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LEADERS LEAD; COWARDS KNEEL | image tagged in trump,trump 2020,joe biden,maga | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
6,930 views 93 upvotes Made by AlexCornitius 5 years ago in politics
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BABY CRYING | TDS PEOPLE TRUMP WENT INTO A BUNKER! | image tagged in baby crying | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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AND I CAME OUT BECAUSE I WANTED TO GO TAKE A PICTURE HOLDING A BIBLE | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
It was possibly the greatest Bible photo of all time.. in the history of pictures of people holding Bibles, there has never been a more beautiful photo. And the liberal media won't even talk about it!
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A TRUE COWARD | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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eeny meeny miney mo
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Have you read Catch-22? That's where my first reply came from. :-)
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Ah... Hillary strikes again :P

No, but I'm glad to hear there was more to your meme than met my eye! ..."live on feet" seemed like a super obvious choice..
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Lol
2 ups, 5y
Catch-22 is one of the few examples of an epic book made into an epic movie. If you have a chance I would highly recommend either, but you would be well served to experience both. :-)
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Well that doesn’t Count
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:P
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Well yoga is just not fun
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Ok mate you win
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😂
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Mate everything that you have posted was someone kneeling for a different reason so therefore your point is invalid.
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Especially the kid... that YELLOW shirt really suits him.
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2 ups, 5y,
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You don’t quite get what I said do you?
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You seemed to be agreeing with me that people kneel for different reasons.

The reason in the OP meme being: solidarity with peaceful protests. So is it cowardly because.... too peaceful? or because nobody else in the pic did? did Biden's administration tear gas peaceful protesters on the way there? What exactly was cowardly about it??
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Sure, We can agree on that definition. However, the problem is that the intention behind those kneeling in the original meme is self evidently intended in an entirely different way than those in your images. So, you're strawmanning the meme is if it were making a statement about kneeling generally. Which is clearly not the case.
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Kneeling with the intent of showing solidarity with a peaceful protest (even if in context of a photo op) doesn't necessarily seem cowardly to me.. especially not when in the context shown here of Trump exiting the Whitehouse to do his photo op....... Therefore, I presumed he was talking about kneeling in general.

What is it about his intent that is cowardly?
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I disagree that they were showing solidarity with a peaceful protest. They were doing what they know to be politically expedient to secure the votes of a demographic of blacks - 95% of which have voted Democrat for decades now, lest he be labeled a racist like this movement has labeled all of those who dare not to kowtow to their movement and lose that support.

All Sharpton and Jessie Jackson have both personally threatened businesses with bribery to write them a donation check or they would put them out of business with boycotts, civil rights protests, and marches. They did this with Coke.

This is more about kowtowing to a religion of woke culture based on a false narrative of race motivated police brutality that the data just doesn't support than it is about peaceful protests against systemic racism.
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Merely appearing in solidarity with the intent of keeping a demographic of voters that they've had anyway for decades.....?
"Politically expedient" ok, sure.
"Disingenuous" maybe..
"Cowardly" eh.. idk bout that.

"Fear of being labeled a racist for not kneeling" would theoretically be a plausible argument in regards to it being "cowardly"... but that seems like a pretty a thin and somewhat ridiculous concept. Have they tried that on trump yet? Surely they would have done it by now considering they like to call him racist whenever possible for whatever reason...

Trump is not only not kneeling.. He's actually going out of his way to continue denouncing kneeling as a protest in the face of America and more and more of the NFL coming around in support of it. 😂

Call it "cowardly" due to whatever alleged intent if you want to but the more I think about it, Biden kneeling seems like a f*cking genius move if you ask me.
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"Smug arrogance.. lol cool. I've been called many things by people on here, I'll add that to the list. "

You're taking it as a pejorative description - I meant it as literal.

"Biden was clearly joking"

He clearly wasn't. and only back peddled once the political fallout ensued.

"and Charlamagne didn't even flinch when he said it.."

Democrats have abused blacks for decades and still secure their votes through welfare handouts. Why would a back handed comment like Biden's change that now?

"A little late for Republicans to try and jump on the woke bandwagon"

Conservative Republicans aren't - Only politically motived cowards are.

"but I guess that's how it was with gay marriage too. (Although I'm sure there are still plenty who oppose it)"

It was pushed in a similar manner as woke culture, by mob rule.

"As far as black people leaving the Dem party in droves.. where are they going?? Last poll I saw said Trump at 3%."

You seem to be navigating data with a great degree of difficulty. 3% is the total - not the rate at which they are leaving. One has nothing to do with the other.

"Trump? balls? Lol naw.. what he's got plenty of is BS.."

Denial as a counter argument or perspective is no counter argument or perspective at all.

"And speaking of which yes Drew Brees... Drew bought into the whole "disrespecting our flag/the troops" BS and later apologized for initially being a dumbass. Good for him."

You failed to address the point of me bringing this up. Woke culture trying to destroy anyone who dare disagrees with them. What is your response?

"Biden's move indirectly baits Trump into doubling/tripling down in opposing peaceful protests.. and fortunately for the Dems, Trump will never apologize for being a dumbass."

Which again avoids the reason I brought this up. You seem to be very fond of Red Herring fallacies.

"There goes that 3%."

The data does not support that empty claim. This also assumes your above speculation about Biden's motive to be true.

"arse"??? Bro are you even American.. ? Who says that???"

You appear to be confusing me with your progressive peers. I don't look at pop culture around me to determine whether or not my language is in vogue or not.
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Ah...Your comment about my smug arrogance was meant literally... I'll add a footnote.

I disagree about him not joking. But I like how repubs seem to have become the PC police.

So you're alleging Democrats have abused blacks for decades and still secure their votes through welfare handouts& Biden's back handed (non-joking) comment won't change that now...but him not kneeling would?

"Conservative Republicans aren't [jumping on the "woke" bandwagon]- Only politically motived cowards are..."

cowards like... the donald? Lol

Yes.. the total.. 3% was the total percent of the black vote he has garnered according to what I last heard.. So if they are leaving the Dem party in droves, it remains unclear where they're going. I guess to be fair it is possible that he once had 0% so 3% could be seen as quite an improvement. Maybe the number I heard was just old. Idk

Ok. I guess you're free to continue admiring trump's alleged balls.

I'm kind of unclear how "woke culture" was attempting to destroy Drew Brees(?). but regardless of whatever happened there sometimes it is a little much.

Actually I was assuming Trump's own combative actions in opposition to Biden's would be what cost him black voters... so Biden's motivation would be irrelevant as far as that goes.

No... I'm just confusing you with someone possibly British.
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The intention behind each of these images of people kneeling is different - your intention for posting it is what's known in logic as a faulty comparison fallacy.

intention noun - in·​ten·​tion | \ in-ˈten(t)-shən \
Definition of intention

1a: what one intends to do or bring about

b: the object for which a prayer, mass, or pious act is offered

2: a determination to act in a * certain way * : RESOLVE
2 ups, 5y
I don't need a dictionary, I've got you. :)

Anyways, I guess we're in agreement then? Kneeling does not necessarily mean someone is a coward. Their intent matters.

What we may differ on is the intent behind Joe Biden's kneeling (at this specific point in time)... and what about that allegedly makes him a coward.
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"Ah...Your comment about my smug arrogance was meant literally... I'll add a footnote."

You should. It's smug arrogance to assume you'll always have the black vote. This is what you and Biden both did.

"I disagree about him not joking. But I like how repubs seem to have become the PC police."

That's good to know, but you'd have to offer a basis for that. Otherwise it's reasonable to assume your position is rooted in nothing more than conjectural bias. He only back peddled after the political fallout ensued. Then was praised by the media for an apology he never made.

"So you're alleging Democrats have abused blacks for decades and still secure their votes through welfare handouts& Biden's back handed (non-joking) comment won't change that now...but him not kneeling would?"

I'm not alleging, but stating a fact. Take one look at statistics in minority neighborhoods Democrats have run for decades and you'll know this. The lives of blacks since switching to voting for Democrats in the 30s has only worsened & been devastated - not improved. Black men, like Harvard Academic, Thomas Sowell, have written dozens of books on the topic. Larry Elder, another black man, has also spoken at length about it. Shelby Steel, another black man, is another. All these black men have taken the red pill.

"cowards like... the donald? Lol"

This is a tu quoque fallacy and immaturity - Not a response.

"So if they are leaving the Dem party in droves, it remains unclear where they're going."

It's not unclear at all. They're either becoming Republicans or independents.

"Ok. I guess you're free to continue admiring trump's alleged balls."

So instead of addressing the point you just respond with immaturity. I guess that speaks for itself.

"I'm kind of unclear how "woke culture" was attempting to destroy Drew Brees(?)."

Drew Brees made a simple statement how when he see's the flag it reminds him of family who fought for freedom and was viciously attacked by the woke crowd until he apologized for it. The kneeling crowd is about the the flag representing slavery. Again, do you live under a rock?

"Actually I was assuming Trump's own combative actions in opposition to Biden's would be what cost him black voters... so Biden's motivation would be irrelevant as far as that goes."

Trump had the lowest unemployment among blacks in history. He hasn't been cost black votes,but gained them.

"No... I'm just confusing you with someone possibly British."

I live in NY.
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I'll add another footnote showing my comment was based entirely on your statements. Notice my first comment regarding it was actually a question trying to clarify YOUR position.

What better basis should I have than you as the example?
And Good. I'm glad he didn't apologize for a joke.

That's cool. you failed to address the substance of the question though so I guess red herring.

Call it whatever fallacy you want, I think it's interesting that by your definition, the donald is also a coward. (especially in context of the OP meme)"Conservative Republicans aren't [jumping on the woke bandwagon]- Only politically motived cowards are"....

As far as black Dems leaving, they're (allegedly) becoming independents or Republicans who don't support donald.. aka RINOs.. ala Mitt Romney, Colin Powell, etc. ;P

Sorry I have no interest in the topic of donalds balls but I'll add immature to the list. :)

Football and it's players are also of virtually zero interest to me, I barely watch the news, and you failed to tell me how he was viciously attacked.

I hear many (all?) of them new jobs have evaporated and black people are disproportionately dying from coronavirus... which this administration has obviously not handled well. Speaking of which is that "Trump Death Clock" still in Times Square??
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"Merely appearing in solidarity with the intent of keeping a demographic of voters that they've had anyway for decades.....?"

While Democrats still hold a majority of black voters - blacks are still leaving the party in droves. Your comment is precisely the kind of smug arrogance Biden demonstrated with his " You ain't black" comment. He takes for granted - just as you have here - that it's a given that blacks will always vote for Democrats. This has been shifting more and more. Only the media is silent on it because it's not politically expedient. Blacks might eventually get the idea that it's not taboo to vote for a Republican.

"Fear of being labeled a racist for not kneeling" would theoretically be a plausible argument in regards to it being "cowardly"... but that seems like a pretty a thin and somewhat ridiculous concept "

Not when you consider the current political power within the whole "Woke Culture" movement. These are tyrants who have already put people out of business and have just about wrecked the NFL. And I predict, we'll eventually cause it to go bankrupt if it continues.

"Have they tried that on trump yet?"

All the time. Only unlike most spineless cowards - he has the balls to stand up to them.

"Surely they would have done it by now considering they like to call him racist whenever possible for whatever reason..."

They have. What do you live under a rock? The primary theme of "progressive" media sources is that Trump is racist. Of course, that's not a stretch when "progressives" already see everything through a racist lens to begin with.

"Trump is not only not kneeling."

I know he's not - nor should he. He has the balls to stand up to these idiots. That's exactly why people voted for him. He has a spine.

"He's actually going out of his way to continue denouncing kneeling as a protest in the face of America and more and more of the NFL coming around in support of it. 😂"

Yes he is, and rightly so. There are also those who oppose this in the NFL, but are silent because they're afraid of having their careers wrecked. Look at what they did recently with Drew Brees.of the New Orleans Saints.

"Call it "cowardly" due to whatever alleged intent if you want to but the more I think about it, Biden kneeling seems like a f*cking genius move if you ask me."

It's not genius - just political. No more genius than a guy who kisses the arse of a particular girl or company he likes to get a date and job with them.
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Smug arrogance.. lol cool. I've been called many things by people on here, I'll add that to the list. Biden was clearly joking and Charlamagne didn't even flinch when he said it.. A little late for Republicans to try and jump on the woke bandwagon but I guess that's how it was with gay marriage too. (Although I'm sure there are still plenty who oppose it)

As far as black people leaving the Dem party in droves.. where are they going?? Last poll I saw said Trump at 3%..

Trump? balls? Lol naw.. what he's got plenty of is BS.. And speaking of which yes Drew Brees... Drew bought into the whole "disrespecting our flag/the troops" BS and later apologized for initially being a dumbass. Good for him.

Biden's move indirectly baits Trump into doubling/tripling down in opposing peaceful protests.. and fortunately for the Dems, Trump will never apologize for being a dumbass. There goes that 3%.

"arse"??? Bro are you even American.. ? Who says that???
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If you no longer want to engage me or the topic - Just say so. You posted an entire wall of text implying exactly that.
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If you feel that way, ok.
I guess we're breaking up.
Stay woke.
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1 up, 5y
Exactly.
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People taking a knee when George Floyd was murdered by... a knee on the neck (among other things, I know).

Is that intentional? It's just a weird way to make a tribute.

It's like a 21-gun salute for Ahmaud Arbery, ironically weird.
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True tho
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Leaders also have 4th grade level writing abilities.
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Prayers kneel too
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You are indeed part of the problem
What part of russiia? or are you a bagoolooloo?
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