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I think more will come of the IG report. | THE IG SAID LYING TO THE FISA COURT IS NOT A CRIME; BUT YOU LYING TO THE FBI AFTER THEY LIED TO THE FISA COURT TO INVESTIGATE YOU IS A CRIME. | image tagged in memes,philosoraptor | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Ummm... where did Horrowitz say that lying to a FISA court is not a crime?
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If you read the IG report, he listed six times the court was lied to and 17 errors in gathering the information. However, he did not list any criminal referrals.

Now Durham may actually bring criminal charges, but none were in the IG report.
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Are you saying "Withholing information = lying to the FISA court"? I agree with you (if you do), but I doubt Horrorwitz and the democrats see it that way. I'm pretty sure Barr and Durham do though. My money is on them. Horrowitz was a vast disappointment - same as he was when he did the FBI/Clinton Investigation.

ALSO IMO... it seems kind of stupid to have Horrorwitz do this instead of a special counsel. But I digress...
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In legal terms, hiding facts is called "PERJURY BY OMISSION" and is just as criminal as standard perjury. The IG attributes the perjury of the FBI to gross incompetence instead of malfeasance, which is plain bullshit.
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Yeah. The more I watch on this... especially Ted Cruz' interaction with Horrorwitz and the FBI agent who altered an email, and that info passed on to the FISA court, I'm thinking you're right.
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From now on I have to tell law enforcement when they talk to me about anything "I'm sorry I have to plead the fifth. See Roger Stone trial."
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As for being a crime, I think all this boils down to is being under oath (perjury) vs. not under oath.

Even if it can be proven that at some point during the course of an investigation, someone else told a falsehood while not under oath -- or heck, even if they were under oath as well -- that doesn't excuse a person's own duty to not lie while under oath.

Am I missing something here?
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In all 17 instances of "omission" and "non-reporting", evidence that exonerated the ones being spied on (4 total) was left out, which, had this information been put in as required, the investigation would have never continued. 1 or 2 mistakes is bad, but 17, all of which perpetuated an investigation into someone that was demonstrably detested by those doing the investigation, adds up to a collaborative attempt to frame those being looked into. That's what has been alleged now for over two years. The information in the IG report is old, but now it's in one location and laid out for all to see. I seriously doubt anything substantial will come of it. We're asking a broken system to fix itself.
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