Richard Nixon: Comparatively upstanding guy?

Which history? History as it occurred? Or the scrubbed version "Progressives" are trying to produce by their desire to take down civil rights monuments and eliminate founding fathers from coinage and history books?

I can answer that for Kylie here: The leftist revision of history

Go ahead and respond. I'll give you the last word. I'm trying to cut down on this kind of thing. I'm not sure it's good for a guy my age to be debating with people young enough to be my children.

Besides, I have enough experience to know you can't be reasoned with. You're going to have to go through some pride breaking trials like I did when I was a young liberal like you. That's the best way to learn though. You never forget the lesson.

Take care and Happy New Year!

You’re being pretty reasonable this time, except for the re-airing your harebained thesis that it is sensible to draw a straight line between Democratic beliefs on race from 160 years ago to today without applying another heaping serving of criticism toward the Republican Party.

Look: darn near all white people were racist toward blacks back then. Even Lincoln supported slavery as a matter of governmental policy throughout most of the war (freeing slaves only in the Southern States by the Emancipation Proclamation as a political tactic to win the war), and Lincoln personally held the attitude that blacks were inferior. Although Lincoln did more to further black political rights than any President before or since, with the possible exception of LBJ.

Reconstruction was a failure due to southern resistance but also a bipartisan northern willingness to tolerate it.

If Democrats have to answer for the racist attitudes of back then, then Republicans sure do too.

The Civil War was about slavery in the sense that the Confederacy seceded in a misguided effort to preserve it. However, the only thing that got the Union off its butt to fight the Confederacy was the notion that they were traitors to the flag. Which: they were.

. . . and the Democrats are the same Plantation owners they've always been .

Explain that some more. Who’s on the “Democratic plantation”? Don’t chicken out now, spell out clearly what you mean.

Pour a gallon's worth of knowledge into a shotglass sized brain and there's going to be some spillage

"You’re going to need some citations for those sweeping claims there"

You're going to need to learn the definition of sweeping claims. By the way, this Just a friendly reminder. The topic of discussion was comparing Nixon's impeachment to Trump's. Far be it from me to think you were intentionally committing a Red Herring fallacy. You weren't, Were you?

"Civil rights” monuments?"

Nah, I meant civil war.

"I’ve only ever heard about controversies involving Confederate monuments."

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

"Which is fair."

Fair according to what objective standard?

"The Confederacy was a bunch of traitors against the flag."

They sure were. They were also Democrats who started the Klan, Jim Crow segregation laws and fought against every major piece of civil rights legislation - which is precisely why these monuments should stay up. To remind us of the racist past of modern Democrats who want people to forget it.

"We do not need to celebrate these traitors’ “accomplishments” "

You're right, we don't need to celebrate them, but we do need to remember them and how Democrats shifted from enslaving blacks on plantations to enslaving them in modern times in inner-city ghettos.

"160 years later if the public does not want to. "

Why say " public" when it's only "progressives" pushing for this?

"Taking a founder’s face off of a piece of coinage is immaterial. "

Not in regards to preserving our history and heritage it's not. Immaterial according to what objective standard?

"I assume you are talking about Hamilton and the $10."

Yes, that, and the movement to take Andrew Jackson off the $20 and replace it with Harriet Tubman.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-perspec-zorn-tubman-jackson-trump-mnuchin-twenty-20190528-story.html

"Well, that plan was nixed thanks to the popularity of the musical."

It'll be back. Liberals are committed to destroying our history, heritage, and constitution.

"Nobody is going to remove Washington or Lincoln or even Grant."

Not right now they won't. There'd be too much resistance to it, but over time once they erode more freedoms they will. It won't stop them from trying. They'll do some tests to see where the public is at, then be back at it again.

"Removing founders from history books would be troubling if true but I’m not aware of any such plans."

That too was a mistake. I meant mischaracterizing, not removing.

You're too dumb to argue with and don't get me started on Watergate

We have. We sent it to a real prosecutor named Bill Barr.

Eat shit libturd

Still waiting for anything substantial to emerge from that witch-hunt but okay I’ll let Barr do his thing

Ok moron