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The "Appeal-to-authority" fallacy is only availing in certain circumstances. It's not a get-out-of-jail free card.

The "Appeal-to-authority" fallacy is only availing in certain circumstances. It's not a get-out-of-jail free card. | "APPEAL-TO-AUTHORITY FALLACY!"; FOUR MAGIC WORDS THAT GRANT YOU, A FREETHINKER, THE POWER TO IMMEDIATELY DISMISS ANY OUTSIDE VIEWPOINT YOU DISAGREE WITH, ESP. WHEN EXPRESSED BY ANYONE SMARTER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN YOU | image tagged in glinda the good witch,authority,logical fallacy referee,logic,science,global warming | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups, 5y,
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50's newspaper | MOST PEOPLE IN THIS STREAM ARE CONSERVATIVES, THEY THINK YOU'RE WRONG STILL THINK IT'S A FALLACY, BIG GUY???? | image tagged in 50's newspaper | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
3 ups, 5y,
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*not a fallacy
0 ups, 5y,
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Conservatives in the politics stream aren’t great authorities on anything but their own beliefs

Show me one who’s flown spacecraft to Pluto and images it’s surface and I might trust them on planetary issues over NASA
3 ups, 5y,
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When climate scientists stop knowingly use falsified data, I'll reconsider.
0 ups, 5y
I hear this a lot, almost always without citation.

Even if true, it’s not a valid reason to toss out the proven data.

Climate science is not the only scientific field that’s been shown to harbor hucksters and frauds.
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2 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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I never said right about everything

I said a more trustworthy source than anything you guys have offered yet
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1 up, 5y,
1 reply
0 ups, 5y
If! And if they’re right?
1 up, 5y,
1 reply
Gonna defend nazis next? :)
0 ups, 5y
As Timber would likely say: if the rockets flew, then the science was sound, and the current or past political orientation of the scientist is immaterial.
1 up, 5y,
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She's flown to Uranus (see what I did there?), but the boat got stuck due to the oceans boiling away.

Plus she's got the Autisms, so you can trust her expertise.
0 ups, 5y
More Greta cringe!

This is not an argument!
0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
2 ups, 5y,
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No one here shuts down speech, UNLIKE my comments that got deleted and my subs that weren't featured in politicstoo.
0 ups, 5y,
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PolticsTOO has a stated viewpoint. Politics does not.

MODs have their own free speech rights to undertake actions that maintain the viewpoint integrity of their streams

If there wasn’t active modding of PoliticsTOO, it would likely be swamped with trollish content.

There is a small “conservative” stream on ImgFlip and I bet if I posted liberal content there it would be deleted.

I don’t know the specifics of your case but that’s the overall view
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0 ups, 5y,
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It’s not hypocrisy. PoliticsTOO is a stream for liberal viewpoints. Politics is open to all points of view even if conservatives are the majority here.

It’s not hard to understand.
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0 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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It’s the foundational point and you blew past it
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0 ups, 5y,
1 reply
0 ups, 5y
The fact that PoliticsTOO has a stated viewpoint, and the mods don't owe any one particular person a platform in furthering that viewpoint, is absolutely foundational to the point I'm making and negates your charges of hypocrisy.

You don't actually think the concept of "free speech" compels a MOD on a privately owned stream on a privately owned website to feature whatever crap walks in their door, do you?
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0 ups, 5y
I mod the conservatives stream, and as long as you’re not just insulting people or worse, your liberal posts aren’t going to get deleted. We conservatives are pretty big on free speech
0 ups, 5y,
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Or: if I or another liberal started swamping the Firearm_Friendly stream with pro-gun control views
1 up, 5y,
1 reply
They might, that's conjecture tho.
0 ups, 5y
Maybe I should do that as a social experiment

But I’m not really that motivated
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1 up, 5y,
1 reply
1 up, 5y,
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Damn, I didn't even make it down that far lolololol
0 ups, 5y,
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Climate scientists are smarter and more knowledgeable than all of us on this issue

I am the only one here attempting to give their work a platform

You guys are the ones swaggering around acting smarter than them
0 ups, 5y
Yes and CNN is an expert on news because that's their focus :)
1 up, 5y
[image deleted]KylieFan - You've begun to study logic. That's very good. I encourage you to keep going Lookup 'Argument ad populum fallacy '. It's one you commit often when referencing how "the majority of the public says this " or " Most scientists say " that.

I saw you - among other times - commit this fallacy just the other day in a thread where you referenced that most scientists support global warming. I was preparing to reply, but I thought I would cut you some slack. Plus, you've been avoiding responding to my replies anyway, and that's ok. I understand better than you think.

You seem like - generally speaking - you're a nice person, Kylie, but very wrong on many things. I was a liberal before you were born. I used to read books on socialism and Karl Marx and thought the USA should adopt these philosophies. Then on a broader level, I studied history, logic, philosophy, theology, civics, and acquired some life experience. Life experience which you claimed the other day you hold too as a 30 yr old as well.

I'm old enough to be your father and at your age, you've not even scraped the tip of the iceberg. This is not to imply that I have arrived. Acquiring knowledge and wisdom is a journey, not a destination. When you're young it's very easy to acquire an " I have arrived " mentality though.

Also, An appeal to authority fallacy primarily applies when you're appealing to an authority outside the area of expertise of the topic of the discussion you're debating, but also applies if the entire weight of the argument rests on that authority alone, even if inside their area of expertise.

Logic is the tool by which the rational relationship of any given set of propositions within a syllogistic argument is measured. If an argument includes a fallacy, the proposition could still be true, but it's no less the case that you're arguing poorly for your position.

I encourage you to keep studying logic, but it would also be helpful if you could acquire a source of truth and ethics by which to insert into that logical structure, otherwise, pure reason won't do you much good and the premises will be based on subjective and often arbitrary preferences.

You also can't just dismiss a fallacy by vaguely citing that it's only applicable in certain circumstances without presenting the circumstances you're referencing. It makes it look like you're just trying to avoid it's application, and secular progressives are notorious for this.

Happy Memeing !
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0 ups, 5y
Depends on what you source. A liberal probably isn’t going to trust Fox News or the Daily Wire and a conservative isn’t going to trust CNN or the Washington Post.
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