That flag would be offensive to anybody who immigrated here from Poland or any other former oppressive USSR state. Some might consider people who fly that flag in this country to be domestic enemies of the constitution.

I find it to be offensive and traitorous and yes enemies of this country can be domestic. If you fly this flag you are a traitor. There is no argument you can make to justify it. You can claim your rights to free speech as you spit on the very same rights but that doesn’t change that you are a traitor.

Exactly.

I would consider them domestic enemies, just as if they were to fly a Nazi flag.

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Commie scum that should be treated as enemies. Soviet Union was worse than the CSA and NOTHING about it was American, any way you cut it.

Exscuse me, Im Pretty sure The CSA killed Americans and actually threatened freedom for ALL men unlike the Soviets.

Soviets killed Americans in the form of shooting down some planes. Also the CSA were Americans too, so is the Union just as terrible for killing Americans? Read any history book, both sides are Americans, that's why the civil war killed the most Americans of any war, because it did it at twice the pace. Well, let's be honest, the CSA only threatened freedom for blacks. Still not good, but it didn't threaten freedom for all men. Communism on the other hand is by nature bent on global domination, it's part of the Communist manifesto, and it eradicates the freedom of every man, white, black, asian, etc, because you are now under total control of the state.
Oh and the Soviets killed tens of millions of their own via starvation, etc.

These Liberals say how Fascism is worse because the Communists want to unite the world while the fascists wanted to rule their own type

Both were bad, but one was hellbent on global domination

True, and it's kind of interesting (I've been watching a lot of stuff on Nazism, Hitler, etc.) Hitler probably would've been just fine leaving Britain alone if Britain hadn't blockaded Germany (not that Britain didn't have good reasons) but that's mostly because the Brits were pretty "Aryan" themselves.

Born after 1988.

Wrong oh woke millennial dummy. They are traitors! Benedict Arnold traitors!

I'm Gen X, the actual greatest generation. 1978 represent!! We are why the 90s were the best decade of 100 years.

I never said they weren't traitors - just that they were born after 1988.

To be clear... I agree with you. Now I'm just pointing out that I'm not a millennial. I'll be 42 tomorrow. Also - a registered democrat - who supported Trump and Bush Jr.

I made an assumption. Damn me for being wrong. I am a former Democrat registered now as an independent. I think it’s too bad we have to deal with these commie idiots instead of the real power behind all of this, International And Tech corporations bent on exploitation.

I'm not worried about it :) sounds like we have similar political backgrounds. Ive never changed my affiliation - I'm definitely more independent

I’m conservative and born after 1988 but your comment is PURE FIRE.

Thank you :-)

They are called Democrats

Germarican.

Russians?

Tbh The Soviets haven't done shit to us DIRECTLY. They are just a brutal government with their own twisted way to spread their influence. And let me ask this. Have we ever actually went to direct war with the Soviet Union? No. have we been in direct war with the Confederacy and Nazi Germany? Yes!

P.S. Before y'all ignorant fools come at me with the "Commie"Insults. just know I hate Communism just as much as the next guy.

So what, ever heard of the Korean War, Vietnam or the Cold War? The Soviets are communists who do not wish us well just like China. You need an education in non wine history.

Oh Yes, Bluessol, North Korea was so much of a threat to us that they could take the entire pacific coast in a matter of a day. Vietnam was totally trying to Nuke Washington DC. And the Cold war was about 2 tyrants trying to influence the world. both sides were bad. Maybe YOU should educate yourself on Racial Inequality in the Cold War

Maybe you should check your naïveté before spouting off. We fought global communism in many places including Korea and Vietnam. Your arguments that we shouldn’t have been involved belie your ignorance. The Germans never threatened Washington DC either do why did we go to fight them in Europe?

I never said we should not have intervened, halfwit. I said both sides are bad.
And here is the Difference between the Nazis and Soviets: The Nazis actually conquered almost all of Europe and were planning to expand outside, The Soviets were just expanding influence like the US. My argument is The fact that Both sides were bad in their own way. maybe stop skimming through and actually try to understand what i am trying to say

The Communists attacked Poland just like the Nazis. After the Nazis were pushed back the communists expanded into those countries and subverted their independence. Communists are the antithesis of America. Apologizing for them and defending them makes you a communist sympathizer.

Im not a communist sympathizer, i just simply see both sides as equally bad.
And plus it was the Soviets that liberated Nazi Death Camps As well as Americans.

Heres something the Soviets and Americans have in Common: Both Suppress people. Dont say America hasnt because they have.
Racism and unequal rights for minorities was one of the main things/
The USSR suppressed any free speech. But the Americans did that to all but the Majority white population.

Both committed Massacres and have made concentration camps. The Soviet Gulags and the Japanese Concentration camps. as well as 2 nukes dropped on Japan killing Millions!

Both in their own way, were imperialist tyrants trying to triumph over the other to be the most powerful

Jeez, I hope you aren’t an American. If you are I am ashamed to say we are countrymen. Equating the Japanese internment camps to Soviet Gulags is just ignorant. Dropping bombs on Japan killed about 150,000 people and saved the lives of millions more Japanese and Americans that would have died in the invasion of Japan. The US has no massacres on the scale of soviet purges like their killing of military officers or, starving Ukrainians, or the Karyn forest massacre of Polish soldiers. You repeat illiterate communist talking points and propaganda. America isn’t perfect but it’s has still been a force of good in the world. Why do so many people want to risk their life to come here. If you hate it leave it.

"Hey, I know this flag stands for our pride in a racist institution, so instead of addressing that, let's pretend that Americans walk around waving USSR flags because the commies are the real evil....right guys?" *Gazes lovingly at KKK members in the room*

You didn’t see any of the riots in Portland or Seattle apparently or you Conveniently ignored them right

The point is you can’t say one is a traitor and the other isn’t. Communism has committed at least 20 fold more atrocities than the confederacy. Classism and racism are both deadly.

There is no denying that communism is evil. But the reality is that Americans are not walking around waiving Soviet flags. Whereas confederate flags are a daily occurrence. Both are evil, and neither have a place in society outside of a Museum.

Again people on the left at protests most certainly are flying the hammer and sickle. Of course you can be blind to it. I’m still not understanding how no one had a problem with the symbols of America before now and though I am not from the south and would not choose to display the stars and bars I support their right to do so. The same with the commie hammer and sickle Or the Nazi swastika. Or flying the Mexican or Italian flag to celebrate your heritage. If you want to fly it that’s protected under the first amendment. Unfortunately what is left of the Democratic Party and people like you no longer supports that.

If the Left is against this. Why does Fox news attack movements like BLM for using THERE freedom of speech and accusing them of being "Communist". all of y'all on the right would get so heated if YOUR "free speech" was being taken but it's all good if ours is taken away. Now Define Left-Wing Politics.

Because you have freedom of speech doesn’t mean others can’t use their freedom of speech to disagree. BLM is a Marxist communist organization. They claim it on their website. They are anti American and pray for a communist revolution. You are confused in your belief because you protest everyone else has to agree. No we don’t.

How are they anti American but you guys wave the Confederate flag, Which IS anti-American. You dont even know what Communism is, And if you think im here just Disagreeing, you are just wrong. Now answer my question: DEFINE LEFT WING POLITICS

If you are communist, by definition you are anti American. Americans have fought communism since defeating the Nazis. If you support communism you are a traitor to America.

I don’t have to do what you say tyrant. You define your own leftist politics I don’t have to answer to you you imperious petty tyrant tard.

Oh, you mean this protest? https://medium.com/annie-lab/misleading-photo-of-ussr-flag-waving-protestors-not-related-to-this-years-blm-movement-8d1a8d7c1f64

Ya that’s the only one. Just like the Minnesota riot guy. A single instance negates reality. It’s simple to find it with a quick search. Why you trying to deny it? shit there’s pictures of the BLM leaders with Castro. It’s a Marxist organization they don’t deny it they openly spout they are “trained“ Marxists so spare me the “its a myth” bullshit Mr. Biden.

So some idiot was at ONE protest with a Soviet Flag, a fact that only a couple sources can corroborate. Fine. Show me more. Show me that this is actually a problem and not an isolated incident. Unlike the Confederate flags and statues everywhere in the south.

I'm not surprised you just justified flying a swastika claiming that it is free speech. Your free speech ends when it encroaches on another person's human rights.

So you have a right not to see a symbol you don’t like. The thought is so Un american no self respecting American who understands the bill of rights or the constitution would promote censorship or the phony hate speech narrative

Killing 6 million jews plus more "undesirables" and then waiving a flag in support of that doesn't seem very loving to me. Kind of seems pretty hateful. You don't have any self respect if you're a Neo-Nazi... Well, you do, but its rooted in Narcissism. Still not saying we should remove these symbols entirely, which you seem to have missed. This is why we have Museums. To learn history. Hatred does nothing for us.

You don’t get to decide what people believe. Somehow the Nazi party has existed in America since before World War 2. We have been able to reject their message of hate without censoring it. I haven’t seen any of them on the ballot. If you believe in free speech you believe in free speech for all. Especially for those you disagree with. That’s what’s lost on you guys. If you start saying ok we have free speech for everyone except these guys you begin a process of qualification that just leads to totalitarian communist style speech laws.

You're absolutely right. I dont get to decide what people people believe. But there is a difference in disagreeing with someone in politics; in which I respect your right to your political beliefs, or economics, and agreeing with someone on fundamental human rights issues. I do think that we should be able to censor Nazi propoganda. You're mistaking "just someone's opinion" for a dangerous and volatile ideology, that, you're right, still exists today. Although saying that Nazis existed before World War 2 is incorrect, in which case I think you mean White Nationalist. You would be right to say that White Nationalists existed before World War 2.. Such as the Confederacy, the creators of the KKK. Verbally harassing someone is a shitty thing to do, but that isn't a missuse of your free speech, you would just be an asshole. When you start defending Fascist ideology is when you start to need to shut the f**k up. Unless you want a potential repeat of the Nazi Germany you like to demonize while also support. You can't be a Nazi and an Anti-Fascist.

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/06/american-nazis-in-the-1930sthe-german-american-bund/529185/

If you believe in free speech you must defend the right to it if the most distasteful people and ideas. You don’t get to categorize speech as dangerous. Saying blacks deserved equal rights was considered “dangerous speech” under your view saying so would have been banned.

You lack the ability to understand that defending a Nazis right to speak doesn’t make you a Nazi. It makes you an American who supports the constitution. Disagreeing with you doesn’t make me a Nazi or a racist but that is what your side does. My family proudly fought against the tyranny of the Nazis and the imperial Japanese. They fought to uphold an America that had its constitutional
Rights. They also fought communists who are tyranny of a slightly different flavor. Censorship and book burning are the defense of weak minded ideologies who’s own arguments can’t withstand the light of day and so need to be protected from thought.

Also, I forgot to ask you. That collection of images you posted regarding the Soviet flags at rallies, do you have a source for that besides the image? I'm not denying it's real, but I would like to examine it for myself outside of an image with no context.

https://www.non-compete.com/an-anarchist-defense-of-the-sickle-and-hammer/

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/oops-real-motives-of-chicago-protests-fly-on-national-television/amp

https://www.sebgorka.com/our-take-hong-kong-vs-portland-freedom-vs-socialism/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/florida/2020/06/11/7-arrested-after-statues-vandalized-in-miami/%3foutputType=amp

https://mobile.twitter.com/nmalliotakis/status/1278340357466587136