That flag would be offensive to anybody who immigrated here from Poland or any other former oppressive USSR state. Some might consider people who fly that flag in this country to be domestic enemies of the constitution.

I find it to be offensive and traitorous and yes enemies of this country can be domestic. If you fly this flag you are a traitor. There is no argument you can make to justify it. You can claim your rights to free speech as you spit on the very same rights but that doesn’t change that you are a traitor.

Exactly.

I would consider them domestic enemies, just as if they were to fly a Nazi flag.

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Commie scum that should be treated as enemies. Soviet Union was worse than the CSA and NOTHING about it was American, any way you cut it.

Exscuse me, Im Pretty sure The CSA killed Americans and actually threatened freedom for ALL men unlike the Soviets.

Soviets killed Americans in the form of shooting down some planes. Also the CSA were Americans too, so is the Union just as terrible for killing Americans? Read any history book, both sides are Americans, that's why the civil war killed the most Americans of any war, because it did it at twice the pace. Well, let's be honest, the CSA only threatened freedom for blacks. Still not good, but it didn't threaten freedom for all men. Communism on the other hand is by nature bent on global domination, it's part of the Communist manifesto, and it eradicates the freedom of every man, white, black, asian, etc, because you are now under total control of the state.
Oh and the Soviets killed tens of millions of their own via starvation, etc.

These Liberals say how Fascism is worse because the Communists want to unite the world while the fascists wanted to rule their own type

Both were bad, but one was hellbent on global domination

True, and it's kind of interesting (I've been watching a lot of stuff on Nazism, Hitler, etc.) Hitler probably would've been just fine leaving Britain alone if Britain hadn't blockaded Germany (not that Britain didn't have good reasons) but that's mostly because the Brits were pretty "Aryan" themselves.

Born after 1988.

Wrong oh woke millennial dummy. They are traitors! Benedict Arnold traitors!

I'm Gen X, the actual greatest generation. 1978 represent!! We are why the 90s were the best decade of 100 years.

I never said they weren't traitors - just that they were born after 1988.

To be clear... I agree with you. Now I'm just pointing out that I'm not a millennial. I'll be 42 tomorrow. Also - a registered democrat - who supported Trump and Bush Jr.

I made an assumption. Damn me for being wrong. I am a former Democrat registered now as an independent. I think it’s too bad we have to deal with these commie idiots instead of the real power behind all of this, International And Tech corporations bent on exploitation.

I'm not worried about it :) sounds like we have similar political backgrounds. Ive never changed my affiliation - I'm definitely more independent

I’m conservative and born after 1988 but your comment is PURE FIRE.

Thank you :-)

They are called Democrats

Russians?

Germarican.

"Hey, I know this flag stands for our pride in a racist institution, so instead of addressing that, let's pretend that Americans walk around waving USSR flags because the commies are the real evil....right guys?" *Gazes lovingly at KKK members in the room*

You didn’t see any of the riots in Portland or Seattle apparently or you Conveniently ignored them right

The point is you can’t say one is a traitor and the other isn’t. Communism has committed at least 20 fold more atrocities than the confederacy. Classism and racism are both deadly.

There is no denying that communism is evil. But the reality is that Americans are not walking around waiving Soviet flags. Whereas confederate flags are a daily occurrence. Both are evil, and neither have a place in society outside of a Museum.

Again people on the left at protests most certainly are flying the hammer and sickle. Of course you can be blind to it. I’m still not understanding how no one had a problem with the symbols of America before now and though I am not from the south and would not choose to display the stars and bars I support their right to do so. The same with the commie hammer and sickle Or the Nazi swastika. Or flying the Mexican or Italian flag to celebrate your heritage. If you want to fly it that’s protected under the first amendment. Unfortunately what is left of the Democratic Party and people like you no longer supports that.

Oh, you mean this protest? https://medium.com/annie-lab/misleading-photo-of-ussr-flag-waving-protestors-not-related-to-this-years-blm-movement-8d1a8d7c1f64

Ya that’s the only one. Just like the Minnesota riot guy. A single instance negates reality. It’s simple to find it with a quick search. Why you trying to deny it? shit there’s pictures of the BLM leaders with Castro. It’s a Marxist organization they don’t deny it they openly spout they are “trained“ Marxists so spare me the “its a myth” bullshit Mr. Biden.

So some idiot was at ONE protest with a Soviet Flag, a fact that only a couple sources can corroborate. Fine. Show me more. Show me that this is actually a problem and not an isolated incident. Unlike the Confederate flags and statues everywhere in the south.

I'm not surprised you just justified flying a swastika claiming that it is free speech. Your free speech ends when it encroaches on another person's human rights.

So you have a right not to see a symbol you don’t like. The thought is so Un american no self respecting American who understands the bill of rights or the constitution would promote censorship or the phony hate speech narrative

Killing 6 million jews plus more "undesirables" and then waiving a flag in support of that doesn't seem very loving to me. Kind of seems pretty hateful. You don't have any self respect if you're a Neo-Nazi... Well, you do, but its rooted in Narcissism. Still not saying we should remove these symbols entirely, which you seem to have missed. This is why we have Museums. To learn history. Hatred does nothing for us.

You don’t get to decide what people believe. Somehow the Nazi party has existed in America since before World War 2. We have been able to reject their message of hate without censoring it. I haven’t seen any of them on the ballot. If you believe in free speech you believe in free speech for all. Especially for those you disagree with. That’s what’s lost on you guys. If you start saying ok we have free speech for everyone except these guys you begin a process of qualification that just leads to totalitarian communist style speech laws.

You're absolutely right. I dont get to decide what people people believe. But there is a difference in disagreeing with someone in politics; in which I respect your right to your political beliefs, or economics, and agreeing with someone on fundamental human rights issues. I do think that we should be able to censor Nazi propoganda. You're mistaking "just someone's opinion" for a dangerous and volatile ideology, that, you're right, still exists today. Although saying that Nazis existed before World War 2 is incorrect, in which case I think you mean White Nationalist. You would be right to say that White Nationalists existed before World War 2.. Such as the Confederacy, the creators of the KKK. Verbally harassing someone is a shitty thing to do, but that isn't a missuse of your free speech, you would just be an asshole. When you start defending Fascist ideology is when you start to need to shut the f**k up. Unless you want a potential repeat of the Nazi Germany you like to demonize while also support. You can't be a Nazi and an Anti-Fascist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/06/american-nazis-in-the-1930sthe-german-american-bund/529185/

If you believe in free speech you must defend the right to it if the most distasteful people and ideas. You don’t get to categorize speech as dangerous. Saying blacks deserved equal rights was considered “dangerous speech” under your view saying so would have been banned.

You lack the ability to understand that defending a Nazis right to speak doesn’t make you a Nazi. It makes you an American who supports the constitution. Disagreeing with you doesn’t make me a Nazi or a racist but that is what your side does. My family proudly fought against the tyranny of the Nazis and the imperial Japanese. They fought to uphold an America that had its constitutional
Rights. They also fought communists who are tyranny of a slightly different flavor. Censorship and book burning are the defense of weak minded ideologies who’s own arguments can’t withstand the light of day and so need to be protected from thought.

Also, I forgot to ask you. That collection of images you posted regarding the Soviet flags at rallies, do you have a source for that besides the image? I'm not denying it's real, but I would like to examine it for myself outside of an image with no context.

https://www.non-compete.com/an-anarchist-defense-of-the-sickle-and-hammer/

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/oops-real-motives-of-chicago-protests-fly-on-national-television/amp

https://www.sebgorka.com/our-take-hong-kong-vs-portland-freedom-vs-socialism/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/florida/2020/06/11/7-arrested-after-statues-vandalized-in-miami/%3foutputType=amp

https://mobile.twitter.com/nmalliotakis/status/1278340357466587136

If the Left is against this. Why does Fox news attack movements like BLM for using THERE freedom of speech and accusing them of being "Communist". all of y'all on the right would get so heated if YOUR "free speech" was being taken but it's all good if ours is taken away. Now Define Left-Wing Politics.

Because you have freedom of speech doesn’t mean others can’t use their freedom of speech to disagree. BLM is a Marxist communist organization. They claim it on their website. They are anti American and pray for a communist revolution. You are confused in your belief because you protest everyone else has to agree. No we don’t.

How are they anti American but you guys wave the Confederate flag, Which IS anti-American. You dont even know what Communism is, And if you think im here just Disagreeing, you are just wrong. Now answer my question: DEFINE LEFT WING POLITICS

If you are communist, by definition you are anti American. Americans have fought communism since defeating the Nazis. If you support communism you are a traitor to America.

I don’t have to do what you say tyrant. You define your own leftist politics I don’t have to answer to you you imperious petty tyrant tard.

that is offensive

What is? Overly sensitive? Maybe they were just making a joke like you were when you made a meme about mobs attacking trump supporters.

Conveniently turned off replies on those two comments, I see. Also, you're a f**king moron. Defending a Nazi's right to spread hate speech, is yourself, tacitly agreeing with what they have to say. So yes, standing up for Nazis does make you one. Doesn't matter if your ancestors fought against them. You did not, and obviously don't share their Anti-Fascist ideals. If you dont fight Racism/Hate speech, you are part of the problem. I also never said we should burn books, but the right love to go to extremes to justify their bullshit. Multiple times I have told you that this is part of American History, and that we should preserve it in a Museum, where we go to LEARN HISTORY. But keep implying that I want to destroy and censor all right wing thoughts. There's a difference between right wing and Fascism, just like there is a difference between the "Left" and Communism. I'll put it this way. If you came to Canada waiving a Soviet or a Confederate flag, I'd beat the shit out of you either way. (Although it's different here, the main reason being that the troglodytes in my country have nothing to do with the confederacy, they're just white nationalists) Glad to see the seeds of Neo-Nazism are alive and well in the U.S. And you can be proud that you're a part of it.

So first off I don’t have the ability to turn off replies you stupid f**kwit. After so many the system cuts the response so you have to go back to reply to a different chain. You decided to go full triggered so I will respond in kind you dumbass communist cuck. Standing up for free speech isn’t standing up for Nazis you Liberal Canadian piece of shit. You totally lack any ability to understand the basic precept of free speech because you are an utter f**king moron and a Canadian. No wonder you don’t get it Eh. I’ll mop the floor with you hockey playing maple syrup eating bitch ass. Go hide from the words I’m using you f**king pussy because you are terrified of “hate speech” and want the authorities to tell you what is hate speech and define it for you like the f**king child you are. That was fun, thanks and F**k off Ya Liberal Canuck

Also, the first link you sent is someone's opinion. Otherwise known as an Anecdote. Not a case of violent communist insurgency. The second link, LITERALLY LINKS TO F**KING INFOWARS AT THE BOTTOM, the third is another Anecdote which literally mentions Antifa in the first paragraph (See: "Our Take") The fourth and fifth are real, and I agree that they are ridiculous. So, congratulations. You've managed to show me that people are upset and use a communist symbol to scare the people in power to make changes. Communism is evil, but I would argue that their use of the symbol is not. (If you're going to come at me with "But Neo-Nazis use of the Halencreuz isn't racist!! Its just their use of the symbol!! You need to get a brain scan). The right is the party of Scaremongering. There's a leftist, Marxist threat that seeks to undermine democracy? Seems like Agent Orange in office is able to do that on his own when he calls for his supporters to harass voters, and doesn't want people to use mail in ballots so that he can't manipulate them.

All are readily available with a google search and are actual pictures. Painting a hammer and sickle signifies something. What is it? I like how you liberal Canadians know all about the movement but you don’t live here. You lack the intellectual depth to understand that opposing you does not make me a racist or a Nazi. You know jack shit about me or my country. The left started the if you don’t agree then you are racist mantra and you and the European liberals suck it up. I will never agree with undermining free speech period f**k off it’s what makes America America so too bad if you don’t like it.

Also, I cant believe you posted all those links, knowing full well that there is a difference between Marxism and Communism. Its like you enjoy contradicting yourself on purpose. "I'm gonna show him a bunch of Anecdotal, republican biased media and claim that Marxism is a threat and that its actually thinly veiled communism." You can't be this stupid. This is always the rights strategy; Demonize the left while failing to take our own undemocratic actions into question.

The fact is you asked for proof so I posted it dummy. All were true photos of people carrying hammer and sickle flags in America and using them to mark statues and buildings along with their BLM tags. Why paint the hammer and sickle? What are you promoting along with BLM. BLM are trained Marxists according to their own leaders. America is not communist, Canada is almost now just a little bit further and you too can join the International organization of communism. You do you up in Canada don’t export your f**king weak knees pussy bullshit down here.

I can tell you're upset that I called you're fragile American pride into question, but it's alright. Calm down. You did provide me with SOME proof, the two examples of which I AGREED with you are egregious, assuming they were actually drawn by BLM members, which is hard to prove considering that many different kinds of people take part in BLM rallies. Also, if you'd like to know what the hammer and sickle means, id be happy to educate you. The Hammer and Sickle symbol originated during the Russian Revolution as a symbol of Solidarity between the peasantry and Middle class. After world War 1, it was used by the Soviet Union. Did the Soviet Union do horrible things? You're go***amn right. Did the Confederacy? Absolutely. They are both evil institutions, and they both DON'T EXIST ANYMORE. I wouldn't waive a St.George's cross also, just in case I dont seem like a liberal Canadian cuck enough for you yet (even though I didn't vote liberal....) because the Crusades were a Christian culling of Muslims. Doesnt mean we shouldn't learn about the confederacy, the Soviet union, nazi Germany, or the crusades. In fact, these are the most interesting parts of our history. Which is why we have institutions to preserve these parts of history, separate from the world that has changed around them. It's time to grow up. People from other countries can argue about your Politics. Saying "you're not from here, you don't get an opinion" just because I cant vote in your country is bullshit. American policies affect Canada whether you like it or not, especially economically. So, ironically, as one of your largest suppliers of petroleum which you take so seriously, I'd say my opinion is quite relevant.

Lastly, f**k Canadians who cheer "lol we burnt down the white house" I love America, and it is a beautiful country. The British Empire in their conquest for world domination f**ked us all over. Any Canadian who says that is the liberal cucks you worry about.

The fact is you are upset because I backed everything I said and made you look stupid. Then you thought you would play some gotcha by asking for links to pictures you could have found with a google look up. So one of them had a link to info wars? I really don’t know but there was also one from the Atlantic and other sites. Most actually had links from many sites and just posted the link to the one I picked. Ya it could have been white supremists if there weren’t eyewitnesses and video of them doing it. If you read you saw that 7 people were arrested in Florida for the Columbus statue that was defaced during a riot. But yeah it was probably white supremists or your favorite....NAZIS! Ya sure it’s like arguing with a two year old.

But you see, when you post information from a knowingly misleading site, it kind of takes away from the rest of your point. One was from Info Wars and one was titled "Our Take" Thus, subjective and in no way fact. The people who vandalized the statue COULD have been either White Supremacists or BLM supporters. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/christopher-columbus-statue-vandalized-miami-florida/

The Miami POLICE say they were caught on video.... where is it? No due process of any kind other than, "well, we saw them do it guys, please believe us." You know, you keep talking about all this proof you've shown me and how I'm upset because you backed everything you said. You haven't really backed anything up, other than anecdotal evidence and conspiracy theories. And, really, thinking that I'm lazy for not looking for evidence when YOU were the one who made the claim, is rather silly. The burden of proof is on you to support your claims in the face of the public Majority (most people would agree that it isn't socially acceptable to fly a nazi, communist or confederacy flag, outside of America that is.). Such is not laziness on my part, and is simply an attempt at arguing ad hominem.

Ok you go ahead and believe that. Like I said it’s white supremists sure. They are the ones causing all the trouble. New York and other cities are boarding up their stores and putting we support BLM signs on the boarding. That’s so the white supremists know which stores to loot I guess. New York's a hotbed of white supremacy. Your inane comments are senseless.

I think if you read the one that said “our take“ it was about the faked photo showing US and Hong Kong protestors. Their picture was a rebuttal to the faked one, in a similar format, showing it did happen.

Canadians never burned the White House. The British Veterans of the Napoleonic wars did. Respects to them. Wanna try it again?

Free Speech, Freedom of Religion and the right to bear arms are the Holy Trinity of America. There’s lots of socialist countries. There’s only one America and we will not surrender. You can have an opinion but your opinion is irrelevant because you can’t vote. You censor and eliminate speech over there we will keep our first amendment rights we were endowed with after rebelling against your Imperial English tyranny. We don’t want to be Canada or England, but we support our Canadian and English brothers in their renewed fight against leftist dogma and hate.

What are you smoking? The conclusion of my argument was that I hate Canadians who claimed that Canada destroyed the White House, because it was, in fact, the British. Did you even read my post? I hate the British Monarchy also. Also its laughably ironic to say that you believe in free speech but then say that my words have no merit because I cant vote, and that I should avoid talking about American politics. Sounds like censorship to me.

Oh no you see that is how little you grasp free speech. Let’s set aside that you aren’t a US Citizen and don’t actually possess free speech granted by the US Constitution. Let’s pretend you are a voting Citizen. You have free speech to spout whatever crackpot narrative you want, but I have free speech to call
You a crackpot and tell You to shut up. You of course can counter with the oft used American response, “I don’t have to shut up it’s a free country“. The problem is when I scream that you aren’t allowed to say what you said and want the authorities to arrest you as you encourage baby Stalin.

Oh, I almost forgot. My final correction of your incorrect interpretation of American History. Ahem... the Founding Fathers were Deist, not Christian.To say that freedom of Religion is an unshakable American value is absolute bullshit.

Oh it most certainly is not bullshit. We established no prohibitions on religion as a cornerstone of our founding and it doesn’t matter if they were deist, quakers, Catholics or Protestants of some other flavor. Unlike Europe at the time that was rife with religious wars and Persecution’s based on faith. Keep trying