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DEMOCRATS IN 1939; Just got VaccineID tattooed on my forearm.
It tracks the virus and alerts me
if anyone nearby is infected. Yeah, I might get one too,
I'm hearing good things
from Dr Mengele.
I trust science
on this one. They're taking us to quarantine.
It's for our own good. We must go and stay inside. | image tagged in coronavirus,lockdown | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
388 views 16 upvotes Made by ross09ya 5 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 5y,
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This meme is so out of touch with reality you wonder if they actually believe their own bullshit
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1 up, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
I often wonder why.
0 ups, 5y,
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Says the guy who only votes for people because he doesn’t like the opposition
1 up, 5y,
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You’re right. If a shit sandwich was running against Trump.
0 ups, 5y
You would vote for the sandwich?
2 ups, 5y,
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[image deleted] The Nazi government was trying to kill people. The American government is trying to save peoples' lives. Is that too deep for you?
3 ups, 5y,
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We need to throw our freedom in the trash for a respiratory disease?

This is from England's Chief Medical Officer Chirs Whitty

[T]he great majority of people will not die from this and I’ll just repeat something I said right at the beginning because I think it’s worth reinforcing:

Most people, a significant proportion of people, will not get this virus at all, at any point of the epidemic which is going to go on for a long period of time.

Of those who do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it, they will have the virus with no symptoms at all, asymptomatic carriage, and we know that happens.

Of those who get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80%, will have a mild or moderate disease. Might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to have to go to the doctor.

An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital, but the majority of those will just need oxygen and will then leave hospital.

And then a minority of those will end up having to go to severe end critical care and some of those sadly will die.

But that’s a minority, it’s 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall.

And even in the highest risk group this is significantly less than 20%, ie. the great majority of people, even the very highest groups, if they catch this virus, will not die.

And I really wanted to make that point really clearly…
2 ups, 5y,
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3 ups, 5y,
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Ah no. In areas with high testing its less than 1%. If you average in areas with little or no testing, then you get outrageous numbers like that.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
3 ups, 5y
Look at areas that have high testing and then calculate the death rates:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Keep in mind the deaths are over reported and the cases are under reported.
2 ups, 5y,
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Accepting that these are approximations, the US fatality rate is overall at 5.9%

Arranged from highest to lowest testing, they are currently at:

New York: 5.1%
California: 4.1%
Florida: 4.4%
Texas: 2.8%

All well above 1% as you so claim.

Prof. Chris Whitty is from the UK and their fatality rate is 14.4%.

Fatality rate is calculated {(d)/(c)}x100. You may notice the total populous is not included in this formula but lets take what Whitty said... "An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital... And then a minority of those will end up having to go to severe end critical care and some of those sadly will die. But that’s a minority, it’s 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall."

So even from Whitty's own erroneous estimate, does he calculate from the group of cases to fatality, not population to fatality rate. Now, it's possible he was meaning 1% overall of the entire country and that would be .05% sure... but that's not how fatalities are calculated. Because, if the entire country does gets the virus, then 6-14% of them may die.

So, Whitty is wrong. His opinion, based on the facts, is invalid.
2 ups, 5y,
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Look at the curve from least tested to most tested. The trend is to go down with the more testing. There are a few studies that show less than 1% with widespread testing.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/13/coronavirus-is-covid-19-deadlier-than-we-thought/
At the bottom:
“Some people do become very ill from this virus, but I do not see any evidence that this is substantially worse than the cases reported out of China early in the epidemic,” Luby said. “I still expect the infection fatality ratio to remain less than 1%. I expect that it will be worse than a typical influenza year, but not as bad as the influenza pandemic in 1919.”
According to this: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
There is only a 1.12% change in all deaths from last year to this year. We know they are over reporting the deaths for covid-19. This proves the death rate is closer to 0.1%.
1 up, 5y,
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Dr. Stephen Leby's point is that if there are more people infected, then that lowers the fatality rate. That is still true. I've not dispute that, the problem is that the statistics ARE NOT supporting that theory. So, his opinion is, again, irrelevant. The entire point of the article is that the WHO underestimated the fatality rate as it's twice as high... and explains why their estimates were way off... in short because of the high number of asymptomatic cases. But even then, that's still above 1%. Which the article you linked also says...

“The fact is, we know this is a serious disease. We already know this is more serious than the flu." And "Duong added that “even if the case fatality rate is closer to 1%, that’s actually very high,” noting that seasonal influenza’s fatality rate is about a tenth of that.

Again, I showed you that the most tested ARE GOING UP, not down. The only reason why there is such a fluctuation between coastal urban cities and inner-regional rural areas is proximity to potential infected. Every single thing that has been shown to you and linked by you proves that the fatality rate is above 1%. You may find one scientists out of a hundred, one in three who may make the same claims but if they're not using the numbers, their claims are as good as uninformed opinions and should be treated as such.

Yes, the data can be wrong but the margin of error is 50%... which means the fatality rate is still between 2-7% and 2-7% is still greater than 1%.

You've shown nothing that proves this has a deathrate of 0.1% other than by comparing it to influenza which every scientist will tell you that this is not.
1 up, 5y,
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You studied statistics or something like that?
Your detailed attention to the numbers...
1 up, 5y,
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..can still contain errors and miss entirely relevant variables and factors. It is only for my personal enjoyment. I do not pretend to be an expert.
1 up, 5y,
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Well it was pretty impressive, your analysis there,,,
1 up, 5y
Thank you.
1 up, 5y,
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If you look at the total deaths in the US in 2019 and then compare the deaths in the US for 2020 (with the rest of the year calculated based on estimations), then you end up with an increase of only 1.12% This shows without a doubt that more people are being counted as covid-19 deaths than are actually happening.
According to this: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
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DEMOCRATS IN 1939; Just got VaccineID tattooed on my forearm. It tracks the virus and alerts me if anyone nearby is infected. Yeah, I might get one too, I'm hearing good things from Dr Mengele. I trust science on this one. They're taking us to quarantine. It's for our own good. We must go and stay inside.