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Trump SJW No | THE FACTS ABOUT CORONAVIRUS; DON'T MATCH WHAT THE MEDIA TOLD ME WOULD HAPPEN | image tagged in trump sjw no | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups, 5y,
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Oh so ya know (Big Fish) | OH, SO YA KNOW THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS ITS EITHER THE MEDIA HAS TO ADMIT THE MODELS THEY PUSHED SAYING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WOULD DIE ARE B | image tagged in oh so ya know big fish | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
5 ups, 5y
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1 up, 5y,
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3 ups, 5y,
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So which is it? Were the models wrong in their initial predictions that 2 million americans would die or are you going to admit by evidence of the updated models that Trump saved those lives?

You can't have it both ways. You can't claim the numbers are accurate when they said 2 million would die, and it was Trump's fault because of his failure to respond, then in the next breath say Trump doesn't get credit for models now saying maybe 60,000 would die.
1 up, 5y,
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Did their predictions take into consideration the possible effect of a single preventative measure? Probably not. Had we treated this as the flu all along and done essentially nothing, it seems likely that the numbers would be considerably higher than they are now. ( 20,000 so far isnt a million but it's also nothing to sneeze at..) If you want to credit Trump for people not treating this like the flu (despite some of his statements and actions), ok.. but expecting the media to apologize for talking about whoever's model that didn't pan out seems highly unlikely... About as unlikely as them giving Trump credit for anything (with the obvious exception of Fox). The media said millions would die in whatever time frame and Trump said it'd be down to zero in a few days. They were both wrong and neither one will apologize.
2 ups, 5y,
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"Did their predictions take into consideration the possible effect of a single preventative measure? Probably not."

That doesn't matter. The projections that were informing policy makers were the model projections that said 2,000,000 americans would die. Those are the same projections the media used to blame Trump for his lack of response. Now that the number has gone down, here you are questioning the models assumptions, when that is what conservatives were doing FROM THE BEGINNING.

You don't get to blame Trump for theoretical future deaths, then not credit him for avoiding theoretical future deaths.

Oh wait, yes you do. You're a liberal.
1 up, 5y,
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So I'm supposed to expect an apology from the media for influencing policy makers and Trump to actually respond so that only 20,000 people have died (so far) instead of 2 million?
2 ups, 5y,
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I'm not saying you should expect anything. I'm saying you need to be intelectualy honest. It's either the Trump managed to avert millions of deaths of the number from the beginning was largely based on flawed data
1 up, 5y,
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2 ups, 5y,
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But the initial models were way far off, and they were the models that were informing policy
1 up, 5y
Besides preventive measures having an effect on the actual numbers, it does seem quite possible that the lack of test kits had a ballooning effect on the predicted numbers.

For example- I hear coronavirus is roughly 2x as contagious as the regular flu. So if the regular flu typically infects 5-20% of America every year, it doesn't seem terribly far-fetched to think that coronavirus could infect 30% .. that's roughly 98,400,000 people. The death rate seems to be roughly 1%, which would mean nearly a million deaths..
However...
when there was less test kits, only older people with the worst symptoms were tested..(and these people were also more likely to die)..which would skew the death rate. So if the death rate was originally 2-3% this could have pushed the death forecast into the 2-3 million range. I'm not sure if this is what happened, I'm just saying it seems possible.
2 ups, 5y
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