Laughing Men In Suits

How dare a democrat be held account for their actions as VP? Anyone who wants to be above the law only needs a dad running for president cuz you can't investigate him or treeeeeeeeeasooooonnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So investigate. Bring it on. Optics are certainly bad but from all legitimate accounts, this is a nothing burger.

There is nothing stopping an investigation. Do it or shut up. Bottom line, but, but, but, does nothing to make the current president innocent.

A nothing burger, yet Trump should be impeached for less. That's the hypocrisy.

How is it less? That's the most laughablel thing about this whole situation. You've got your panties in a knot over Biden, demanding he be prosecuted under a false premise and we've got Trump with actual proof that he committed nearly the identical thing! But, but, but, Biden! It's a joke.

Identical thing? Hardly. Biden threatened to withhold a billion dollars. Please explain the quid pro quo with Trump. There was none. A BILLION DOLLARS. Hello? How would you feel if Don Trump jr was working for a Russian oligarchy? You be crying 24/7. Every single day.

Are you forgetting the 400 million Trump was withholding?

Are you forgetting that the very prosecutor Biden demanded fired, was the same dude that found nothing on his son? Biden had more to lose by getting rid of the guy and getting a real prosecutor in his place.

“the very prosecutor Biden demanded fired, was the same dude that found nothing on his son” . . . Yet

Yet what?

If a real prosecutor was hired and Biden had something to hide, wouldn't that be a bad thing?

This entire conversation regarding Biden means nothing. It does nothing to discount Trumps actions enlisting the help of a foreign nation to dig up dirt on an opponent. THAT is what is happening today. Not 5yrs ago.

No, that’s just the spin the Dems and MSM put on it. The real story is the Biden crime, but of course, the media chooses to ignore that because they’re all in on the “impeach Trump” bandwagon.

Even if Trump is guilty of a crime, the Dems have cried Wolf for so long the general population is sick of it. The majority of Americans don’t think he should be impeached and we know that the Dems’ motivation has nothing to do with preserving the constitution. They just want to interferer with the 2020 election since the Russian collusion scam failed to overturn the 2016 election like they planned. If you can’t see that, then you’re blind.

OMG. Biden acted in 2015. Were you all in a tizzy over Biden then or might you just be starting to get in a tizzy now, the very moment Trump has been caught doing basically the same thing you're accusing Biden of?

It is you who is diverting. Virtually every news organization and every government who has investigated the issue says there is no story regarding Biden.

Hunter Biden got a lucrative job on the board of directors of a gas company in The Ukraine without any experience and didn’t even speak the language.

Sounds just as fishy as Trump withholding funds a week before the phone call. So, why are YOU in a tizzy over Trump now but not concerned about Biden’s apparent conflict of interest?

For the same reason I'm not in a tizzy over virtually all of Trumps children banking cash all over the planet from every country in the world, off their daddy's Presidency.

This is how things work and if you didn't know that you're extremely naive.

Are you dumb? Do you not watch or pay attention to the timeline of events? Trump withheld funding a week before the phone call. This is known fact dipshit.

Which they didn't know about. Unlike Biden's threat.

And that automatically means he broke the law?
Still speculation.

“THIS ISN'T ABOUT BIDEN.”
Which is exactly what the DNC wants you to think. Play the impeachment card to turn attention away from Biden’s crimes.

How would they NOT know about it? It was all over American news! The question was raised by even Republicans who had wanted it to go through! Gawd you people. THIS ISN'T ABOUT BIDEN.

Federal law prohibits a foreign national from directly or indirectly making a “contribution or donation of money or other thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, and prohibits a person from soliciting, accepting or receiving such a contribution or donation from a foreign national. Federal law defines “contribution” to include “any gift … of money or anything of value made by any person for the purpose of influencing any election for Federal office.” And the FEC by regulation defines “solicit” to mean “to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value.”

Trump asked. Not only did he ask, he withheld 400 million dollars.

Are you blind?

Stick with the facts.

1. 10 counts of obstruction
2. Our President withheld funding meant to stave off an enemy, till this country dug up dirt on Trumps political opponent. When discovered, he released the funding and tried to prevent the release of his plan through methods that were not even legal.

People are sick of the BS around this Presidency. Crying wolf? Hardly. 10 counts of obstruction would have sunk any prior President. Withholding funds for political gain, should sink any President. It's only through diversion of talking points are we still dealing with a corrupt President.

Preserving the Constitution is the only thing that matters here. Not, people are sick of dealing with it.

“10 counts of obstruction” - not convinced of a single count and all the accusations were as a result in the bogus Russian Collusion investigation which didn’t find him guilty of any collusion.

“Withheld funding . . . “ - pure speculation that it was done to force Ukraine to investigate Biden. The Ukraine president even said he wasn’t pressured to investigate.

Got anymore “facts”?

“Sticking with collusion as your name for the investigation is your sad attempt at discounting the entire outcome of the investigation.”
So, if the investigation wasn’t about Trump colluding with Russia, what was it for?

“You're not convinced? Is anyone convinced? No one can be convinced of the 10 counts of obstruction because the house never took them up in an impeachment hearing!”
Because they knew there wasn’t anything worthy of impeachment.

“There is no speculation that Trump withheld nearly 400 million in funding not more than one week prior to his phone call and his, "favor" to the Ukraine.”
You just speculated it right there. Where is your proof? You just want that to be what happened because you want something - anything - to impeach Trump for. The Dems impeachment effort is just looking for a crime. And if they can’t find one, they make one up.

“You honestly think the President of the Ukraine is going to tell the world he was pressured to reopen the investigation into Biden while sitting with the President of the U.S. and still needing millions of dollars from the U.S.?”
So, why hasn’t he said it while he’s not sitting with the president? Oh, yeah that’s one of your “facts” - AKA speculation.

Face it, you and the rest of the “hate Trump” crowd are grasping at straws looking for anything to accuse him of. If congress put half as much effort into running the country as they do complaining about the other side, they’d get so much more done.

Discount, discount, discount. I see what you are doing. Sticking with collusion as your name for the investigation is your sad attempt at discounting the entire outcome of the investigation. Collusion was determined early on as not a crime. It was Trump who continued calling it collusion. Virtually everyone is satisfied with the outcome finding no collusion. Only the right is upset with the ten counts of obstruction and to this day still has the desire to bury it away and discount it under the guise of no collusion.

You're not convinced? Is anyone convinced? No one can be convinced of the 10 counts of obstruction because the house never took them up in an impeachment hearing!

There is no speculation that Trump withheld nearly 400 million in funding not more than one week prior to his phone call and his, "favor" to the Ukraine.

You honestly think the President of the Ukraine is going to tell the world he was pressured to reopen the investigation into Biden while sitting with the President of the U.S. and still needing millions of dollars from the U.S.?

don't be defending those elitist twats.
f**k biden,and his son.
and f**k trump for whining like a bitch after getting caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
f**k em all.

I could give two shits about Biden or his son. The only reason I'm defending is because this is nothing more than a diversion from current events.

Where was all this concern over Biden in 2016? Where?

Get up to date man. Concentrate on the actions of our President. He held back money to a foreign nation that desperately needed it to fight Russia, so that foreign nation would dig up dirt on the Presidents possible opponent in the next election.

Why is it so hard for you guys to stay on topic? Is it too painful for you to admit Trump has done something terribly wrong?

He asked Russia for help, finding Hillary's emails in 2016. IN PUBLIC.
Now he's withholding money to fight Russia and asking a nation to help him win an election again.

CAN"T YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE?

I see people twisting logic till it screams to defend their favorite personality.

yeah,of course this is all a diversion.
just like russiagate was a diversion.
it's what political power does to misdirect the heat.

my issue is the blinders.

I really don't get it.

saw this exact same bullshit during Clinton,bush,obama and now trump.
when I was going after bush,especially at the onset of the Iraq war,i was absolutely vilified by the right and my liberal democrat friends?
nothing...crickets..
when it became apparent that Iraq was a bad idea (no shock from me) those lib dems were suddenly all onboard,and acted like they ALWAYS were against Iraq.
and I was their best friend.
oh they like how I tore into the hyper-nationalist righties..oh yes they did.

and then their dreamy Obama started to rise...and they swooned and swayed.
I tried to tell them he was a corporatist,a neo-lib with strong messaging.
a technocrat.

oh they poo-pooed me...
I didn't know what I was talking about.

and when I went after Obama.
they didn't like that.
not ..one...bit.

and where were they when Obama expanded the drone program and assassinated americans?

well,they were attacking me,doxxing me,sending death threats to me.
because I had the audacity to criticize their hero.
exactly like trumpites defend everything trump does.

so when I say I don't understand why people defend these twats..
I have a history of weak ass,sychophant muppets who only see through the lens of their own bias.

and don't get too comfy with all this impeachment frenzy.
it is practically meaningless,and distracts from the candidates who are trying to get their message out.
Pelosi,and the democratic leadership,has effectively tanked their own chances for a win in 2020.
legally? sure,they have a case.
politically? it is suicide.
and biden is done,not that he had a chance.
so enjoy the show.

I get what you are saying,and I understand.

and you're not alone.
plenty of folks agree with you.
i just like to keep my criticisms honest.(don't always succeed here).

just my .02

I can't stand any politician who can't handle the hard questions. Just watch anyone on the right who is asked the question, "How do you feel about Trump holding back funds from a foreign power till they dig up dirt against his political opponent?"

Two answers will be given.
1. We need to look into Biden and his sons corruption in the Ukraine.
2. All the Dems want is to continue the Russia collusion delusion.

1. This question isn't about Biden or his son.
2. 32 People have been indicted due to the Russian investigation and 10 counts of obstruction listed against our President. Hardly a Russian delusion.

Somehow, this continues. Somehow everyone continues to allow the talking points to get diverted to non-issues. THIS, is the problem. It doesn't matter who is in power. Neither right or left should be allowed to highjack the talking points and divert discussion in this way.