Happy Columbus Day!

yeah yeah forget about what he did to the people who already lives there

He discovered the Caribbean. He never set foot anywhere in what is today the United States.

He sailed into the unknown to see what was there. He was a great man and deserves respect. He was certainly a better man than you with More guts and gumption than you could muster on your best day.

I didn't know great men enslaved and committed genocide

Yes, actually many did. What race are you and I’ll give you an example of someone in your history that did things in ancient times you would be ashamed of. Doesn’t mean they weren’t great, just means they were flawed as all men are.

Columbus did not commit genocide anymore than you did. That’s a lie perpetrated by leftists a simple study of that question will find that it is untrue except in leftist SJW journals but historians reject that by and large as an u truth.

"they do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron …They would make fine servants … With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.” he wrote that down in his journals, and then enslaved the indigenous peoples. At first the people that lived in the Caribbean were fine, but then they came along and took over.

Colonization wasn’t pretty but was normal for the time in which it occurred. That’s a far cry from genocide. He did not advocate genocide in any way.

"He was a great man and deserves respect".

Wow, opened a can of worms with that comment.

You don't know me. You know NOTHING of me, my accomplishments, my abilities. That was one of the most ignorant ass comments I've ever seen, even here!

You're a little snowflake, triggered and melting over a negative comment about a man who died 500yrs ago.

I don’t need or want to know you. You are an angry little leftist commie. So what. Nothing you did compares to what he did getting on ships and sailing to the unknown. The only comparison would be the moon missions. I’ll say it again Christopher Columbus was a great man and deserves respect. YAY for Columbus Day!

Have your party. Every year there will be fewer and fewer attending.

Haha no one does much on Columbus Day Except a few parades for Americans of Italian ancestry. How come that group has to get rid of one of their their historical heroes? I guess that aren’t a minority right.

Fair enough. He discovered the intercontinental trade route with the Caribbean. Still nothing to do with us.

He discovered what was a new world at the time. Totally unknown to the Asian, European and African Civilizations up to that time. With the likely exception of the norsemen in northern North America, but their settlements did not survive.

There was also a Bristol shipping company in England that knew there was something out there due west just about before Columbus was born, and a Mali king had told a Portugese diplomat that some tribes in Africa were canoing out west and trading with SOMEBODY because they were coming back with weird goods. Nobody cared back then, but it wasn't totally unknown.

But that's not even the part that destroys the OP! What rips it all apart is, for the purposes of intercontinental commerce with Europe, the man who discovered our soil and opened up trade with it wasn't Christopher Columbus - it was a man, also Italian although he was comissioned under Britain at the time, named John Cabot. And the reason we don't have a statue of HIM in all the city squares across the country is literally because of his British connections: after the American Revolution and our war for independence, it was deemed by the new powers that be that we wouldn't worship Cabot as a hero because we were done associating with the British - we'd worship Columbus instead.

Did I make that clear? Christopher Columbus was the rewrite of history. Columbus Day IS the rewrite of history. Those statues ARE the historical revisionism for political purposes.

Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. John Cabot’s expedition was in 1497 5 years later. Columbus was the first to do it. Cabot’s expedition was largely provoked by Columbus’ success and the tales of resources and precious metals found. Cabot, Pizzarro, Magellan, de Gama all came after Columbus. His voyage stimulated the others, but he was the first to prove the rumors you infer people knew about. Those rumors were tantamount to tales of dragons until Columbus did it. You can use your SJW bulkshit revisionist history all you want but that’s the facts jack.

Did I make that clear? Christopher Columbus was the first explorer of the New World. Columbus Day is a National Holiday as it should be to honor a courageous man. The statues are to remind of of that courage and the results of it. Your revisionist history is poppycock.

It's not called Columbus day anymore.

Yes it is. It’s on my Calendar as Columbus Day. It will always be Columbus Day. Indigenous people can get their own day. Not gonna take Columbus Day because some pussy SJW says so. That day is already taken.

You can live that way for now but eventually the young will decide what the day is called, with or without any input from you or I.

He thought he reached the Indies. That's why he called the people Indian's. He died not knowing he was on an unknown, (to Europe) continent.

There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the significance of deeds done by people long since dead. There is something wrong when this acknowledgement comes so emphatically with negative implications so completely disallowed. Very much like the difference between being a patriot and being a nationalist. The former see's the negatives and strives for improvement. The latter refuses to see any negatives, tries to drown the negatives out and blindly follows to ruin.

Have you no faith in America?
Do you think America is so fragile no negative comments or acknowledgment can be given?
Just how weak do you think America is?

Columbus got on a ship and sailed into the unknown. Comparable to the moon misssions so he gets a day. Too bad if you don’t like it.

I don't really care. Only question that I have is, what do you have against indigenous people?

Nothing, they can have their day just not on Columbus Day. Why does it have to be either or?

Why not on that day?

What better day to acknowledge native people of the land than the day marked by the discovery by Europeans? You can walk and chew gum at the same time. If anything, it cements/commemorates the landing in the new world even more than by itself.

Howard Zinn history major

Which part of what I said isn't true? When was the last time you saw a statue of John Cabot, anywhere in any part of wherever you live? That's how you can tell it isn't about who discovered our land for purposes of European intercontinental commerce and it never was.