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AND GIVE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
IF YOU RESIST, THE GOVERNMENT ARRESTS YOU. SOCIALISM; BUREAUCRATS TAKE YOUR STUFF
AND GIVE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
IF YOU RESIST, THE GOVERNMENT ARRESTS YOU. DEMOCRATIC
SOCIALISM; 51% TAKE YOUR STUFF
AND GIVE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
IF YOU RESIST,
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3 ups, 1y,
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Pretty much.

I always laugh when I see the SNL skit from 2016 that Bernie appeared in.

"What's the difference between socialism and democratic socialism?"

"YUUUGE difference."

No. There is no difference. Having the product of your labor stolen from you is the same, whether it's decided by one person, a small group of people, or 50%+1 of the population.
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2 ups, 1y,
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LOL Not even hiding it. It should be noted Bernie is a much better actor than Larry David.

I've watched Bernies press conference following his return from 'Honeymoon in USSR' in '88. He seemed impressed with 93% corporate tax and Russians telling him: 'they're not sure if they wanted millionaires in society'.

I actually took that press conference and cross edited with Yuri Bezmenov describing KGBs tactics used to brainwash foreign diplomats when they visited Moscow. SOP from KGB and Bernie ate it all up. If you're interested and have 28mins I'll send you a link.
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2 ups, 1y,
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Is it on Youtube? This is not surprising. The communists were so incredibly effective at brainwashing people. And why would they "not want millionaires in society"? (except THEM, of course!)

Because money gives you freedom, control over your life and choices.

We cannot have that. The government is your mommy. The government is your daddy. Shut up and OBEY if you know what's good for you!

(Meanwhile, of course, we'll live in fabulous luxury.)

It's as old as people.
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1 up, 1y
Yes. In the very beginning before lights go out, I included some dark humor to illustrate joys of life in socialism. Don't get thrown off by it. It's only a minute or so. I used channel surfing as a form of editing. Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/G-GTaT9JbqU
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1 up, 1y,
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Is there any form of government that won't arrest you if you don't pay your taxes?
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2 ups, 1y,
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He said "resist", not "don't pay." There IS a difference, and it's foundational.
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0 ups, 1y
Patrick "I Don't Get It" | I DON'T GET IT. | image tagged in patrick i don't get it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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0 ups, 1y,
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0 ups, 1y,
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Oh yeah, I'm so "crushed" because I used the words "don't pay" instead of resist. The meme is a bullshit argument, because no form of government will let you "resist" paying your taxes. If you don't believe me, go ahead a try it.
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3 ups, 1y,
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And that is why, my friend, you are a Leftist: "no form of government will let you"

You think in terms of the government "letting" you do...well, pretty much anything. To you and the rest of the Left, the government is your ruler, to which you are virtually helpless to do anything but shut up and obey.

And, in most of the world, and for most of human history, that is very true.

But that isn't what the Founders set up HERE. HERE, in principle, the PEOPLE rule and the government does what the PEOPLE tell them. Unfortunately, in the wild sexual lust for power and control that is human nature, the PEOPLE have largely forgotten this, and instead look to the government as mommy and daddy.

It's a frame of mind that used to be taught in school. No more (because the people thinking for themselves is bad and reduces my opportunity for power.)
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2 ups, 1y,
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fair point, but I think the people want certain services from the government.
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1 up, 1y
But those services are performed at a much lower level of quality and efficiency, because that's what you get with a monopoly...and there's no greater monopoly that has ever existed than a government.

I want people to be free to choose their own destinies...but that means responsibility and discipline, and those things are difficult and scary for most people (including me.) To the extent that the government "takes care" of us is the extent to which we are willing slaves.

It's a terrible way to live. :(
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3 ups, 1y,
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Don't flatter yourself jokester, this a'int about you. I've enjoyed watching Timber1972 lacing into you leftists for awhile now and wanted to pay tribute to the man.
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1 up, 1y
fair enough, I actually find him entertaining myself, even when in complete disagreement.
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1 up, 1y
Anarchy, I think?
I dunno. I was just about to ask the same question, actually.
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0 ups, 1y
jokester1 is a joke.
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0 ups, 1y
Hey guys, don't bother doing research. Trust the captioned image factory
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1 up, 1y,
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Democratic socialism: 51% take your stuff and keep it. If you resist,....
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2 ups, 1y
You are absolutely correct. They consider themselves "other people".

Chinese peasants have figured it out, whole our leftist can't.
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0 ups, 1y
that's a lie and most of you don't have much to take
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1 up, 1y,
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Monarchy: the nobility takes your stuff and give it to other people. If you resist, the government arrests you.

Republic: the mercantile class takes your stuff and gives it to other people. If you resist, the government arrests you.

Libertarianism: the invisible hand of the maket takes your stuff and gives it to other people. If you resist, the government arrests you.

Taxation is an issue in ALL governments, genius.
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4 ups, 1y
Economic illiteracy is a crime.
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3 ups, 1y,
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If we got rid of income tax and just put in a very high sales and luxury tax not only would the money be worth more because by buying more stuff you're improving the worth of the US dollar, but these two also the only moral forms of taxation because it's consensual. The money would allow most things to go private and allow more people to afford private services because they aren't being robbed of half their income while the government would be able to fund things that should be government provided like police and the such because free trade that would give the government more cash would be encouraged by this free movement of the private sector.
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2 ups, 1y,
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Agree. It's been over a decade since I've seen 'America: Freedom to Fascism', but from what I recall, Aaron Russo (suicided) addresses the IRS federal income tax laws, or lack of it. The only law that exists is state tax which states that 'if you file federal tax, you must file state'. But there is no actual law and IRS/courts refuse to point to it in its code. From what they discuss is income cannot be taxed because it is a trade of service. The only tax law they point out is for corporate tax.
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3 ups, 1y,
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No 100% idea if it's true or not, but when I was in high school (in Canada, so I have no dog in the race), we were taught that American income tax is technically illegal. It was introduced as a temporary measure during wartime.

It was supposed to end after WW1 (I think), but they liked the money too much and kept it going, even though it has not, to this date, ever been fully ratified in congress.
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2 ups, 1y
Very interesting,.. I like hearing 'outsiders' points of view. You get yourself a handfull of these and you have a more complete picture of the situation... I'll go back to that film which supports your Canadian perspective,.. I remember ex-IRS workers claiming there is no law within the code to legally tax personal income as they claimed it was a trade of service which cannot be taxed. They also brought up couple of examples of court cases being thrown out the moment jury asked prosecutor or judge (to anger of both) to show them exactly what law(s) the defendants broke. They couldn't.
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2 ups, 1y,
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39 people found on the back of the lorry in the UK last Friday. Families said they have paid smugglers £30,000 for "a chance at a better life". It must have made a difference for them who they pay their taxes to.

But what do they know, or anyone else who lived in socialist/communist country, our demoralized leftist professors at the university disagree.

I have NEVER heard of anyone escaping capitalism. LOL

BTW, you're like an alter-ego of that man-bitch octavia pumped full of marxist cum.
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0 ups, 1y,
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yes they have and they will again. you are very mistaken in all of your mythical views
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1 up, 1y,
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You're free to move to a socialist country and see for yourself, but don't f**k this one up just in case you change your mind and have no place to run to.
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0 ups, 1y,
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there are different types of socialism and the only way to fully remove the patriarchal cult trying to keep society down is with some socialism and getting rid of capitalism
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1 up, 1y,
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Yes, different kinds, all stripping you of rights for greater good. Greater good only those on top get to experience. By then it is too late for you to object - thats what goolags are for.

Question: Do you respect peoples safe space?
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0 ups, 1y,
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that's what is happening now and the gangsters have taken over and as the news has been showing clear evidence of the face that most wealthy as well as poor males make most of their incomes off of sex trafficking women and girls. This can't continue in our nation and it's just one of many examples of the humanity our nation has had to be shamed with
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1 up, 1y
You didn't answer my question.

IF you continue not answering and jumping from one topic to another - I will end this discussion. I've noticed allot of this is going on in these forums and I refuse to entertain this.

Sex trafficking happens everywhere in the world, North America, South America, Asia, Africa, Middle East, it is not specific to countries, race or political structure. But to attribute sex trafficking to capitalism, it ignorant at best.

You say: "the news has been showing clear evidence of the face that most wealthy as well as poor males make most of their incomes off of sex trafficking women and girls." That is an absurd statement. You've been brainwashed is you honestly believe that.

Gangsters have taken over what exactly? What gangsters?

(don't forget you owe me an answer)
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0 ups, 1y,
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you need to check your motives for why your are believing what you think is true because that's not correct.
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1 up, 1y
there's my motive
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1 up, 1y,
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Actually, there are countries that don’t even have taxation, like Monaco, little commie boy.
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0 ups, 1y,
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Monaco: your retail store merchant takes your stuff and gives it to other people. If you resist, the government arrests you.

A consumption tax is still a tax and I'm not sure why you would think it isn't.
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1 up, 1y
What antithesis wants: Government seizing all private property and assets. Turning America communist.
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