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Yeah, of course the media will run with that tweet, completely ignoring two critical facts. 1) he put "???" at the end, which if you're in journalism, might be a clue to something. 2) Our incredibly ill-election-literate (nice made up word there...) media should know that the president absolutely does not have the power to delay an election.

The more cynical among us would say that Trump just didn't want the present, at the time, news cycle to be dominated by Representative Lewis' funeral and those speaking at it, among other negative-Trump related news items... which is probably more on point. Trump loves to troll and deflect (which is a thing of beauty when the media and democrats' heads collectively implode!) and he hates to come in second at anything, especially anything that involves TV ratings.

You get it. Few do. I watched Tucker read the quote word for word as they had the tweet posted beside him. The only thing missing was completely ignoring the punctuation at the end of the statement. It was quite telling - especially considering Tucker usually supports the Republicans.

I agree in that he often bullsh*ts ahem "trolls" for whatever reasons (probably including distraction). But I'm not sure how exactly you think the media should have handled that. He doesn't have that authority and him pondering this question is probably a distraction... so... Should they not take him seriously and ignore the president? Or cover it and let him successfully distract from Lewis's funeral and/or the GDP data being released? I'm not sure where you were going with these statements.

I'm glad you asked. Thank you.

I think the media should "handle it" they way they should (but clearly don't) handle all their news reporting, and stick to reporting just the facts.

If they want to tell us what they think we should think, that's fine, but ONLY when what they're presenting is clearly an op/ed piece. Hell, that's the way it used to be, right? At least until the thought police and the PC police and the woke generation took over.

Otherwise the sheeple who are used to having the media tell them what to think, won't be able to tell the difference, as is too often the case these days.

The facts (trump pondering the question of delaying the election...despite having no authority to do so) reflect negatively on trump though.... the facts are biased.
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Not sure how I didn't think of referencing it sooner
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I think he was "suggesting it in the form of a question" on Twitter to the American people to get a feel if whether or not he would have any public support for attempting it.... It's starting to get late in the game and he's looking for hail mary plays.

Well, he is desperate for the economy to rebound so people won’t feel there needs to be a change. Maybe he thinks delaying the vote will give more time for that to happen. 🤨

I hear he's also trying to make good on his promise to lower the cost of medicine... Which sounds good.. but also sounds like the government interfering in free market capitalism...(?) Idk.

I don't believe facts are biased. I get at it in my most recent reply to you (just posted) that since the media has not covered him fairly nor objectively since he announced his candidacy, the average person's think is predisposed to the negative.

Even the way you phrase this, about Trump pondering the question, shows bias. If it had been president Obama, I believe the media would have reported it as the president floating an idea.

But for Trump, they make it look like he's a fascist, he's a dictator, he's going to impose martial law, he's going to delay and by gawd if he had his way, cancel the election and stay in the white house forever.

It would see pretty silly if so many people hadn't already fallen for it, and now believe what the media tells them to think.

Sure.. it is quite possible that the media would have covered it differently had Obama said it.. but i dont think the greater context of the difference between Obama vs Trump as far as words, actions, etc can be ignored. I mean Donald talks sh*t directly to the media about the media all the time. It's seems to be a constant battle between them. I don't remember Obama doing that. But maybe if they had railed on stuff as insignificant as a tan suit every day his tune would have changed.

Also I think the mail-in voter fraud part of the tweet would've probably been quite the bombshell coming from Obama... From Trump at this point it seems kind of like the boy who cries wolf.

I alluded to what you're saying about the greater context in my other reply. Ignore what he says, and it becomes nothing more than hot air. Watch what he does. The hot air is just noise. What he does is the signal.

Obama and the media had, as you clearly point out, quite a different relationship. But I recall Obama being quite sensitive to criticism. He wouldn't instantly counter-attack, as Trump does (as Trump has readily admitted he does) but you could clearly see that he was pissed when criticized. Also, the media easily gave him a pass on so many things that they would crucify Trump for doing. For example: https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-admin-spied-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

I love your 'boy who cries wolf' comment, because I think it's applicable to so many different issues since Trump announced. It absolutely applies to him, which is why I've adopted my 'watch what he does, not what he says' approach. It is also, fortunately or unfortunately, I suppose depending on your point of view, why I approach every single negative thing about Trump that I see in the media with a very healthy skepticism. In almost all cases, I just go straight to the video of what he said, or the WH transcript of a press briefing, etc., to see what they pass off as a fact. In most cases, they're taking what he said and interpreting it the way they want, then spinning negative (which I admit, is often easy to do based on what he says, because he's a blow hard who talks off the cuff.. a bad combination, imo!) But that doesn't mean the press should have carte blanche to make up lies. But even I, a staunch Trump supporter, find myself saying way more frequently than I'd like, that I wish he hadn't said *that* (whatever it may be...)

Ok I'll bite. Who agreed that the election should be delayed? You?

You would be the woman.. asking me, Jordan Peterson, "so you're saying you speak for everybody?"..... in response to a meme.

The president pondered the question of delaying the election... Seemed to me the resounding answer from "everyone "(including the Donald himself shortly after he made that tweet) was "nooooo".

Change my mind or draw 25
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I have acknowledged the (theoretical) possibility that a few dingbats may exist who agree (in conversations with other people) but IF they exist, I'm still unaware who they actually are. Speaking of which, let me know when you have an answer to my original question.

It's fair to ask you the same question. Who agreed to it? Nobody has even said it should be delayed, as far as I know. And the people who are trying to lie to us, by telling us someone said it should be delayed, are absolutely ignorant of the fact that it's not such an easy thing to do, and that nobody can do it on their own, not even the president.

Who agreed??? Probably a few dingbats that I am currently unaware of...but I never implied anyone said "yes" to the question the president was pondering.

I literally said everyone said "no".. to which Tim (sarcastically) replied "you speak for everybody? Neat!".

(Which implies that people exist who would not answer "no" to the question donald posed.)

I get what you're saying. Ultimately, I think the point is that it's only the media that's saying anyone said the election should be delayed.

What's so bad about that, imo, is that they've got the outright balls to say that Trump said it, when he didn't. People are just not aware enough to be able to catch them in that lie.

He pondered the question, which makes it look like he thinks he has the authority to delay it.. but I didn't watch CNN (or whichever news outlet you are referring to?)'s coverage of it so I don't know who changed Trump's question into a statement.

You seem intelligent, so why do you believe that his pondering the question, makes it look like he thinks he has the authority to delay it?

I don't believe you, nor anyone else would come to that conclusion if the media covered him fairly. So I'm saying that I believe the way you and many others perceive him has been altered by a biased media, due to their constant lies and attacks on him, I watch CNN for a couple of hours every weekend (that's all I can take, literally) and from the moment I start, it's hit piece after hit piece against Trump. It's nothing but opinion being presented as news. It's pathetic, and thankfully, their ratings show that a lot of people are catching on.

Even at this point in the circus, I'd like to hold out hope that if the media just reported exactly what he said or did, without throwing in their opinions stated as facts (which are sometimes outright lies) that people would read a tweet like that and think that he's just floating an idea (as all presidents have done) or at worst, attempting to deflect media focus away from others, like president Obama, as I mentioned so many posts ago.

Well he also mentions voting fraud in the tweet which he has used his authority to do something about in the past. (after questioning the results of the last election (3 million alleged illegal votes for hillary) he set up that voter fraud commission.) Here he mentions voter fraud and ponders delaying the election. Nothing about his tweet suggests involving Congress. I think on some level he was fishing to see how America would react but basically my answer is context.

As far as your statements about the media influencing me... Eh.. I was never really into his TV show "the apprentice", so maybe I never really liked him. Idk. I do generally think he's a bullsh*t artist. The latest coming to mind being his claim that he had a healthcare plan to replace Obamacare that he'd be signing in two weeks... Seems there was literally nothing there. No portrayal, no exaggeration, no opinion, simply fact. He said something with no basis in reality. Maybe next week he will apologize for being late with signing the plan he had in the works all along and I can eat my words. But until then......

Living in Taxifornia, I can guarantee you that there were far more fraudulent votes cast for HRC than the media would ever tell us about. Any state, like Taxifornia, that gives driver's licenses to illegals, and also has what is commonly called 'Motor Voter' registration is easily registering illegals to vote by the tens of thousands or more. It's really nothing more than an honor system to register. That means zero oversight on registering to vote when you';re an illegal and you're getting a driver's license. I'm not saying that proves Trump's claims about voter fraud, but come on, politics is worse than sports when it comes to the old saying: if you're not cheating, you're not trying.

Nothing about his tweet says he's going to try to delay the election, either. If our standard for tweeting is now having to pre-deny what others may infer based on what you post, then the entire concept of tweeting would have to change. Unless you want to apply the standard only to Trump?

If you admit that you believe he's fishing, why are the media getting their collective panties in a twist?

Of course, there are many people who never liked him, and I'm perfectly willing to agree with you;re one of them. If so, then imo you're even more susceptible to the lies from the media, because you're pre-disposed to believe those lies due to your distaste for him. You'd have to be even less objective than someone who may have only started to hate him *after* he announced and the media started in with their lies about him.

What health care are you referring to? Regardless, one thing I always suggest is to stop paying so much attention to what he says. We all know he's a BS artist! That's the noise, not the signal. When he's tweeting, he's absolutely, positively, attempting to manipulate the media, and / or speaking directly to the public, because he knows the media won't give him a fair shake. So, I suggest paying attention to what he does, which is a helluva lot more than the mainstream media will ever tell you. Because a lot of it's good for the country. And they just can't have that getting out.

I re-read your last paragraph before posting, and I think to be fair, if you're going to criticize Trump for those things (which is fine), then all (or just most) politicians are also guilty. There's nothing specific to Trump about any of that, but those traits and tactics are common to politicians in general.

I looked into illegals being registered to vote in CA a while back and seem to recall it essentially being fake news. I'd like to see some journalist actually try it though.. film an undocumented immigrant or find someone willing to pay them to attempt to register and/or vote and report on how that goes... It would probably be a legal nightmare for any party involved but I imagine it'd get an insane amount of views regardless of the outcome.

I see that he has now explicitly stated that he thinks has the authority to intervene in various state's mail in ballot processes.. so not really any grey area as far as that this time.

Fishing/testing the water is only 1 of many possible motives for saying that but you're asking why would the media get their panties in a twist over it..Why wouldn't they?? The president trying to determine if America thinks he has the authority to delay an election (based on their reaction) seems like kind of a big deal to me.. somewhat similar to a kid trying to see what he can get away with.

What healtcare plan am I referring to? Who knows. He said he'd be signing into law a "full and complete healthcare plan" on Fox news I think it was within 2 weeks. 2 weeks have come and gone. Seems like he blatantly mislead people to in an attempt to make them believe that his "repeal and replace" campaign rhetoric was coming to fruition. Looks like it was BS..... Similar to his alleged 10% tax cut for the middle-class BS right before the 2018 midterm election. I mean there was simply nothing there. He was not lying to troll the media, he was lying to the American public.. in an attempt to sway votes. I would tend to agree that most politicians are guilty of lying and that isn't unique to Trump... but Trump's shtick in 2016 was basically running as a non-politician who was supposed to clean up Washington, "drain the swamp" or whatever... His actions were immediately hiring a bunch of people from Goldman Sachs, 4x as many former lobbyists than Obama did 6 years in (possibly in violation of his own executive order), permanent corporate tax cuts, and lying the same if not more than any other politician.