical clothes, standing in a corner spoke to him by name. The man in white said something very specific, "Your time is not yet come, but when it is time, I will come for you."
I've known a few people who had near death experiences over the decades, and each one mentioned that exact phrase. Listening to a guest host on Glen Beck around Christmas, he interviewed a man named Kevin Devries who had a massive heart attack while running. The separation of body and spirit was similar to my uncle, but then Devries said the exact phrase that preceded reentering his body. Sent chills and brought back memories of the stories I've heard. I could talk about experiences I've had that confirm my faith in Christ. It would take a while to tell them all. Yes, our Redeemer lives!
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Whoa! I've had a couple situations where trajectory said I was going to die, but at the last minute a distinct force moved me totally out of the possibilities of physics. Undeniable, very distinct and precise. Never saw the guy in white, but no way I could deny what happened was supernatural. I don't know if we can PM on imgflip, I'll check it out. If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear more.
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One of the latest attacks on the Truth of the Bible says God promoted slavery and selling daughters. If you never read the Bible you might believe that, but here's what the Bible really says. This doesn't apply to the Euro/African slave trade, but in the past, world slavery was like a credit card. If you couldn't pay your debts you may have sold yourself or been sold into slavery. Your family could be sold to satisfy debt. Many people had their passage to emigrate to the United States paid by indentured servitude- work for a specific period of time then you were free. To this day people are slaves to their debts, huge student loan? You are a Slave to the debt till it's paid. “And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. Exodus 21:7 ‘And if one of your brethren who dwells by you becomes poor, and sells himself to you, you shall not compel him to serve as a slave. Leviticus 25:39; And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day. Deuteronomy 5:15; “You shall not give back to his master the slave who has escaped from his master to you. Deuteronomy 23:15; "...that every man should set free his male and female slave..." Jeremiah 34:9