Beto says Planned Parenthood saving lives

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jplowry777
6 ups, 6y
ToneDef
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But at least your Christian conscience is clear right?
jplowry777
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Oh look Anthorian is back with more amazing insight. It's hard being a single parent? No one forced them into pregnancy (please don't cite rape induced pregnancy, this is an incredibly small portion of all pregnancy), sex was a choice. People have to accept the consequences of their actions. The same goes for death of mother's giving birth. The CDC says on average 700 women die every year. So please, can you stop making these ridiculous arguments? Probably not
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Hey moron.  Guess what happens when a mother dies giving birth, single parenthood unless the father dumps the child too.  How about you provide a smartass remark about that.

So you’re saying women have to accept the consequences of death through childbirth if it comes to that because they had sex?  Even those with the intent to have a child in the first place?

And I love how you failed to mention anything about foster homes.  No smartass remark regarding abandoned kids but a witless joke about terminal pregnant mothers?  Real cool, bro
jplowry777
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700 a year die, stop acting like that is a huge number. Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood aborts more than 300,000 lives a year.

Yes, people should accept the consequences of sex, meaning pregnancy, even if they weren't intending to have a child. Thats the point of being an adult. It's called accountability for ones actions. 

Here you go again with inventing a false argument regarding foster homes. No one said they are awesome, you invented this out of thin air. Yes life in a foster home is hard, but go ask the kids if they would rather be in a foster home and living or dead.
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You made the remarks to my meme but didn’t go into all parts of it.  I made my meme with sarcasm intended.  I know nobody would really talk about the joys of single parenthood, terminal pregnancy or “awesome” foster homes.  But since you wanted to reply with your oh so utterly sarcastic remarks I figure you should have the chance to make jokes at everything.

700 a year die and that’s no big deal?  Maybe it’s not a big deal to you.  Tell that to a family that goes through it.  Your mindset on that is inconsiderate.  There’s a difference in taking accountability and having an unexpected variable thrown into your life to where you have to make a choice between your life or another with a rather abrupt time limit.  I hope no one close to you ever has to make that kind of choice.  It is indeed very painful either way.
jplowry777
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"an unexpected variable"...no, it's very expected that the outcome of sex is child birth. Any notion to the contrary is just idiocy perched upon a mountain of ignorance.
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Perhaps I should have been more clear.

The unexpected variable is not pregnancy.  Unexpected variables happen DURING pregnancy and that’s when a hard choice has to be made.  I suppose another, more proper term would be complications of pregnancy.

Could you really, with a straight face, tell a family that goes through complications of pregnancy and are left with this choice that the mother should just die?
jplowry777
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Again you are taking an incredibly small number of pregnancies weighed against the overwhelming majority of pregnancies to justify a procedure that ends over 300,000 lives per year. This is not an honest argument at all. 

In fact, it's lunacy.
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Nice avoiding the question to throw your pro-life statistics that you already mentioned at me again.
jplowry777
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I'm not avoiding any question, I'm pointing out the dishonesty inherent in the question. 

Should procedures be available for life saving purposes? Yes, but that doesn't justify the need for publicly funded execution of children by adults who were not in such circumstances, and where the probability of being is such circumstances is remote at best.
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There is no dishonesty.  It was a legitimate question that you still haven’t answered.

Fortunately for women, you don’t get a say over abortion regardless.
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enochthewatcher
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Abortion consists of 94% of the prenatal/adoption services they do.

It all depends on how statistics are interpreted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/08/12/for-planned-parenthood-abortion-stats-3-percent-and-94-percent-are-both-misleading/?utm_term=.96aace7442b3
jplowry777
1 up, 6y
Planned Parenthood's own statements show more than 300,000 abortions annually. This comparisons of "x% out of so many procedures" is used to camoflauge just how many abortions that are performed each year.
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enochthewatcher
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and mnpix posted a wapo article that challenged the planned parenthood numbers,which is fair play (couldn't read the article due to $$)

in my opinion,the underlying problem is the politicization.

planned parenthood offers more services to women then just abortion.maybe the % is higher than claimed,maybe it is not,but that is not my main point.the % is actually irrelevant.the services they offer to the poor,working poor and vulnerable women,however..are.

we can take the gun control argument and apply the same metric:

if you ban guns,this will not stop criminals from purchasing and using guns for their criminal enterprise.

this is a valid criticism of gun banning advocates.

if you ban all abortions,this will not stop women from seeking out abortions.

this too,is a valid criticism of anti-abortion advocates.

the % is just a canard to inject into the debate to muddy the waters from the very obvious truth we can all see.it is a political bullwhip to appeal to emotion,and actually has very little to do with the underlying discussion.
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Beto says that Planned Parenthood is saving lives; by performing over 900 abortions per day