Mask Exemption

But they do have the virus anyway

If masks made any difference, the homeless would have been wiped out. They weren't.

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No, they don't, but they severely decrease the chances of getting one

Freedom!

How so? Aren’t they also mandated for our own safety?

Yes, but a lot of people are at the point where covid is enough to push them over the edge

Oh, so you’re OK with grown adults and free citizens of the United States not being able to make their own decisions . . . Except for wearing face masks. Got it.

Exactly. Next thing you know, people will start wearing seatbelts and not smoking in front of people with asthma. It's ridiculous

Yeah sure. I'm just going to put people at risk for my own personal comfort. I have achieved karen status

Only N95 respirators will stop viruses.

No mask will stop every single virus, but every mask will decrease your chances of catching it

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/comparison-mask-standards-rating-effectiveness/

Literally says in the website

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Wow, you should tell everyone in healthcare that those masks they wear don’t do anything. Amazing how all those people have been wearing masks in ignorance. 🙄

Just stop it already. We both know what the analogy is about. Stop playing dumb.

“Are you drunk...?“
No but apparently you are.

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“Who the hell said anything even remotely like that...?”
You did

“Your analogy...that people in operating rooms where masks to protect patients, so therefore everyone should do the same...is FALLACIOUS.”
It’s only “fallacious” to you because you don’t have a counter argument. You keep insisting that wearing a mask is to protect you, not others.

What’s fallacious is your counter argument that, since people in public don’t have gaping wounds, theres no need for others to wear masks. That’s a bad argument and makes no sense.

I hope you sober up and start using your brain again.

I’m in healthcare moron. When taking care of COVID patients we wear N95s.

You’re in healthcare and you are a moron? That too bad.

Your meme sys “face masks don’t do anything.” And yet people in healthcare have been wearing non-N95 masks long before COVID-19. I know you’re specifying “airborne precautions” but you shouldn’t use such a broad brush statement. As a healthcare professional, you should know that pathogens travel in droplets. These droplets are large enough to be blocked by surgical cloth masks. Do they block 100%? No, but they’re better than nothing, which is the point of wearing non-N95 masks.

BTW, I’m married to a physician so yes, I know a little about healthcare too.

Airborne and droplet precautions are two different things. But you should know this. Plus both precautions require wearing gloves. Wearing a mask without gloves is pointless. Again Covid is airborne not droplet. We don’t wear masks to protect the patient they are already sick. We don’t isolate healthy people for the same reason we dominated put innocent people in jail. There’s no reason to deny people their freedom. Freedom is more important than anything or anyone. But people like you can’t understand that simple concept. Our founding fathers believed in give me liberty or give me death. Those were wise and brave men. No we have cowards demanding protection instead of freedom.

The CDC has retracted it’s
If masks do don’t do anything, as you say, and covid is airborne and, thus, immune to face masks then why hasn’t the CDC retracted it’s call for all Americans to wear masks?
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html

“The virus that causes COVID-19 is spreading very easily and sustainably between people. Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggests that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious. In general, the more closely a person interacts with others and the longer that interaction, the higher the risk of COVID-19 spread.”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

If both precautions “require wearing gloves”, why does washing your hands work?

“We don’t wear masks to protect the patient they are already sick”
Then why do you wear a mask? Could it be to protect yourself from each other? Gee, just like we’re advised to do in public.

If both precautions “require wearing gloves”, why does washing your hands work?

Nobody is calling to “isolate healthy people”. We are free to go out in public all we want.

Even though covid can be airborne it’s not exclusively airborne.

If “Freedom is more important than anything or anyone” then why do you obey traffic laws, wear a seat belt or helmet, etc? Why can hospitals restrict visitors? Freedom carries responsibility - both for ourselves and each other.

The 1st sentence got cut off.
The CDC retracted its statement about the virus being airborne.

Funny how you blatantly lie about me, claiming that I’m lying about you. Maybe you should be posting with your fellow two-faced liars in politicsToo.

In every case you fail to explain why multiple health authorities encourage face masks to prevent the spread of covid. If it’s because of some tyrannical motivation, what do these authorities gain from it?

You must have a short memory. Remember when hospitals were overrun by covid patients and there was a shortage of ICU beds? Did it ever occur to you that the precautions we took caused the rate of spread to go down - Down enough that businesses could start opening again? I know you‘ll claim that face masks don't have anything to do with it, but facts don’t support your theory.

If wearing face masks means more businesses can open and stay opened, that means we have more freedoms, not less. But if enough idiots like you go around refusing to take an ounce of responsibility because your “freedom” is more important, then the spread will increase again and businesses will be forced to close again. Is this the “freedom” you want? It sounds like you may be encouraging people to not wear masks so the economy will decline more and, thus, help Biden/Harris win the election. This is why you sound like a liberal rather than a conservative.

I’m all for freedom but I’m also for personal responsibility. Without it, our freedom diminishes.

Just so you know, I don’t read your multiple long replies to the same comment. Maybe it’s therapeutic for you to talk out your emotions with yourself. If so, great, keep it up.

Look, I don’t like wearing masks anymore than you do. The difference between us is I’m not defiant trying to get validation of my emotional bias from others. I have to admit. I’ve been toying with you because you react so well. Sorry for using you for my own amusement, but your unhinged reactions aren’t just too fun not to trigger.

Hope you haven’t lost too much sleep at night writing your multiple essay replies. It’s obvious that anything Presented to you that doesn’t fit your personal bias is too much for you to handle.

Looking forward to seeing how many replies this comment triggers. I’m upping my bet to at least five this time.

Maybe you could just do a couple more replies with a screen full of “Blah blah blah”. It will convey the same message as your other rants and someone other than you might actually read it 🤣

They're not afraid of getting sick. They're afraid of spreading it to someone vulnerable.

But then the people who visit them will have covid and give it to them

Yep, it just takes a real toll on your mental health, given that you are shut in your house for months

Yes. everyone who doesn't have your opinion is stupid because.......why, exactly?

You do not have the right to call me dear. now, back to the debate. Also, when did i say that? You are trying to impose your opinion on everyone by telling them not to wear masks. We are both equally bad. So, how about we just call it a day and go home?

and wear the facemark to reduce that risk

Reply to the red comment above: If i could reply to your comments directly, i would. Also, I'm not in America or of american nationality. Also, I literally called it a day several comments ago and you only agreed just now. Also, Agree to disagree, deal?

Yes, Autocorrect is annoying. You can tell people have run out of arguments when they are just nitpicking over the opponent's grammar

Well, only relations have the right to call me dear, not some creepy dude i found on the internet. I don't even know you

. It's really not that hard to wear one. So why are people against them?

Because they don’t stop airborne diseases. The CDC announced COVID is airborne.

The CDC also says
“Everyone should wear a mask in public settings and when around people who don’t live in your household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.“

Since you’re in denial about the effectiveness of face masks, check out the video in the article.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800?cookieSet=1

So, when you’re argument is debunked, you’re only response if “you’re a liar”?

If you actually read the article and watched the video, your question of “HOW effective” would be answered. But you don’t want and answer, do you. You just want to keep repeating your mantra trying to justify your refusal to comply.

But hey, sticking your head in the sand will at least keep you from spreading any viruses so keep it up. 😆

“You're a liar because you've purposely accused me of things that aren't true...like me being "in denial about the effectiveness of face masks."

Oh, so you’ve changed your argument and now believe that masks are effective enough to warrant wearing them? If not then you ARE in denial and I’m not lying.

And when I present evidence showing that they really are effective, you stick your head in the sand and refuse to even look at it. Why are you so afraid of having your question answered? Is it because you don’t want an answer and you’d rather bask in your blissful ignorance? That’s what it sound like.

nah I meant that more like as astonishment

Wearing a mask protects others from you more than it protects you from others.

For red comment above: ?????????

I see why you’re so ignorant about why we should wears face masks. Your have terrible reading comprehension.

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Again, For your reading comprehension disability.

But according to you, the only reason to wear a mask is to protect yourself from others.

Let’s break it down for you since you’re struggling with the concept.
1. You may be contagious even though you don’t have any symptoms.
2. When you talk, sneeze, cough or just breathe, the virus spreads to others.
3. Wearing a mask reduces the chances of you spreading the virus to others.
4. Others who wear a mask reduce the chances of spreading the virus to you.
5. Wearing a mask to protect yourself from others is like surgeons wearing a mask to protect themself from patients.

Your arguments refuted.
“I should not have to wear a mask if I’m not sick” See #1
“If you’re worried about getting covid, wear a mask but don’t mandate that I do” See #1, 2, 3, 5
“Wearing a mask is unnecessary or ineffective” See #4 plus all the advice pathologists that refute your claim.

Usually only leftists get this triggered. But I guess you’re just like them . . . arguing based on false assumptions.

BTW. You’re the only one paying attention to any of your multi page rants. But if it makes you feel better, have fun.

calling timber, imgflip's Karen a leftist? Damn

You say that as if science hasn't proven that masks help prevent the spread of covid

Well, this should contain the details: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

This is a reply to the comment above the comment above this one. Mental illness can lead people to become psychopaths or commit suicide. Also, you are the one who is literally saying masks don't help. If anyone here is an anti science conspiracy theorist, it is you. How many times do masks need to be scientifically proven to help for you to finally grasp this revolutionary idea

Wearing a mask (even a DIY one) will seriously decrease your chances of getting covid

Again, not reply to the above comment, but the one above that. link that gives you exact details on the filtration rates of the different masks:https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/comparison-mask-standards-rating-effectiveness/

Also, masks have been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to decrease the chances of getting covid as well as transmitting it. You say i should mitigate the risk wherever i can. Why do you think i wear a mask? All the scientists and doctors who know what they are talking about know that masks decrease your chance of getting it. Are you a doctor or a virologist, or just someone who is ignoring the evidence put in front of them because they can't be bothered to wear a face mask?

Yes, they help. they don't prevent. just look at the link that i have been posting to you. It gives you what you have been craving for this whole time: how much they help

Again, are you going to ignore the info of doctors and virologists, most who have a PHD in the field, just for your personal preferences on wearing masks?

Wow, an unlabeled bar graph. Sooooo convincing.

You’re behaving like an unhinged idiot, arguing against face masks because you don’t like it.

And you’re accusing ME of false analogies?

Face it, you have no argument and you’re whining about face mask mandates because you don’t give a rat’s tail about others. You’re being self-centered and childish.

Once again. The operating room analogy is because you seem to think that the purpose of wearing a mask is to protect yourself from others. When you manage to get past that false notion, please come back and continue the debate.

for timber1972. hmmmmmmmm