to be sure, some of them are. but some are just dopey boneheads doing what dopey boneheads do. i can give them in return whatever they shovel at me, and maybe fourfold as much, but i stop short of hate. boneheads seems a fine label for the trolls here, since they are without exception boneheads. even orangetards is okay since it's more funny than hateful. but 'stupid orangetards' goes a little too far for me. i prefer to observe the hate cycle from the sidelines.