Imagine if the politics stream were a rational place

I enjoy conversations where we can all agree that elections should be audited and then recounted by hand in public to verify that the results are accurate and that nobody was trying to commit fraud.
Apparently that expectation disappeared the moment the news declared that Trump was out..
Unfortunate but here we are..

The moment that machine was checked and found that 6000 votes were swapped from Trump to Biden, that was the evidence necessary that, at the absolute least, the ballots should be counted by hand because the machines may be giving out false readings
The fact that Elizabeth Warren sent dominion a letter telling them their machines did that was the cherry on the cake. However according to liberals we don't need to check any more machines or count any by hand.

The moment the sworn testimonies came in saying unchecked ballots were being counted, ballots were apparently being run through machines multiple times and boxes of ballots from an undetermined origin were being brought in through the back door via an out-of-state biden van, was ample justification to do at least a partial audit to check if that was true
It could all be a big misunderstanding, lies or it could be legitimate fraud that switched elections at state or presidential levels, but we're not going to know because the side accused of fraud is refusing to show us.

This is not a case of differing opinions, this is one side saying that we should check any/all states to prove authenticity and another side saying no.

Why are the Democrats fighting so hard against recounts and audits then? You know that, right? Or are you so delusional you’re unaware of even that?

you may have misread my comment

They’re doing pretty much exactly that in GA out of an abundance of caution.

In other states, Trump is entitled to every recount that... well, that he’s entitled to under the laws of each state. He could get one in WI. I believe he is just outside the margin in PA.

Historically, recounts can move the total by a few hundred votes (which was significant in the razor-thin race in FL in 2000), but not by the amount Trump would need to flip any state in 2020.

Election integrity is important. But also, recounts are expensive and time-consuming and not really worthwhile unless the race is close enough. Every state strikes its own balance when crafting its election laws.

Trump can’t unilaterally ask for a recount in every precinct of the country because his personal lawyer got up in front of Four Seasons Landscaping and stomped his feet.

A recount IN ONE COUNTY in Georgia moved the votes 800+ for Trump. What if we did the whole state?

Cease your lies, you stupid little bitch.

and a machine moved 6000 votes to Biden....and it flipped a state election ...and there's literally 100's of them being used...over 40+ counties...spanning nearly 30 states... and this is just one of the issues presented...

but 20 years ago 1 state was recounted and it didn't make a big change to that election so....welp, guess its ok then .../s

800 more votes for Trump is a lot. But it’s no 14,000.

[This appears to have been from sheer incompetence; I guarantee there’s no Democratic machine conspiracy operating out of Floyd County]

Anywho: it may surprise you to learn they *are* recounting the whole state of GA!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/17/politics/georgia-recount/index.html

Recount expected to finish today

I wonder what the result will be?

Got it. You're so stupid I have to remind you of your own words from one hour ago.

"recounts can move the total by a few hundred votes"

And the recount of ONE COUNTY shifted the votes over 800 for President Trump.

YOU WERE WRONG, BITCH.

Lol! I ready knew about that county before you ever commented. That story came out a few days ago.

It seems one GA county made a pretty large error; you appear to be operating under the assumption that all counties made a similar error, however, I’ve seen no evidence that any other counties have made errors on that scale.

You would need many more of those kinds of errors to reach the 14,000 or so votes that Trump needs to flip the state.

And even if Trump pulled that off through an unprecedented set of errors by Georgia counties, GA’s just one state.

This isn’t a 2000 situation where FL determined the whole election.

Georgia has already found three countries that failed to properly count the votes when recounting, and almost had one give a wrong number when recounting.

And yes, Hunter Biden is a corrupt crackhead.

Used to have a drug problem; no evidence he’s corrupt.

If he ever benefitted from who his daddy was, Trump’s kids are guilty of that 100x over.

Do we ever hear about the Trump dynasty’s nepotism and self-dealing from Righties? Nope.

There's abundant evidence he's corrupt. He explicitly said he was selling access/influence to his dad. And cutting his dad in on 10% - or greater.

The crack pipe pics were recent.

And that's long before we get to even things like Hunter following daddy's thing for underaged girls. If Trump had been evidenced in that, the #metoo crowd would have exploded. But Dems get the pass.

Speaking again as a former one.

Okay so you landed on this one today

Ah yes: that “laptop from hell” that no prosecutor in the country including Barr’s DOJ is touching with a 20 ft. pole.

Perhaps because its origins were so damn suspicious (i.e. Trump’s personal attorney) and the revelations so perfectly timed to land in October?

Seriously: put two and two together folks, and if you can’t, let this article help you:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insideover.com/politics/the-irrelevance-of-hunter-bidens-laptop-from-hell.html/amp/

Tl;dr — this was just another Giuliani-sponsored con-job, just like the voter fraud fraud.

I swear the politics stream is just an echo chamber of the latest ramblings of this profoundly unhinged man

Sure. Just like Wiener's stuff. FBI gets it, it disappears like the Covenant Ark in Raiders.

Comical to think that huge volume of indicting data was just a bunch of creative typing and endless photoshopping. I'll stick with Occam's Razor here.

Is "unhinged" seriously your best answer? K.

Best hope it's not being saved

If it's all fake, why is he not suing Giuliani for slander? I mean, that would be a slam-dunk case right there, public figure or not.

Plus this: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/how-fake-persona-laid-groundwork-hunter-biden-conspiracy-deluge-n1245387

"Do we ever hear about the Trump dynasty’s nepotism and self-dealing from Righties?'

What he did before he came into government is entirely his business. What he has done in government? He has his idiot Jewish son-in-law giving him shitty advice. But I'm not aware of anything like, for instance, the useless Hunter Biden being put on the board of a Ukrainian energy company so his daddy will get the investigators to back off of their corruption---which we have video of Joe Biden boasting about.

No, I’m talking about how Trump and his kids both have profiteered from daddy being President.

Not divesting control of his businesses at the outset; self-dealing, “special” business opportunities, gritting off the taxpayer dime, withholding taxes to the fullest extent, you name it: It comes their way and they don’t say no.

The fact Trump forewent his presidential salary seems to have thrown all his supporters off the trail, but there are 100,000 other ways to make a dime when you are a billionaire who controls the Presidency.

The guy freed Blago, for God’s sake. B L A G O.
The poster child of a corrupt Democrat. Haha. The idea Trump was ever genuinely interested in prosecuting corruption in government, Democratic or otherwise, went out the window at that point.

Trump’s always wielded whatever power he has to persecute political enemies who stand up to him and help friends willing to kiss the ring. Nothing more, nothing less.

These 11th-hour, post-election purges of any officials he deems disloyal underscores all of that.

The Trump Administration’s corruption can be seen from outer space.

A few sources:

https://www.republicreport.org/2020/ten-reasons-trump-is-the-most-corrupt-president-in-u-s-history/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/29/how-trumps-epic-corruption-reveals-hidden-weaknesses-system/%3foutputType=amp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/16/trump-promised-to-drain-swamp-self-dealing/?arc404=true

No, you’re saying Biden is clean? F—k you on this subject. I do not have to listen to a single thing a lying shit like you says about corruption after that.

If you’re not prepared to defend the Trump Administration’s massive abuses of power, then yes, I suppose this conversation is over.

Why you have to do AOC and Bernie like that man?

I don't think anything is "the real racism". I don't think racism is a real moral category. I think hatred is a real moral category. I think the hatred that absolute scum such as yourself incite against white people is a real problem, but I don't think it's "the real racism" anymore than I think that a unicorn a five year old boy tells me about is "the real unicorn."

Okay, but that stance places you at odds with the dictionary.

Well, here's a crazy thought: Maybe I think for myself and don't have an inflexible, authoritarian epistemology, as you appear to.

Oh noes! I'm at odds with the dictionary! Oh, the pain! The horror! Dictionaries are written by men. Those men can be wrong.