Politics is and always has been more important than human life to the Democrats.

They deny science anytime it conflicts with the narrative. Just like California opening up immediately after Bidens inauguration even though the spread and deaths are worse then the summer supposedly. Hypocrisy is their calling card.

We did not Cali is still in full lockdown you idiot Former President Trump incited an armed coup to disrupt a lawful process but we don't hear you snowflakes and rightards (that was a joke) talk bout that

I live in Cali you idiot and Newsome just came out and eased the restrictions. Where were you? As a matter of fact he was asked if he was easing the lockdown because of the recall effort and he replied of course not. This of course is being eased despite the highest infection and death rate in the country. Why is it ok now? Democrap hypocrisy is evident.

There was no armed coup chicken little. Keep trying to sell the narrative. Some “mostly peaceful” protestors got out of hand and have been arrested. Nothing was disrupted for more than a couple hours chicken little.

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No, Taxifornia is not still in full lockdown, you plain idiot, whiny snowflake. At least not the Corruptifornia I live in. So unless you want to modify your statement, you're just flat out ignorant and wrong. (two common characteristics in plain idiot, whiny snowflakes...)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0h_5GAFQGs
- https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/01/25/newsom-lifts-stay-at-home-orders-across-california-1359910

And if you can't make your inaccurate point about the lockdown without bringing up the Capitol riots, it proves you have no point, because they are two separate things.

All of which ultimately shows that when you try to make any point, all you've got is orangemanbad, which only shows that idiots like you really shouldn't be taken seriously.

SURE WHY THE F*** NOT

There are also doctors who are not recommending their patients take any number of the vaccines as well. In science, you have to have a healthy dose of skepticism when anyone promotes something as a miracle drug or solution to all your problems. It wasn't Hydroxychloroquine that was the problem, it was Trump, who claimed he didn't want to send people into a panic, advertising for a drug that had yet to be proven enough through the proper channels.

The stop on HCQ wasn't because it was dangerous or effective. It was to prevent people from buying it out and keeping the people who actually needed it for treatments in which it was proven effective. Just because Trump happened to be right about it doesn't mean he should've promoted it. Now that there have been tests proving it's benefit; and the drug can be manufactured to treat people with Covid and lupus; it's no longer an issue.

Oversimplifying the issue like this is completely reckless and disingenuous.

The facts are these. The FDA shut "off label" usage of HCQ. Not because of any alleged rush on the drug but because Trump mentioned it. There were doctors who prescribed it for HCQ who lost their practices because of that.

There was a real push to keep people from using HCQ to treat COVID. Facebook put a "fact" check on every comment I made about HCQ telling me that my post was considered dangerous. The "fact" check said that there was no evidence that HCQ helped COVID.

So after going almost a year with nothing but negativity all of the sudden, now that Biden is our fake president, HCQ is now beneficial.

It is just that simple. Democrats lied and people died. The left is a death cult. Life simply has no value.

HCQ was never dangerous. It is available over the counter in many countries. It has been on the market for 75 years. There virtually no side effects. But most importantly it works in reducing the symptoms and the duration of infection in over 75% of everyone who used it.

This knowledge that HCQ works for COVID patients has been known since the beginning.

You're right, it has been known that HCQ was a POSSIBLE solution since the beginning. However, for a time; claims of it's usefulness had been exaggerated or were from dubious sources. After trials proved otherwise; some patients were allowed to use it as far back as July of 2020. Before Biden took office. Making the above claim further ridiculous.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

Yet, in July they were allowing patients use of HCQ for treatment of Covid for certain circumstances. Even now it's still not a catch all solution for every circumstance which had been wrongfully reported by many sources including the President.

Those dubious sources were doctors who used to treat patients. They weren't from sources like Bill Gates who are not doctors or Dr. Fauci who hasn't worked with patients in decades and is just a liberal political hack. These were from doctors who actually treated patients and saw results.

https://rumble.com/vd65qr-front-line-doctor-exposes-lies-about-vaccine-and-covid.html
https://rumble.com/valsw5-see-what-this-doctor-has-to-say-about-hydroxychloroquine.html
https://rumble.com/vb8k97-a-texas-doctor-speaks-out-about-hcq.html
https://rumble.com/vbubyt-the-charlie-kirk-show-9-doctors-speak-out.html

I know when a liberal sees anything from Rumble they automatically think "conservative propaganda" and they discredit it. Here are the facts. All alternative social media sites started ONLY has competition to the big guys. They weren't necessarily created by conservatives. MeWe was started by a liberal Democrat.

So what happened when the big guys started censoring conservatives? They ran to the alternative sites. Rumble is just one of those sites. And the reason why I got those videos from Rumble and not YouTube is because I wanted to make sure A) they hadn't been taken down and B) that they won't be taken down. It has been my experience that they still would be on YouTube but others have talked about YouTube taking videos down so I just wanted to make sure.

These videos are from actual doctors who used HCQ with other medicines and saw that in most cases it worked. It is also about the troubles they have had because the prescribed HCQ from pharmacists, hospital administrators and other assorted liberals who put politics over people's lives.

BTW. I long ago gave up trusting government organizations. They have all been corrupted by politics. That does not mean that the FDA is wrong about HCQ but it also does not mean that they aren't jaded by political directives. Governments (all governments) are only good a three things, stealing, killing and enslaving. The FDA does not fit any of those categories with the possible exception of killing but I am not even implying that is what they are doing. I am just saying that any government agency that does not steal (IRS), kill (the State and Defense Dept, Hillary Clinton) or enslave (the IRS, Congress and the Democrat Party) does not have the motivation to be successful at what they do. This is why when the private sector performs the same or similar service it is always more effective and less costly.

The dubious sources were doctors who falsely claimed it was 100% effective in preventing further illness and death when it came to Covid despite the outcome of those reports not lining up with that.

You don’t need to work with patients to be without fault and error as indicated by the initial study that pointed the way for HCQ to be a hot topic of debate.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32205204/

What people failed to realize what the study’s results were partially in error and many exaggerated the drugs effectiveness. It needed more testing before those results could be more conclusive and by July of 2020, the FDA lifted the hold on the use HCQ to patients that met the criteria for treatment.

So, I’d say a doctor still claiming HCQ was effective in December as old news. Unless he was advocating everyone have access and to the drug.

I frankly couldn’t care less of your source unless it reports something wrong. And it doesn’t even back your argument or deflate mine. Which is this: They didn’t want people hoarding it like toilet paper.

Your mistrust in the government is meaningless to the argument.

None of those doctors ever made such a claim. They said it was between 75% and 85% effective in treating COVID. Not a single one ever said it was 100% effective. The doctors in the videos I posted said they saw success in most of their patients but they never said it was 100%.

My mistrust in the government is meaningless to you. I don't trust anything the federal government says these days. They do not use real science. Their scientists are given the conclusions before the research is performed. And their research is to make their "science" fit the conclusion.

No, they didn't. But people in conservative circles certainly did as a potential quick fix alternative to shutting down the economy and weakening Trump's core reason for re-election. A typical President, Republican or otherwise, would've had enough sense to not pedal the drug as a miracle cure, but we didn't have a typical President.

You don't trust anything the federal government says "these days?" A perfect segway, I think, why the FDA precisely put the restriction on HCQ in the first place. You had people "those days" who did trust certain people in the federal government over doctors and experts. Spreading information that had yet to be tested in trials.

"Their scientists are given conclusions before the research is performed"

Again, why there was a hold put on HCQ. Research was needed.

Except, if their conclusion was that HCQ was dangerous, which no one said it was, it would still be unavailable and considered dangerous now.

Your point is thoroughly debunked. Unless you have something else?

Shutting down the economy for a virus that 99% of the people recover from is not just excessive it is idiotic. It is suicide. It is the World Economic Forum's Great Reset.

The Dems did it specifically to hurt Trump's economy but it backfired on them. Conservatives saw right through that. Red states remained open and, up until the Grinch who stole the election was installed as your president. The Great Reset is on its way.

HCQ has been available and approved by the FDA for 75 years. The FDA already knew everything they needed to know about HCQ. Restricting it because they needed to do more research was just an excuse to restrict it.

They already know that HCQ is harmless to the person taking the drug. If they felt like wasting taxpayer dollars on yet another research into something they already know about they didn't have to lock it down.

The only reason why they "had to do more research" is because of the Trump haters in the government commanded them to and for no other reason.

Why would you try to restrict a drug that is openly prescribed for rheumatoid arthritis and has been shown to have no or very little side effects? This is why I don't trust the government. Everything is about politics and this time it was all about making Trump look as bad as possible. Meanwhile people suffered unnecessarily.

99% of the people haven’t recovered from the virus.

That is a lie.

They also did not know how people would react to HCQ.

In science you theorize, test, and prove. There could be a number of variables that made HCQ ineffective or worse. That is why they needed trials.

Sending the market into a panic over a potential miracle cure was antithetical to getting out to the people on time.

I already said they restricted the drug for prescribed use for what it was suppose to be treating so those who needed it could still get it.

You apparently do believe some of what some of the people in government say or otherwise we wouldn’t be having much of a conversation would we?

After all. I could easily dismiss everything you’ve presented as a lie because I don’t “trust” your sources.

But I’m not.

You are.

I may be wrong on the percentage but I'm not off my much. Even if it's as low as 95% then it's obscene to lock the country down.

Our lives should have not changed in the slightest. No mask wearing and no closed businesses.

So they needed to do more research? Fine. But why limit the drug that they've known, for 75 years, that will not harm you?

It could have possibly saved lives.

This is dumb. stop acting like you know stuff