Putin still owns you!

and I am not talking about the "russiagate".
I am talking about:
1.trumps expanding NATO troops in the Russian border
2.trumps continued military presence in Syria
3.threatening merkel with sanctions if germany continues to work with Russia on the gas pipeline
4.regime change in Venezuela (ok,this one tickles me,because of US sanctions,we now buy oil from Russia LOL)
5.sending US arms to the Ukraine.

I mean,seriously,all these things are Russian interests.
are you really trying to tell us that this is all a ruse to cover up some underlying conspiracy to comply with a secret agreement between putin and trump?

because that would be Olympic level leap of mental gymnastics.

Well, how does this debunk his claim in his meme? Just curious.

to look at it any other way is to wade into seriously speculative waters,and then twist logic until it screams.

if we were to take this meme as being factual,we then would have to surmise that trump is boldly and brazenly challenging Russia's vital interests at the behest of the kremlin.

and THEN...and here is where it starts to fall apart (my opinion)...we then have to ask:
quid pro quo
HOW would challenging Russian interests somehow be in favor of Russian interests?

do you see the dilemma?
the whole Russian conspiracy falls apart.

trump is part of the criminal class,and I am sure he has plenty of skeletons in his closet.
but the "russiagate" conspiracy does not hold up well under scrutiny.

Say what you want. But I think that Putin is trying to slowly destroy the U.S. from the inside.

Honestly, I'm having some trouble understanding you.

I am not making the case that Russia does not engage in swaying public opinion in america.
America has a long history of doing the same.
what I am specifically pointing to is that the narrative that trump is "putins puppet" falls apart with even the most tacit scrutiny.

you can disagree,and that is perfectly fine,but the logic is sound.
maybe share your perspective?
maybe I am missing something,it is not like I am a super hero and can see all facets of a situation.

I believe that Trump allied with Russia to rig the 2016 election.

I also believe that Russia's IRA is mostly responsible for this huge political devide that's been going on for the past few years. They did it by using bots and shills.

And if Putin is really trying to destroy the U.S. from the inside, it's no wonder that Putin and his IRA would help Trump become president. They knew he would suck! They knew Trump's an idiot!

Trump is most likely unaware of the fact he's being used.

1.I believe that Trump allied with Russia to rig the 2016 election.

mueller would disagree,and considering his biggest indictments in regards to election meddling was 14 Russian clickbaiters that amounted to pretty much nothing.

2.I also believe that Russia's IRA is mostly responsible for this huge political devide that's been going on for the past few years. They did it by using bots and shills.

ok,this has some veracity to it,but to the actual extent? that is not easily quantifiable,but I agree that it does exist.in my opinion it has been the corporate media that has far more culpability in America's current great division.just my .02

3.And if Putin is really trying to destroy the U.S. from the inside, it's no wonder that Putin and his IRA would help Trump become president. They knew he would suck! They knew Trump's an idiot!

this is pure speculation,and really has no evidence to back it up even slightly.

4.Trump is most likely unaware of the fact he's being used.

trump is not a smart man,though he certainly believes he is.

ah my friend,i have been challenging and giving pushback on the whole "russiagate" for over two years.my liberal,lefty democrat buddies did not take kindly to me shitting on their favorite conspiracy theory.
I have been called "putin puppet",a "useful idiot",a "retarded closet cuckservative" (even though they knew I was not really a conservative).

lost a lot of friends over the past two years,and why? because I demanded evidence.that's it..simply asking for evidence and not innuendo and speculation was enough for these people to attack me viciously.

how many of them have stepped forward to apologize to me?
not one,in fact they have been going out of their way to avoid me.
which only signals to me that they were far more invested in being right,than recognizing the truth.

and the truth is this:
this democratic induced witchhunt was perpetrated by the democrats because they were unwilling to autopsy their own shit candidate,who ran a shit campaign,who played dirty politics by rigging the primaries (and got CAUGHT doing it),

lost to a vulgar,obnxious reality TV star.
and that was unacceptable.
so they wasted this countries time by focusing on a bullshit conspiracy instead of focusing on actual,important issues,and the corporate media was COMPLICIT and assisted in the DECEPTION.

You do realize you're the one doing Putin's bidding, right? Trump came out clear after a 2 year investigation yet you still cling to the collusion delusion. I know it's tough moving on after so much investment in a conspiracy theory but still...

Heh, no. I think the Russia investigation has tainted Trump's presidency that such Jokes as how Putin owns Trump will remain. Just like Dronebama Jokes remain. Get it Drone obama? Because... yeah I'll show myself out

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Point taken.

The whole thing was a deflection , Obama and Clinton did more for Russia and are still being paid for it